Yes, You are blind but God did not forget you!

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Example 1 - 1679
In 16:79 , Allah declares "
Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up except Allah . Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe."

In 67:19, he (SWT) declares "Do they not see the birds above them with wings outspread and folded in? None holds them [aloft] except the Most Merciful. Indeed He is, of all things, Seeing"

1679 and 6719 are the same four numbers some 52 chapters away discussing the same exact topic

Example 2
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In Sur'an Baqara, 2:143 Allah (SWT) declares that "And it is thus that We appointed you to be the community of the middle way so that you might be witnesses to all mankind and the Messenger might be a witness to you"
Baqara is 286 verses and the exact middle verse is 286...or if you multiply the verse by the ayah number you get 286

Example 3 - 2179

In 2:179, Allah declares that
"And there is for you in legal retribution [saving of] life, O youpeople of understanding (Ulul Albab), that you may become righteous".

In 2:197. he declares that "\
Hajj is [during] well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein [by entering the state of ihram], there is [to be for him] no sexual relations and nodisobedience and no disputing during Hajj. And whatever good you do - Allah knows it. And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear of Allah . And fear Me, O you people of understanding (Ulul Albab).

In 9:127, he (SWT) declares that "And whenever a surah is revealed, they look at each other, [saying], "Does anyone see you?" and then they dismiss themselves. Allah has dismissed their hearts because they are a people who do not understand."

In these three ayats we have the same 4 numbers repeated all discussing those who either have or do not have understanding.

Example 4 - The repeated 12
In 5:12, Allah declares that "
And Allah had already taken a covenant from the Children of Israel, and We delegated from among themtwelve leaders. And Allah said, "I am with you. If you establish prayer and give zakah and believe in Mymessengers and support them and loan Allah a goodly loan, I will surely remove from you your misdeeds and admit you to gardens beneath which rivers flow. But whoever of you disbelieves after that has certainly strayed from the soundness of the way."
The number 12 is found in the Qur'an 5 times




And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie. (25:4)
 
The verse clearly states that Allah is purposefully making it so that the unbelievers will not believe. The verse is telling you that there is no point to trying to convince unbelievers because Allah himself made them immune to believing. The verse goes on to say that because of their unbelief Allah is going to punish them. The verse is saying that Allah is going to punish unbelievers because of something he did.

Read that over and over again until it clicks. Notice how something doesn't add up?
There is no point :) nothing will click lol they are so hard headed like I seriously can’t seem to understand how anyone can be a Muslim once they learn the historical context of chapters in the quran & muhammads life altogether. it’s quite obvious that everything he did was a ploy to gain as much power as possible. The dude started 65 conquests over the course of 10 years for f*ck sakes.
 
There is no point :) nothing will click lol they are so hard headed like I seriously can’t seem to understand how anyone can be a Muslim once they learn the historical context of chapters in the quran & muhammads life altogether. it’s quite obvious that everything he did was a ploy to gain as much power as possible. The dude started 65 conquests over the course of 10 years for f*ck sakes.
So for 13 years he was content with having nothing but rabble follow him so that he could have a faint chance of conquest. Lol you people's parents never even gave you a basic Deen education.
I'll break it down to you

13 years of being persecuted in mecca
10 years of transforming the entire dunya by routing the confederates of Arabia

Muhammadan rasulullah
Muhammadan rasulullah
Muhammadan rasulullah


Example 1 - 1679
In 16:79 , Allah declares "
Do they not see the birds controlled in the atmosphere of the sky? None holds them up except Allah . Indeed in that are signs for a people who believe."

In 67:19, he (SWT) declares "Do they not see the birds above them with wings outspread and folded in? None holds them [aloft] except the Most Merciful. Indeed He is, of all things, Seeing"

1679 and 6719 are the same four numbers some 52 chapters away discussing the same exact topic

Example 2
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In Sur'an Baqara, 2:143 Allah (SWT) declares that "And it is thus that We appointed you to be the community of the middle way so that you might be witnesses to all mankind and the Messenger might be a witness to you"
Baqara is 286 verses and the exact middle verse is 286...or if you multiply the verse by the ayah number you get 286

Example 3 - 2179

In 2:179, Allah declares that
"And there is for you in legal retribution [saving of] life, O youpeople of understanding (Ulul Albab), that you may become righteous".

In 2:197. he declares that "\
Hajj is [during] well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein [by entering the state of ihram], there is [to be for him] no sexual relations and nodisobedience and no disputing during Hajj. And whatever good you do - Allah knows it. And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear of Allah . And fear Me, O you people of understanding (Ulul Albab).

In 9:127, he (SWT) declares that "And whenever a surah is revealed, they look at each other, [saying], "Does anyone see you?" and then they dismiss themselves. Allah has dismissed their hearts because they are a people who do not understand."

