Would a benevolent dictator ever work out in Somalia?

[Admin]

Actions speak louder than words. As long as the leader rule based on Somalia's best interest and instil law and order to the society and hold anyone despite clan accountable for their actions, people will respect him.

Aden adde is a perfect example, he is one of the few Somali presidents that all Somalis actually respects.

that was a different time and a different generation.

 

[Life]

No, I don't think so. Eventually, the dictator will die or be overthrown. Chaos will follow. We would get another dictator or a civil war.

Not if the dictator would be smart enough to insert a secession system where all dictator nominated a successor and it had to be approved by a council of some sort.

 

[Helios]

if Somalia had a democratic system, then yes based on numbers and the fact that people most likely would vote for their own clan, then yes Daroods would-be presidents. However, if we are talking about dictatorship, Anyone, as long as you have the manpower and the money, could be the leader.

I want the Dictator to enforce mass propanda and erase qabil within a few generations. Its just the reality of who is most likely to become dictator initially - a Darood

 

[Life]

that was a different time and a different generation.

Yes, different time and a different generation but not impossible.

 

[SomaliMVP]

Not if the dictator would be smart enough to insert a secession system where all dictator nominated a successor and it had to be approved by a council of some sort.

That would never work in Somalia. Tribalism will ruin it. The dictator's tribe who has enjoyed so much power will not just give it back. Other tribes will demand that the next leader should be from their tribe which will lead to a civil war.

 

[Life]

That would never work in Somalia. Tribalism will ruin it. The dictator's tribe who has enjoyed so much power will not just give it back. Other tribes will demand that the next leader should be from their tribe which will lead to a civil war.

Depends on what kind of dictator it is. If it is a qabilist dictator yes. But if it is a dictator who act based on Somalia interest then no. If the dictator was the most powerful person in Somalia and saw a greater reward in a more stable Somalia then rest assure that his clan would most likely follow suit. The whole point is to remove qabilism from Somali politics why would a dictator whom hypothetically wants to remove qabil listen to qabil elders. The Somali youth are the future of Somalia, as long as they are more nationalistically inclined I don't see another war break out.

 

[Celery]

why would any reasonable human being support a dictatorship?

Everything else failed

 

[Helios]

Everything else failed

As if a monarchy isnt just a fancy dictatorship

 

[Glizzo da Goat]

I agree with @Muji it should be a woman since women have no qabil. And it should be someone from the diaspora. The female dictator should rule with an iron fist and karbash all the filthy men who hold important positions. I also think it should be a non-muslim

Sorry to break it to you but

I was speaking of myself. I am that Female dictator. If I ever saw the chance to take power in Somalia I would take it.

A gaal could never and would never dare to hold any position in the Somali government and tell Somalis what to do. Get real.

 

[Admin]

Everything else failed

so did the dictatorship

 

[Odkac WRLD]

We need an alpha male, 6’3+ who towers over other foreign leaders, and fairly young with a western education so they will be seen as legitimate by the US,UK etc.

has to be from a minor qabil, gotta have chokehold on the country and be able to smash dissent but also follow the laws/deem and not go overboard.

Last thing is should be someone fairly successful already, as they aren’t as likely to sell land and steal shit if they already have their own assets- you guys bring Uber/Lyft Drivers here as MPs and are surprised they steal everything Nacala!

 

[Life]

Sorry to break it to you but

A gaal could never and would never dare to hold any position in the Somali government and tell Somalis what to do. Get real.

But how would you know? You could never tell that I am a gaal just by looking at me. If I ever was the leader of Somalia I would never disclose that information, at least during the state Somalia is in today. I would just separate religion from politics and keep it movin. In hindsight don't you think an agnostic/atheist Somali would be the best choice since they would just act based on somalinimo? I think so.

 

[astorecalledkmart]

No I mean just the numbers game to be able to gain power. Darood are the most numerous clan.

Hawiye are the largest clan as per the US government, CIA, and Human Rights Watch. Darood are the largest according to the Canadian Report of the Somalia Commission

 

[Glizzo da Goat]

But how would you know? You could never tell that I am a gaal just by looking at me. If I ever was the leader of Somalia I would never disclose that information, at least during the state Somalia is in today. I would just separate religion from politics and keep it movin. In hindsight don't you think an agnostic/atheist Somali would be the best choice since they would just act based on somalinimo? I think so.

What prevents a Muslim Somali from acting based on Somalinimo? The leader of the nation should reflect the people of the country he leads ( mainly because Somalia is like 99.99% Muslim. Take your a gaal agenda somewhere else, I have a way of sniffing out gaalo btw.

 

[Helios]

so did the dictatorship

Failed because we got gangbanged by the Soviet Union, Libya, Yemen and Cuba in the middle of a 1v1

 

[Yukon_Niner]

It should be a woman. Since you idiots are always reminding us women don’t have qabil it’s perfect.

preferably someone strong, powerful, who easily assimilates to power and keeps quiet about her qabil. I think I know someone like that...

best believe I would rule Somalia like a king and would also take notes from araweelos reign in how to deal with disorderly men..snip snip

I agree with @Muji it should be a woman since women have no qabil. And it should be someone from the diaspora. The female dictator should rule with an iron fist and karbash all the filthy men who hold important positions. I also think it should be a non-muslim

Ahh yes our great rulers without qabil would be @Gibiin-Udug @PuntiteQueen @General Asad

Lets get real here qabilism is a fucking plague on everyone in Somalia, you have old ass grannies trying to support their qabil and calling for others deaths.

 

[Helios]

Hawiye are the largest clan as per the US government, CIA, and Human Rights Watch. Darood are the largest according to the Canadian Report of the Somalia Commission

Hawiye outnumber Darood? Are we counting Ogaden in Ethiopia and Kenya?

 

[Life]

What prevents a Muslim Somali from acting based on Somalinimo? The leader of the nation should reflect the people of the country he leads ( mainly because Somalia is like 99.99% Muslim. Take your a gaal agenda somewhere else, I have a way of sniffing out gaalo btw.

No, you don't. You could never guess I was a gaal just by looking and speaking to me. Also, I meant in the sense that Somali gaal only has somalinimo to adhere to. Somali Muslims would be brainwashed by "my ummah" bullshit. The only agenda I have is to one day see a peaceful and stable Somalia unlike you I would never force or disrespect other people's religions thru legal means.

 

[Life]

Ahh yes our great rulers without qabil would be @Gibiin-Udug @PuntiteQueen @General Asad

Lets get real here qabilism is a fucking plague on everyone in Somalia, you have old ass grannies trying to support their qabil and calling for others deaths.

LOOL You @ Qabiilist chicks (at least two of them) to rule. One of them is probably top 10 most qabalist on this site.

 

[Muji]

No, you don't. You could never guess I was a gaal just by looking and speaking to me. Also, I meant in the sense that Somali gaal only has somalinimo to adhere to. Somali Muslims would be brainwashed by "my ummah" bullshit. The only agenda I have is to one day see a peaceful and stable Somalia unlike you I would never force or disrespect other people's religions thru legal means.

You would not force something on them? So what if they told you they wanted a Muslim leader? You would be lying and deceiving them into having a gaal leader?

to be honest I don’t think the next president should be from abroad either. It has to be someone from the region who knows more about the country than someone who grew up in America or Europe.