federalizing the army

[Ferrari]

So far all types of niggas like gorgor, harmacad, danab and more have been trained, they are yet to take a single town from AS?
it ain't adding up.
all these soldiers have been politicized by farmaajo. They are supposed to be apolitical, outsider entity beholden and affiliated with no one, yet these guys are like farmaajo's attack dogs. When he leaves, they'll serve the same purpose for the next president. It's impossible for them to be fair to everyone when they're serving one guy.
This issue has to be fixed if federalists maamuls wanna survive.

They should disband the so called SNA into their respective maamuls, and give most of the control to that maamul, with advisory role from presidents.
else change the damn constitution, and make it illegal for the president to be the commander in chief, he should have zero influence on army generals.

if not, we'll be here every four years, unless the states can recruit more and more of their own soldiers to make sure they are ready should assholes like farmaajo attempt to invade them.

 

[DR OSMAN]

So far all types of niggas like gorgor, harmacad, danab and more have been trained, they are yet to take a single town from AS?
it ain't adding up.
all these soldiers have been politicized by farmaajo. They are supposed to be apolitical, outsider entity beholden and affiliated with no one, yet these guys are like farmaajo's attack dogs. When he leaves, they'll serve the same purpose for the next president. It's impossible for them to be fair to everyone when they're serving one guy.
This issue has to be fixed if federalists maamuls wanna survive.

They should disband the so called SNA into their respective maamuls, and give most of the control to that maamul, with advisory role from presidents.
else change the damn constitution, and make it illegal for the president to be the commander in chief, he should have zero influence on army generals.

if not, we'll be here every four years, unless the states can recruit more and more of their own soldiers to make sure they are ready should assholes like farmaajo attempt to invade them.

The federal president n pm is already in a check mate with their powers. The PM for example is named by the president, needs to keep parliament satisfid for 4 years which is unlikely, where-as president is check mated by having to run for elections each 4 years.

So the federal president/pm positions are configured in a way to ensure political instability thru 'foreign or regional' meddling especially in the affairs of the PM but they also meddle on the president when his time is up every 4 years.

Somali Federal govt is nothing like PL/JL with full powers given to president, qof awoooda la qaybsanayo ma jiro. PL and JL have full presidential system, but this isn't the case for hamar, both president/pm share the role with day to day management given to the PM and the president given authority over soldiers only.

This means the president is safe for 4 years before the 'vultures' in the 'region' strike to replace him thru 'coalition' vs presidential race like we saw in HSM/SHARIF disposal, the PM has the most power in terms of managing the govt day to day but his on 'suicide watch' constantly trying to ensure there isn't an uprising in parliament as he has to report to it constantly. 4 years of watching his back for all that 'day to day management' of govt is to much check n balances on Somalia government.

 

[Ferrari]

The federal president n pm is already in a check mate with their powers. The PM for example is named by the president, needs to keep parliament satisfid for 4 years which is unlikely, where-as president is check mated by having to run for elections each 4 years.

So the federal president/pm positions are configured in a way to ensure political instability thru 'foreign or regional' meddling especially in the affairs of the PM but they also meddle on the president when his time is up every 4 years.

Somali Federal govt is nothing like PL/JL with full powers given to president, qof awoooda la qaybsanayo ma jiro. PL and JL have full presidential system, but this isn't the case for hamar, both president/pm share the role with day to day management given to the PM and the president given authority over soldiers only.

the PM position is hardly a check on the president since the president can appoint and fire whoever he wants as PM.
Something has to be done to limit the power of a president.

if farmaajo wasn't allowed to have a direct control of harmacad, gorgor and danab, he wouldn't be sitting here today a whole month after his mandate was over.

reduce that fucking seat to a ceremonial one.

 

[codewebsduh]

Ljes again they have taken plenty of towns and villages. Al-shabab mainly is hit and run in their tactics. The goal is to secure all roads to the city.

 

[Ferrari]

Ljes again they have taken plenty of towns and villages. Al-shabab mainly is hit and run in their tactics. The goal is to secure all roads to the city.

they haven't taken shit. they can barely control xamar.

 

[DR OSMAN]

the PM position is hardly a check on the president since the president can appoint and fire whoever he wants as PM.
Something has to be done to limit the power of a president.

if farmaajo wasn't allowed to have a direct control of harmacad, gorgor and danab, he wouldn't be sitting here today a whole month after his mandate was over.

reduce that fucking seat to a ceremonial one.

You don't wanna fire your PM to quick, it breaks the alliance you formed in parliament and once u break your alliance in parliament, it turns into a shit-fest for the president, that's why farmajo is so hard to move in comparison to abgaal dummies of sharif-hsm who would replace pm after pm and shuffle thru so many different alliances in the end all the alliances they formed basically said 'screw you' in the end because waxay arkeen inuusan kalsooni keeni karin after shuffling thru all the PM like that.

But the PM needs a strong check mate, he manages the whole government weekly, all those ministers report to the PM not the president.

