I will now post sometching that every muslim will be amazed by but the unbeliever will remain as if he did not see it
There is no pointThe verse clearly states that Allah is purposefully making it so that the unbelievers will not believe. The verse is telling you that there is no point to trying to convince unbelievers because Allah himself made them immune to believing. The verse goes on to say that because of their unbelief Allah is going to punish them. The verse is saying that Allah is going to punish unbelievers because of something he did.
Read that over and over again until it clicks. Notice how something doesn't add up?
So for 13 years he was content with having nothing but rabble follow him so that he could have a faint chance of conquest. Lol you people's parents never even gave you a basic Deen education.There is no pointnothing will click lol they are so hard headed like I seriously can’t seem to understand how anyone can be a Muslim once they learn the historical context of chapters in the quran & muhammads life altogether. it’s quite obvious that everything he did was a ploy to gain as much power as possible. The dude started 65 conquests over the course of 10 years for f*ck sakes.
Let's talk about what sealing is,"The fundamentals you're describing was the list of 6 prerequisites needed in order for Allah not to seal a person's heart. Or as you describe those who don't have these 6 prerequisites have their hearts sealed by Allah."
Correct, and if you don't believe nothing will make you believe, because in your mind you've already decided that you don't want to believe.
"What does it mean for Allah to seal their hearts?"
I already told you what it means in my previous comments. Go read my last comment.
"This quote from you "What is meant is that God sealed their hearts and ears as a consequence of their decision to reject the fundamentals of faith" doesn't answer "what" it answers "why". You're telling me "why" their hearts are sealed rather than saying the implication of a sealed heart."
That's not all I said. I also told you if a person refuses to believe, then nothing will make him believe. Not even the truth will make him believe, because in his mind he has shut everything out that agrees with whatever it is he does not want to believe. I actually said this 3 times already. Please don't make this discussion repetitive. That's very annoying, and a waste of time.
"The most obvious and direct interpretation about what the sealed heart means is that it prevents them from believing. This interpretation is supported by the next verse which says whether your warn them or not they won't believe. This makes it pretty clear what a sealed heart means. Or was the Quran not clear enough? The verse talks about a direct action taken by Allah himself. If the unbelievers inability to believe was purely out of their own actions, there would be no need for Allah to be sealing a heart."
Again you seem to be confusing yourself, and over complicating something simple. The Quran was very clear, and I explained it to you already by saying (10. This does not mean that their rejection of the Truth is a consequence of God sealing their hearts. What is meant is that God sealed their hearts and ears as a consequence of their decision to reject the fundamentals of faith, of their deliberate choice of a path divergent from that charted out by the Qur'an. Anyone who has worked for the dissemination of the Truth often finds that if, after full consideration, a person decides against a doctrine, his mind begins to move in a completely opposite direction so that he fails to appreciate anything that is explained to him. His ears become deaf, his eyes are blinded to the merits of that doctrine, and one gets the distinct impression that the person's heart has indeed been sealed.) Also We Muslims believe everything is by Allah, and you choosing not to believe in Allah was already written down by Allah. Allah gives us our destiny, and He can change our destinys anytime with the choices we make. So yes Allah has sealed your heart, and eyes but it was the choices you made that led to that.
"Among the list of 6 prerequisites you mentioned were obeying Allah. Obeying Allah means what exactly? How does a person know what Allah wants? What Allah wants is supposedly in the Quran. Meaning that a person needs to obey the Quran before they meet one of the 6 prerequisites needed for their hearts not to be sealed. If their hearts are not sealed they can believe. If it's not necessary, then don't call it a requirement."
You obey Allah by following his messenger, and by following the Quran. Allah doesn't want nothing from you, but for you to worship him, but if you choose not to worship then it is out of your own free will, and the consequences you receive in this life, and afterlife is all, because of the choices you made by not following, or believing. Allah told us what he wants many times in the Quran, and I just told you right now. A person who wants to be Muslim has already realized the Quran is the truth, and already believes. That's common sense, but you keep confusing yourself by complicating it. I already told you how the hearts get sealed. Please stop being repetitive.
"You also mentioned that despite only meeting some of the requirements there have been atheists who were able to believe in the Quran. Since when is meeting only some of the requirements sufficient? The chapter lists the qualities of the people who find the book useful. The people who don't have those qualities have their hearts sealed. Only Muslims will have those qualities. Only Muslims will not have their hearts sealed."
Again common sense should answer this question. There are athiests who are willing to listen to the truth, and who have not decided that what they believe is the ultimate truth. That's very simple to understand honestly. Not all athiests have decided that Islam is a lie, and that alone meets some of the requirements. You only choose to not believe, but some athiests are willing to learn, to believe. I answered the ending sentence in my previous comment, and in this company.
