This is why i said they shouldnt involved in somali politics. Biggest reer baadiye. Let hiiraan be a state and i guarantee them and gugundhabe will be at it within months.
that whole shir and this is what came out of it. Yaa ilaahey yaqaan
I think the problem isn't just sharing Hirshabelle with Abgaal, they gotta share it with Gugundhabe and ****** weyne, which aren't a small tribe by any means, statistically speaking. I do get where you're coming from though. Hawaadle is being a little uncivilised here.
What the reason for Farmajo interfering in the first place, he still holds onto a failed philosophy of top-down appointment and neglecting bottom up people in those areas deciding who rules them. What his doing is totally unconstitutional and we should support our Hirshabelle brothers not because we love them but to preserve state rights from an interfering federal govt that is going beyond their jurisdictional power.
Bro to be quite honest Xawaadle are doing Gugundhabe and gaaljecel wrong in hiiran. When it comes to numbers I'm 110% positive they outnumber Xawaadle but these guys can't be bothered with pointless feuds where lives are lost. Abgaal don't care and will shed blood, hence why Xawaadle are worried, and they should be. It's a big chess move from Farmaajo, considering that Xawaadle haven't done anything in terms of developing Hirshabelle so it only makes sense for another regional president to take hold and see what he does. Xawaadle aren't the largest by any means in the region and want permenant presidency without achieving any results.
This is cap
if our numbers are small how we run hiiraan from mayors to presidency? Even our ugaas is key figure in hiiraan politics let alone beesha xawaadleSxb it's best not share a state with them. We'll make sure tribes like gunghabe, gaaljecel, madowweyn benefit more from hiiraan state.
I never said your numbers are small caadi iska dhig, I'm saying Gugundhabe, Gaaljecel and other tribes living in hiiran combined outnumber you greatly. Hadii oo nii hishiyaaan, it's game over for Xawaadle. Also just a quick piece of information my mother's Xawaadle so I've got nothing but love for you guys, just stating the obvious.This is cap
If you form Hiiraan State wallahi you, Gugandhabe and Gaaljecel will be in the same position you are in today 3 years from now.
Exactly, it will be another Mexican stand off. And I've been hearing Gugundhabe elders speaking in farlibaax this time last year, and boy oh boy I just hope it was all talk.
Sxb I feel you even I had great faith in hirshabelle but unfortunately the gentlemen agreement was broken down by farmaajo we weren't keen on the whole hirshabelle idea ugaas was against it so was the majority of reer hiiraan we tried to make it work is what is it
This guy and his cuqdad did Xawaadle smash your girl?
Look at the last bit. Theyre telling the ic they consider sheegatonimo a crime, like they care tf
This is bigger than Abgaal. This is a direct war between Xawaadle and Farmaajo (Fahad) and to use a pissed off Xawaadle to eliminate Hawiye candidates from Presidency. How will he do this?
Its pretty simple really. Xawaadle sacrificed getting the most MPs and capital in exchange for Presidency. Now when Xawaadle has less MPs than Abgaal and the capital in Jowhar and now they want to make it so anyone (Abgaal) can compete?
How is Xawaadle being uncivilised? They didn’t want Hirshabelle in the first place but only joined because they were told to keep the presidency in exchange for the most MPs to go to Abgaal and the capital to go Abgaal, and the speaker to go to Gaaljecel. So when Xawaadle sacrificed all those things to keep the presidency now all of a sudden it’s an open competition (Abgaal) while Xawaadle has lesser MPs than Abgaal and the capital in Jowhar? It’s a natural reaction from them. Best thing to do if they really mean open competition is to sit down and form a new agreement if not then everyone goes back to Hiiraan and Shabellaha Dhexe and dissolve this state. I really just laugh at people who call this a gentleman’s agreement. Can you please tell me what Gentleman Agreement has the UN and IGAD as a gurantor and a witness?
Bro I hear you but there's far too many qabiils who reside in Hirshabelle than the ones you just named, what about Gugundhabe? That's a massive xaqdaro in my opinion, hence why I don't feel bad for Xawaadle here, not sure what you expected of Abgaal to be honest, Xawaadle isn't going to escape this unscathed because this is Abgaal after all.
Your own warlord was kissing Farmajoo's ass for the past four years. Don't act like your inncoent bro. Your mps voted for Farmajoo just to spite Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud who's own mum was Xawaadle.
Shut the fuk up, ciyaal Hirshabelle are talking.Your own warlord was kissing Farmajoo's ass for the past four years. Don't act like your inncoent bro. Your mps voted for Farmajoo just to spite Hassan Sheikh Mahmoud who's own mum was Xawaadle.
These are your leaders. Who don't care about you. Who steal and rape the country