The president is shitty role in terms of power is weak and his only saving grace is naming the PM spot which isn't a nice role to have as the president has to watch parliament and the ever forming alliances inside of it and select the strongest camp within it and trade them of for 'pm spot' which then means that alliance controls all minister spots which goes to their alliance in parliament. PM can be sneaky and 'set up his own personal alliance' for minister 'swaps' by ensuring parliament doesn't give a no confidence.

That's why somalia govt is always unstable, to many interests and politicians and power isn't concentrated anywhere be it president or pm and parliament has check n balance role on both positions, more-so the PM but also the president every 4 years. I am just glad PL/JL didn't divide president/vp spot power or else u would see political instability also as each leader danahisa buu ilashanaya.

 

[Ferrari]

You don't wanna fire your PM to quick, it breaks the alliance you formed in parliament and once u break your alliance in parliament, it turns into a shit-fest for the president, that's why farmajo is so hard to move in comparison to abgaal dummies of sharif-hsm who would replace pm after pm and shuffle thru so many different alliances in the end all the alliances they formed basically said 'screw you' in the end because waxay arkeen inuusan kalsooni keeni karin after shuffling thru all the PM like that.

But the PM needs a strong check mate, he manages the whole government weekly, all those ministers report to the PM not the president.

The president is shitty role in terms of power is weak and his only saving grace is naming the PM spot which isn't a nice role to have as the president has to watch parliament and the ever forming alliances inside of it and select the strongest camp within it and trade them of for 'pm spot' which then means that alliance controls all minister spots which goes to their alliance in parliament. PM can be sneaky and 'set up his own personal alliance' for minister 'swaps' by ensuring parliament doesn't give a no confidence.

That's why somalia govt is always unstable, to many interests and politicians and power isn't concentrated anywhere be it president or pm and parliament has check n balance role on both positions, more-so the PM but also the president every 4 years. I am just glad PL/JL didn't divide president/vp spot power or else u would see political instability also as each leader danahisa buu ilashanaya.

I think you're missing the point. Look at Rooble now, he's a hostage, he can't do shit unless farmaggio approves it. same with khayre, and once khayre stepped outta line, he got dropped in 7 minutes because the parliament was already in farmaajo's pocket.

there's gotta be a way to keep these power separate, and to keep a president from subverting every single entity of power.

 

[Murax]

I don’t think Al Shaydaans defeat at this point is about military defeat anymore. Aside from M Jubba, parts of L Jubba, they have been ran out of everywhere else.

The Dawlad needs to use counter insurgency winning the hearts, and minds strategy. The Somali Bantu community in M Jubba, L Jubba are diehard Al Shaydaan as they are told ‘You have zero rights with any Somali Gov’. Sadly that isn’t a lie. They either need to be integrated into Somali society once and for all, or sent away somewhere.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

I don’t think Al Shaydaans defeat at this point is about military defeat anymore. Aside from M Jubba, parts of L Jubba, they have been ran out of everywhere else.

The Dawlad needs to use counter insurgency winning the hearts, and minds strategy. The Somali Bantu community in M Jubba, L Jubba are diehard Al Shaydaan as they are told ‘You have zero rights with any Somali Gov’. Sadly that isn’t a lie. They either need to be integrated into Somali society once and for all, or sent away somewhere.

Why are your kins getting promoted in xamar?

Halganmedia.net

 

[Ismail99]

I don’t think Al Shaydaans defeat at this point is about military defeat anymore. Aside from M Jubba, parts of L Jubba, they have been ran out of everywhere else.

The Dawlad needs to use counter insurgency winning the hearts, and minds strategy. The Somali Bantu community in M Jubba, L Jubba are diehard Al Shaydaan as they are told ‘You have zero rights with any Somali Gov’. Sadly that isn’t a lie. They either need to be integrated into Somali society once and for all, or sent away somewhere.

Waraa they're somalis just like you, their land is Somalia and they ain't going anywhere
If you know the problem why not change it? 4.5 waa dullinimo

 

[DR OSMAN]

I think you're missing the point. Look at Rooble now, he's a hostage, he can't do shit unless farmaggio approves it. same with khayre, and once khayre stepped outta line, he got dropped in 7 minutes because the parliament was already in farmaajo's pocket.

there's gotta be a way to keep these power separate, and to keep a president from subverting every single entity of power.

Do u even know how this parliament works? The PM to be named must come outside parliament but not the 'ministers', they all bring a PM candidate the alliances inside parliament be it at the odayaal level-hisbiyo islameed-qabiil alliances. Once they get their PM named, it means that alliance has won all ministry spots also since one of their selection for PM was selected by the president.

The president of the day will only give a few 'requirements' for PM selection to odayasha and hisbiyo on what 'tasks' he promised to do. It's odayasha of the other clan that matters the most and their regional government.