"Let's talk about what sealing is"Let's talk about what sealing is,
"if a person refuses to believe, then nothing will make him believe. Not even the truth will make him believe" Structure your sentence like this:
Allah sealing your heart means ______ happens to a person.
So according to you, having your heart sealed means they will not believe. That is what your quote is saying about the unbeliever. In the Quran verse Allah is the agent. Allah is the one engaging in an action. Tell me what Allah himself is doing. Tell me about the action rather than the consequence. "Allah seals their heart". Every time I ask about this, you draw attention to what the disbeliever is doing and why they in turn deserve to have their heart sealed. Tell me about Allah the actor, in your response don't tell me why the unbeliever deserves it. Keep the focus on the verb and the subject. Sealing and Allah.
Here's what Ibn Kathir thinks about this verse in his tafsir. Pay special attention to what Allah is doing "(Verily, those who disbelieve) meaning, covered the truth and hid it. Since Allah has written that they would do so, it does not matter if you (O Muhammad ) warn them or not, they would still have disbelieved in what you were sent with." According to Ibn Kathir this verse is saying that "sealing their hearts" is a reference to predestination, that Allah declared the unbeliever to not believe, and that's why they don't believe. That's also why it doesn't matter whether Muhammad warns these people or not, they won't believe because Allah declared it. Those who don't believe are hell-bound because of it. Those who disbelieve, do so because Allah declared it.
This interpretation is the most direct. I agree with what Ibn Kathir thinks this verse is supposed to mean. This is the most clear interpretation there is of this verse. The Quran itself claims to be clear. Or am I taking the Quran out of context when it claims to be clear? Maybe it's only clear in some contexts but not others.
This are the kind of people when they die and end up in the fire if they are given chance to come back again will die kafir again. allah knows these so wont give them another chance. Its eternity so let them enjoy it. They think they world is a joke"Let's talk about what sealing is"
I already explained to you the meaning of that verse. If you haven't understood by now then you might be suffering from some type of reading comprehension issue.
"So according to you, having your heart sealed means they will not believe."
No. According to me having your heart sealed means you chose with your own free will not to accept the truth, and now won't listen to anything about the truth, because you shut it all out. Don't twist my words, and stop repeating yourself please.
"That is what your quote is saying about the unbeliever."
No it isn't. Stop being disingenuous. Read above for what I said.
"In the Quran verse Allah is the agent. Allah is the one engaging in an action. Tell me what Allah himself is doing."
The verse you posted, and the ones I explained already told you what Allah did. He put a seal on the disbelievers heart, and I explained to you what that means. Again you're being repetitive my athiest friend.
"Tell me about the action rather than the consequence. "Allah seals their heart". Every time I ask about this, you draw attention to what the disbeliever is doing and why they in turn deserve to have their heart sealed. Tell me about Allah the actor, in your response don't tell me why the unbeliever deserves it. Keep the focus on the verb and the subject. Sealing and Allah."
Again you're repeating yourself. Allah seals the hearts of those who disbelieve. I don't understand how that's not clear enough. If you disbelieve, and choose to disbelieve then your heart will be sealed. Stop complicating what's already simple.
"Here's what Ibn Kathir thinks about this verse in his tafsir. Pay special attention to what Allah is doing "(Verily, those who disbelieve) meaning, covered the truth and hid it. Since Allah has written that they would do so, it does not matter if you (O Muhammad ) warn them or not, they would still have disbelieved in what you were sent with." According to Ibn Kathir this verse is saying that "sealing their hearts" is a reference to predestination, that Allah declared the unbeliever to not believe, and that's why they don't believe. That's also why it doesn't matter whether Muhammad warns these people or not, they won't believe because Allah declared it. Those who don't believe are hell-bound because of it. Those who disbelieve, do so because Allah declared it."
That's very correct, and is the exact same way I told you. If you look back at my previous comments, you would see that I said those who disbelieve choose to do so, and nothing will make them believe. Ibn Kathir is dope btw. Nobody can change the mind of a person who is already stuck on one path, but Allah. I've been telling you this, this whole time, but if Ibn Kathir helped you understand it then Alhamdulilah.
"The Quran itself claims to be clear. Or am I taking the Quran out of context when it claims to be clear? Maybe it's only clear in some contexts but not others."
The Quran is always clear, and sometimes we are just too dumb to understand the most simplest of things due to ignorance, and for some a biased nature. We do have a collection of sahih Hadith that gives insight to the Quran, and also great tasfir from great scholars such as Ibn Kathir. In this case. The Quran was very clear, but do you having a biased nature, and not of one trying to understand, it proved too complicated for you. You literally repeated most of the stuff you said from your previous comments.
How can you not say Allaahu Akbaar listening to this lucky blind man sing?
Basra what is so astounding about a blind man singing? You do know visual impairment does not lead to vocal impairment right?