In these three ayats we have the same 4 numbers repeated all discussing those who either have or do not have understanding.

Example 4 - The repeated 12
In 5:12, Allah declares that "
And Allah had already taken a covenant from the Children of Israel, and We delegated from among themtwelve leaders. And Allah said, "I am with you. If you establish prayer and give zakah and believe in Mymessengers and support them and loan Allah a goodly loan, I will surely remove from you your misdeeds and admit you to gardens beneath which rivers flow. But whoever of you disbelieves after that has certainly strayed from the soundness of the way."
The number 12 is found in the Qur'an 5 times




And those who disbelieve say, "This [Qur'an] is not except a falsehood he invented, and another people assisted him in it." But they have committed an injustice and a lie. (25:4)
 
"The fundamentals you're describing was the list of 6 prerequisites needed in order for Allah not to seal a person's heart. Or as you describe those who don't have these 6 prerequisites have their hearts sealed by Allah."

Correct, and if you don't believe nothing will make you believe, because in your mind you've already decided that you don't want to believe.

"What does it mean for Allah to seal their hearts?"

I already told you what it means in my previous comments. Go read my last comment.

"This quote from you "What is meant is that God sealed their hearts and ears as a consequence of their decision to reject the fundamentals of faith" doesn't answer "what" it answers "why". You're telling me "why" their hearts are sealed rather than saying the implication of a sealed heart."

That's not all I said. I also told you if a person refuses to believe, then nothing will make him believe. Not even the truth will make him believe, because in his mind he has shut everything out that agrees with whatever it is he does not want to believe. I actually said this 3 times already. Please don't make this discussion repetitive. That's very annoying, and a waste of time.

"The most obvious and direct interpretation about what the sealed heart means is that it prevents them from believing. This interpretation is supported by the next verse which says whether your warn them or not they won't believe. This makes it pretty clear what a sealed heart means. Or was the Quran not clear enough? The verse talks about a direct action taken by Allah himself. If the unbelievers inability to believe was purely out of their own actions, there would be no need for Allah to be sealing a heart."

Again you seem to be confusing yourself, and over complicating something simple. The Quran was very clear, and I explained it to you already by saying (10. This does not mean that their rejection of the Truth is a consequence of God sealing their hearts. What is meant is that God sealed their hearts and ears as a consequence of their decision to reject the fundamentals of faith, of their deliberate choice of a path divergent from that charted out by the Qur'an. Anyone who has worked for the dissemination of the Truth often finds that if, after full consideration, a person decides against a doctrine, his mind begins to move in a completely opposite direction so that he fails to appreciate anything that is explained to him. His ears become deaf, his eyes are blinded to the merits of that doctrine, and one gets the distinct impression that the person's heart has indeed been sealed.) Also We Muslims believe everything is by Allah, and you choosing not to believe in Allah was already written down by Allah. Allah gives us our destiny, and He can change our destinys anytime with the choices we make. So yes Allah has sealed your heart, and eyes but it was the choices you made that led to that.

"Among the list of 6 prerequisites you mentioned were obeying Allah. Obeying Allah means what exactly? How does a person know what Allah wants? What Allah wants is supposedly in the Quran. Meaning that a person needs to obey the Quran before they meet one of the 6 prerequisites needed for their hearts not to be sealed. If their hearts are not sealed they can believe. If it's not necessary, then don't call it a requirement."


You obey Allah by following his messenger, and by following the Quran. Allah doesn't want nothing from you, but for you to worship him, but if you choose not to worship then it is out of your own free will, and the consequences you receive in this life, and afterlife is all, because of the choices you made by not following, or believing. Allah told us what he wants many times in the Quran, and I just told you right now. A person who wants to be Muslim has already realized the Quran is the truth, and already believes. That's common sense, but you keep confusing yourself by complicating it. I already told you how the hearts get sealed. Please stop being repetitive.

"You also mentioned that despite only meeting some of the requirements there have been atheists who were able to believe in the Quran. Since when is meeting only some of the requirements sufficient? The chapter lists the qualities of the people who find the book useful. The people who don't have those qualities have their hearts sealed. Only Muslims will have those qualities. Only Muslims will not have their hearts sealed."

Again common sense should answer this question. There are athiests who are willing to listen to the truth, and who have not decided that what they believe is the ultimate truth. That's very simple to understand honestly. Not all athiests have decided that Islam is a lie, and that alone meets some of the requirements. You only choose to not believe, but some athiests are willing to learn, to believe. I answered the ending sentence in my previous comment, and in this company.
Let's talk about what sealing is,
"if a person refuses to believe, then nothing will make him believe. Not even the truth will make him believe" Structure your sentence like this:
Allah sealing your heart means ______ happens to a person.