So if Hawiye wins president, odayasha and regional govt of puntland/jubbaland matters in selecting the PM, so all the alliances in parliament are technically fighting for minister positions but they can't get their minister positions without ensuring they get the PM positions. This is when odayaasha/regional govt become crucial as the largest alliance in parliament will usually decide what the odayaal-regional govt select for PM. They will pass this recommendation to the president who will usually 'tow the line'.

The only difference in this election was 'hiraab' ayaa kala qaybsana and this gave farmajo the chance to select 'khayre' who wouldn't see that position if it wasn't for hiraab miscalculation, knowing full well that farmajo preferred a 'seedi' in office and these hiraabs still couldn't put aside their beef. That's why I hate 'hiraab' they act united online and in public, lakin marki wax la cunayo, iyaga is dilayo first, their unity is fake and farmajo beat them by naming karanle relative of his wife kkkkkkkkkkk

 

[DR OSMAN]

Waraa they're somalis just like you, their land is Somalia and they ain't going anywhere
If you know the problem why not change it? 4.5 waa dullinimo

Why is it you love playing the 'saving grace' role of 'somali', it's like your clan makes calculated choices by playing the 'messiah role' of dadka 'dulman' kkkkkkkkk. U do this among hawiye, .5 clans, ma waxad is lee dahay kursi ku 'gaar' kkkkkkkk u nacas duli sade we know your tactics, so stop insulting us by using it constantly, marki arintada la ogaaday inaad weli si cayaartid gamekasi wa ceeb

 

[Ismail99]

Why is it you love playing the 'saving grace' role of 'somali', it's like your clan makes calculated choices by playing the 'messiah role' of dadka 'dulman' kkkkkkkkk. U do this among hawiye, .5 clans, ma waxad is lee dahay kursi ku 'gaar' kkkkkkkk u nacas duli sade we know your tactics, so stop insulting us by using it constantly, marki arintada la ogaaday inaad weli si cayaartid gamekasi wa ceeb

I have told you 100 times I'm OG waxyahoow madaxaadag

 

[codewebsduh]

they haven't taken shit. they can barely control xamar.

Xamar has been controlled for the last 10 years. Assisinations/Truck bombing are heavily reliant on the national intelligence agency not the trained troops.

Gorgor/Danab have been working together to mainly attack Al-Shabab at it's heart. Here are some attacks they have undertaken with Amisom:

What liberation of Janaale by SNA troops from Al-Shabaab means to Somalia

www.garoweonline.com

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

Xamar has been controlled for the last 10 years. Assisinations/Truck bombing are heavily reliant on the national intelligence agency not the trained troops.

Gorgor/Danab have been working together to mainly attack Al-Shabab at it's heart. Here are some attacks they have undertaken with Amisom:

What liberation of Janaale by SNA troops from Al-Shabaab means to Somalia

www.garoweonline.com

Capturing is east because US peovide air cover but maintaining is hard because US is not on the ground.

 

[Jiron]

SNA is above qabiil and politics, they are there to serve the nation. Let us trust our troops and not cast doubt on their purpose

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

SNA is above qabiil and politics, they are there to serve the nation. Let us trust our troops and not cast doubt on their purpose

Sna is qabil just look at their background its not even 4.5 based.

 

[Jiron]

Sna is qabil just look at their background its not even 4.5 based.

They’re not there to serve qabiils but to protect the country. We have to respect the young men who are sacrificing their lives for the future of our children

 

[GemState]

I think you're missing the point. Look at Rooble now, he's a hostage, he can't do shit unless farmaggio approves it. same with khayre, and once khayre stepped outta line, he got dropped in 7 minutes because the parliament was already in farmaajo's pocket.

there's gotta be a way to keep these power separate, and to keep a president from subverting every single entity of power.

Either get rid of the Presidency and just have a PM, or get rid of the PM and have the President as head of state and government. Too much time is wasted with disputes between the 2

In Somalia right now the Presidency is meant to be symbolic with the PM being the actual head of government, but it never works out like that.

 

[codewebsduh]

@Ferrari NISA have stopped countless attacks however Al-Shabab is focused on a covert operation. By pushing down into lower shabelle we and securing the roads Al-Shabab's VBIEDS are being halted and key leaders are in hiding.

I estimate over the next 6 years the military will simultaneously increase their military strength and strengthen areas already held by FGS. Here is a map of Somalia (debatable) from 2017 to 2020

As you can see over the three years there has been a continuous reduction of Al-Shabab control. For instance Lower Jubba cities went from being competed to nearly completely under FGS control.

The power of Al-shabab in the cities they already have has also been heavily reduced. SNA has taken over Leego which had cut of Al-shababs military connection in the El-Ali bubble.

Galmudug bubble is not as strong as the lower regions thus the SNA has been focusing on the lower shabelle region. However the Al-Shabab bubble has been reduced through a small SNA presence.

Recently the FGS (2020-2021) has begun pushing into Kurtunwarey and Tortorow edge of the large Bay region Al-shabab bubble. Over the next 5 years as the military will push deeper into lower shabelle region which is the bread basket of Al-Shabab.

The march to victory is slow but is moving onwards.