War amuus. That still makes E-V32 the landheer Y-DNA of Somaliweyn. Don't get all technical and point out that we are in reality an amalgamation of several more langaab E-Z813 subclades.
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War amuus. That still makes E-V32 the landheer Y-DNA of Somaliweyn. Don't get all technical and point out that we are in reality an amalgamation of several more langaab E-Z813 subclades.
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War amuus. That still makes E-V32 the landheer Y-DNA of Somaliweyn. Don't get all technical and point out that we are in reality an amalgamation of several more langaab E-Z813 subclades.
I only consider sub-1,000 year old lineages to be real clans as that was in the Middle Ages with some semblance of modernity.
That common E-Y18629 lineage emerged in the Bronze Age when Somalis were even more primitive,
.While Sir E-Y163949 saw books in his life, probably saw foreign traders, likely was aware of foreign continents/places, and likely was literate. E-Y18629 was likely some illiterate backwards pagan nomad,
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Guri ba Allah ka dhig e-y163949 is langaabI only consider sub-1,000 year old lineages to be real clans as that was in the Middle Ages with some semblance of modernity.
That common E-Y18629 lineage emerged in the Bronze Age when Somalis were even more primitive,
While Sir E-Y163949 saw books in his life, probably saw foreign traders, likely was aware of foreign continents/places, and likely was literate. E-Y18629 was likely some illiterate backwards pagan nomad,
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I only consider sub-1,000 year old lineages to be real clans as that was in the Middle Ages with some semblance of modernity.
That common E-Y18629 lineage emerged in the Bronze Age when Somalis were even more primitive,
While Sir E-Y163949 saw books in his life, probably saw foreign traders, likely was aware of foreign continents/places, and likely was literate. E-Y18629 was likely some illiterate backwards pagan nomad,
War amuus again, waryaa. E-Y163949 was likely a happy man who drank much cow's milk, rode an ox and had the company of his wife, kids, extended family, goats, sheep, donkeys and shepherd dogs to boot. He was content and happy as a landheer E-V32 with the world as his oyster before all this civilization shit came in and corrupted the human spirit while T-L208S, J1s and all these others came in and muscled in on 30% of his booty.
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War amuus again, waryaa. E-Y163949 was likely a happy man who drank much cow's milk, rode an ox and had the company of his wife, kids, extended family, goats, sheep, donkeys and shepherd dogs to boot. He was content and happy as a landheer E-V32 with the world as his oyster before all this civilization shit came in and corrupted the human spirit while T-L1208S, J1s and all these others came in and muscled in on 30% of his booty.
He likely had T1 carrying in-laws (see all those Dir-Darod mythologies).
https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-BY8081/# look how many downstream landhereBigger than E-BY8081.
Well e-y163949 look how many downstream it's short aka langaab
Indeed. I've pointed out before how exogamous Somalis tend to be on the maternal side:
I myself have many T-L1208 relatives on 23andme as I'm sure you do too. Even have some J1 and a couple of A-M13 relatives. All these other Y-DNAs are in our ancestry via the maternal line by now.
What is ur clan
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You tested your father and yourself. So 1 doesn't count, you kind of cheated there. The rest are not recently related people.
Anyhow, I suspect 50% of the Ogadens have E-Y163949. If they do, then you can't claim to be bigger than E-Y163949.
Let's test more Ogadens.
Harti -> Dishiishe.
Some more detail if it interests you at all:
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did u do bigy700 or dantelab.... thiers dishishe guy awale kit number n102099 who did ftdna ydna he match habar awal....
Yeah but me and father muse suldan e-y195196 and then us Ismail Mohamed subclan of osman Mohamud share e-y196848...... https://www.yfull.com/live/tree/E-Y196848/
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muh recent ancestors, bunch of racists, only married from Darod and Isaaq while living near Baidoa:
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Oh, I didn't know one of my own had been tested. I haven't been myself. I'll get tested soon though and see where I sit. Would be surprising if I get the same relative result. Guess reer Dishiishe will be outed as Isaaq assimilates.
Get it during sale season November 28... Dante its only 180 dollar.... am gion to order 4 this time..... last year i order 3Oh, I didn't know one of my own had been tested. I haven't been myself. I'll get tested soon though and see where I sit. Would be surprising if I get the same relative result. Guess reer Dishiishe will be outed as Isaaq assimilates.
You know an assimilation story doesn't seem far-fetched. Dishiishe is an odd tribe. For a long time they kinda used to pass as Majeerteen but it was always understood that they were not truly MJ but just being protected under their elder brother's wing as a smaller qabiil and started asserting their differentness (Axmad Harti) more recently when they gained some wealth and position like in Bosaso. Hot take but maybe the real story is that they were Isaaq assimilates some time ago who got taken in by Majeerteens and passed themselves off as their own Harti group over-time.
Thanks for the info, though. I'll get tested soon.
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You can try cheap ass YSEQ tests in the meanwhile.
Single SNPs cost 40 bucks.
If you are not E-Y163949, shhhhhh and don't test lmao.
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