So according to you, having your heart sealed means they will not believe. That is what your quote is saying about the unbeliever. In the Quran verse Allah is the agent. Allah is the one engaging in an action. Tell me what Allah himself is doing. Tell me about the action rather than the consequence. "Allah seals their heart". Every time I ask about this, you draw attention to what the disbeliever is doing and why they in turn deserve to have their heart sealed. Tell me about Allah the actor, in your response don't tell me why the unbeliever deserves it. Keep the focus on the verb and the subject. Sealing and Allah.

Here's what Ibn Kathir thinks about this verse in his tafsir. Pay special attention to what Allah is doing "(Verily, those who disbelieve) meaning, covered the truth and hid it. Since Allah has written that they would do so, it does not matter if you (O Muhammad ) warn them or not, they would still have disbelieved in what you were sent with." According to Ibn Kathir this verse is saying that "sealing their hearts" is a reference to predestination, that Allah declared the unbeliever to not believe, and that's why they don't believe. That's also why it doesn't matter whether Muhammad warns these people or not, they won't believe because Allah declared it. Those who don't believe are hell-bound because of it. Those who disbelieve, do so because Allah declared it.

This interpretation is the most direct. I agree with what Ibn Kathir thinks this verse is supposed to mean. This is the most clear interpretation there is of this verse. The Quran itself claims to be clear. Or am I taking the Quran out of context when it claims to be clear? Maybe it's only clear in some contexts but not others.
 

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Let's talk about what sealing is,
"if a person refuses to believe, then nothing will make him believe. Not even the truth will make him believe" Structure your sentence like this:
Allah sealing your heart means ______ happens to a person.

So according to you, having your heart sealed means they will not believe. That is what your quote is saying about the unbeliever. In the Quran verse Allah is the agent. Allah is the one engaging in an action. Tell me what Allah himself is doing. Tell me about the action rather than the consequence. "Allah seals their heart". Every time I ask about this, you draw attention to what the disbeliever is doing and why they in turn deserve to have their heart sealed. Tell me about Allah the actor, in your response don't tell me why the unbeliever deserves it. Keep the focus on the verb and the subject. Sealing and Allah.

Here's what Ibn Kathir thinks about this verse in his tafsir. Pay special attention to what Allah is doing "(Verily, those who disbelieve) meaning, covered the truth and hid it. Since Allah has written that they would do so, it does not matter if you (O Muhammad ) warn them or not, they would still have disbelieved in what you were sent with." According to Ibn Kathir this verse is saying that "sealing their hearts" is a reference to predestination, that Allah declared the unbeliever to not believe, and that's why they don't believe. That's also why it doesn't matter whether Muhammad warns these people or not, they won't believe because Allah declared it. Those who don't believe are hell-bound because of it. Those who disbelieve, do so because Allah declared it.

This interpretation is the most direct. I agree with what Ibn Kathir thinks this verse is supposed to mean. This is the most clear interpretation there is of this verse. The Quran itself claims to be clear. Or am I taking the Quran out of context when it claims to be clear? Maybe it's only clear in some contexts but not others.
"Let's talk about what sealing is"

I already explained to you the meaning of that verse. If you haven't understood by now then you might be suffering from some type of reading comprehension issue.

"So according to you, having your heart sealed means they will not believe."


No. According to me having your heart sealed means you chose with your own free will not to accept the truth, and now won't listen to anything about the truth, because you shut it all out. Don't twist my words, and stop repeating yourself please.

"That is what your quote is saying about the unbeliever."

No it isn't. Stop being disingenuous. Read above for what I said.

"In the Quran verse Allah is the agent. Allah is the one engaging in an action. Tell me what Allah himself is doing."


The verse you posted, and the ones I explained already told you what Allah did. He put a seal on the disbelievers heart, and I explained to you what that means. Again you're being repetitive my athiest friend.

"Tell me about the action rather than the consequence. "Allah seals their heart". Every time I ask about this, you draw attention to what the disbeliever is doing and why they in turn deserve to have their heart sealed. Tell me about Allah the actor, in your response don't tell me why the unbeliever deserves it. Keep the focus on the verb and the subject. Sealing and Allah."

Again you're repeating yourself. Allah seals the hearts of those who disbelieve. I don't understand how that's not clear enough. If you disbelieve, and choose to disbelieve then your heart will be sealed. Stop complicating what's already simple.

"Here's what Ibn Kathir thinks about this verse in his tafsir. Pay special attention to what Allah is doing "(Verily, those who disbelieve) meaning, covered the truth and hid it. Since Allah has written that they would do so, it does not matter if you (O Muhammad ) warn them or not, they would still have disbelieved in what you were sent with." According to Ibn Kathir this verse is saying that "sealing their hearts" is a reference to predestination, that Allah declared the unbeliever to not believe, and that's why they don't believe. That's also why it doesn't matter whether Muhammad warns these people or not, they won't believe because Allah declared it. Those who don't believe are hell-bound because of it. Those who disbelieve, do so because Allah declared it."

That's very correct, and is the exact same way I told you. If you look back at my previous comments, you would see that I said those who disbelieve choose to do so, and nothing will make them believe. Ibn Kathir is dope btw. Nobody can change the mind of a person who is already stuck on one path, but Allah. I've been telling you this, this whole time, but if Ibn Kathir helped you understand it then Alhamdulilah.

"The Quran itself claims to be clear. Or am I taking the Quran out of context when it claims to be clear? Maybe it's only clear in some contexts but not others."

The Quran is always clear, and sometimes we are just too dumb to understand the most simplest of things due to ignorance, and for some a biased nature. We do have a collection of sahih Hadith that gives insight to the Quran, and also great tasfir from great scholars such as Ibn Kathir. In this case. The Quran was very clear, but do you having a biased nature, and not of one trying to understand, it proved too complicated for you. You literally repeated most of the stuff you said from your previous comments.
 

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A child is born and right away starts suckling his mother. This needs alot coordination and guidance. Who told this child its food is inside this breast he cannot even see. And this is for all the creation of Allah.

And Moses said. My Lord is the one who created everything and then guided it.

The body of a human being is functioning now moving and going about his business and all of a sudden dies. The eye is there but cannot see. the ear is there but cannot hear.

Make this body to stand up if you have power. Or even easire stop the soul from leaving the body
 

Wardheere

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"Let's talk about what sealing is"

I already explained to you the meaning of that verse. If you haven't understood by now then you might be suffering from some type of reading comprehension issue.

"So according to you, having your heart sealed means they will not believe."


No. According to me having your heart sealed means you chose with your own free will not to accept the truth, and now won't listen to anything about the truth, because you shut it all out. Don't twist my words, and stop repeating yourself please.

"That is what your quote is saying about the unbeliever."

No it isn't. Stop being disingenuous. Read above for what I said.

"In the Quran verse Allah is the agent. Allah is the one engaging in an action. Tell me what Allah himself is doing."


The verse you posted, and the ones I explained already told you what Allah did. He put a seal on the disbelievers heart, and I explained to you what that means. Again you're being repetitive my athiest friend.

"Tell me about the action rather than the consequence. "Allah seals their heart". Every time I ask about this, you draw attention to what the disbeliever is doing and why they in turn deserve to have their heart sealed. Tell me about Allah the actor, in your response don't tell me why the unbeliever deserves it. Keep the focus on the verb and the subject. Sealing and Allah."

Again you're repeating yourself. Allah seals the hearts of those who disbelieve. I don't understand how that's not clear enough. If you disbelieve, and choose to disbelieve then your heart will be sealed. Stop complicating what's already simple.

"Here's what Ibn Kathir thinks about this verse in his tafsir. Pay special attention to what Allah is doing "(Verily, those who disbelieve) meaning, covered the truth and hid it. Since Allah has written that they would do so, it does not matter if you (O Muhammad ) warn them or not, they would still have disbelieved in what you were sent with." According to Ibn Kathir this verse is saying that "sealing their hearts" is a reference to predestination, that Allah declared the unbeliever to not believe, and that's why they don't believe. That's also why it doesn't matter whether Muhammad warns these people or not, they won't believe because Allah declared it. Those who don't believe are hell-bound because of it. Those who disbelieve, do so because Allah declared it."

That's very correct, and is the exact same way I told you. If you look back at my previous comments, you would see that I said those who disbelieve choose to do so, and nothing will make them believe. Ibn Kathir is dope btw. Nobody can change the mind of a person who is already stuck on one path, but Allah. I've been telling you this, this whole time, but if Ibn Kathir helped you understand it then Alhamdulilah.

"The Quran itself claims to be clear. Or am I taking the Quran out of context when it claims to be clear? Maybe it's only clear in some contexts but not others."

The Quran is always clear, and sometimes we are just too dumb to understand the most simplest of things due to ignorance, and for some a biased nature. We do have a collection of sahih Hadith that gives insight to the Quran, and also great tasfir from great scholars such as Ibn Kathir. In this case. The Quran was very clear, but do you having a biased nature, and not of one trying to understand, it proved too complicated for you. You literally repeated most of the stuff you said from your previous comments.
This are the kind of people when they die and end up in the fire if they are given chance to come back again will die kafir again. allah knows these so wont give them another chance. Its eternity so let them enjoy it. They think they world is a joke
 

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Basra what is so astounding about a blind man singing? You do know visual impairment does not lead to vocal impairment right?


Knowles thank you for reminding these idiots above that this is My thread! lool i forgot about it actually! lol


Well , my point was to thank Allaah swt. I mean, i was amazed at this blind man having such a talent from God. We are all not perfect. But we are all not without complete something special about us that God gave us. Allaaahu Akbaar
 
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