Will you pass down Qabiil to your Children?

[haqiiiiiin]

To put this into perspective one of the major qabils of Somalia think they're linked to Jews. I already told you it's fake lineages, it literally serves no purpose because at some point you're not going to be linked to whoever you said you were.

I've never seen someone kill 50 people with a knife but I've seen it on the news with a gun. Same way I'm yet to see a country in 30 years of civil war arguing over fake lineages.

AGAIN LINEAGE IS NOT FAKE JUST CUZ SOME WANNA BE ARAB CLAIM ARAB LINEAGE DOESNT MEAN OTHERS ARE FAKE
AND SECOND JUST CUZ SOME PEOPLE USING QABIL RACIST AND HATE DOESNT MAKE QABIL BAD JUST LIKE GUNS ARE NOT BAD AND THEY SHOULDNT BE BAN CUZ SOME PEOPLE USE GUNS TO KILL OTHERS

 

[Maximus]

AGAIN LINEAGE IS NOT FAKE JUST CUZ SOME WANNA BE ARAB CLAIM ARAB LINEAGE DOESNT MEAN OTHERS ARE FAKE
AND SECOND JUST CUZ SOME PEOPLE USING QABIL RACIST AND HATE DOESNT MAKE QABIL BAD JUST LIKE GUNS ARE NOT BAD AND THEY SHOULDNT BE BAN CUZ SOME PEOPLE USE GUNS TO KILL OTHERS

Japan is a successful nation.

They were suffering from the cancer of Qabiil but were all ethnically japanese.

The meiji restoration reunited japan into one powerful east asian state that went on to rival the Americans

What do you think somalis can learn from them?

We are one homogeneous people with dozens of clan fiefdoms, what do you think we may be able to achieve if united?

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

Qabil don’t pay my rent. So f*ck it.

 

[imperialist]

I agree. There's no need to preserve a useless primitive system that can be easily misused.

No system is primitive, it's all about how it's managed. Had Somalia been a successful nation, I suspect you would instead write about how "sophisticated" and "multilayered" Somali society is.

 

[haqiiiiiin]

A certain somebody (maybe me....) will travel there and Modernise the country.

People will comeback to find a modern somalia.

And no, I will never teach them that cancer

IT IS NOT CANCE QABIL DOESNT HARM PEOPLE OR KILL PEOPE IT THE PEOPLE THE USE FOR THEIR GAINS AND BAD
QABIL IS NAME AND LABEL
LABEL DONT GO AROUND ITSELF AND HURT PEOPLE
IT THE PEOPLE IT IS DUM TO SAY THT QABIL IS CANCEER
LET USE YOUR LOGIC FOR GUNS A GUNS DONT GO AROUND ITSELF KILLING PEOPLE
UNLES PEOPLE USE TO KILL OTHERS
YOU AND QABILIST ARE EXTREMISTS

 

[Ahmed321]

In this day & age will you teach your children the qabiil they belong in & so forth?

Ofcours I will You be Stupid if you don't, First of all we must understand what Qabil is...
Qabil is nothing other than you Father name, that has been pass down to generation to generation eventually it be come REER Someone. It's like asking would you tell your Son's who his Father is? and his Grandfather and his great Grandfather and great great great great Grandfather?

The problem with some of our Somali is their don't understand what Qabil is

They think Qabil is some new special race or different Tribes race, However if this is true than history don't lie, In Somalia we have group of people who come from outside East Africa and integrated with the Native Somalis and created mixed hybrid children call them Arab or Indians, Now this group of people who are not fully Somali bloodline their end up seeking out where their forefathers Originated (where they come from). Some of this Somalis take a big pride on it and start bragging about it. and before you know it you have two same race going at it

 

[haqiiiiiin]

Japan is a successful nation.

They were suffering from the cancer of Qabiil but were all ethnically japanese.

The meiji restoration reunited japan into one powerful east asian state that went on to rival the Americans

What do you think somalis can learn from them?

We are one homogeneous people with dozens of clan fiefdoms, what do you think we may be able to achieve if united?

AGAIN QABIL ISNT THE PROBLEM IT IS THE PEOPLE QABIL IS JUST LABEL AND IT SHOULDNT BE ERESED
QABIL IS TO KNOW YOUR LINEAGE AND ROOTS IDENTITY
BTW DONT COMPARE SOMALIS TO OTHERS PEOPLE
OR I WILL STARED COMPARING 2

 

[riyaale]

somali's won't stop qabil bs until they become minority in their own country like the tutsi

 

[haqiiiiiin]

somali's won't let go off qabil until they become minority in their own country like the tutsi

QABIL IS TO KNOW YOUR FOREFATHER AND FATHER AND AND LINEAGE IT IS IDENTITY QABIL IS JUST NAME IT DOESNT GO AROUND ITSELF AND KILL PEOPLE THE PROBLEM IT NOT QABIL
IT THE THE PEOPLE THT USE FOR THE WRONG THINGINGS

 

[Younes Osman]

I would teach my kids in the future with regards to what qabil that they belong to. But, I would not tell them to look down on other qabil. in addition, I think people who don't want to educate their kids about qabil has to do with something quite negative that has occurred in their parent's lifetime or during his/her lifetime. therefore, which that it self creates an experience that is heavily goes on the side of CONS when discussing the benefits of qabil. i.e qabil was weaponised in the days of Siad barre era in 1977-91 put one group on another. secondly, equitability in political power sharing interms of inclusiveness which has been a failure due to the 4.5 system. Therefore, creates national fragility as certain constituencies feel alienated and under represented hence the 0.5.

Qabil is an identity. Therefore, to say im "Qabil blind" is very disingenuous which then leads to confusion and doubts by not taking into account the social and political conditions Somalis are in.

 

[Younes Osman]

I'm probably the most issaq issaq guy interms of lineage that you would ever meet. But, I don't put people down based on qabil because its fucked up.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

A certain somebody (maybe me....) will travel there and Modernise the country.

People will comeback to find a modern somalia.

And no, I will never teach them that cancer

'Somali Atatürk' in the making?


Honestly, i wish we could build a time machine to change the course of Somalia's destiny by preventing the rise of communism/socialism(Siad barre); gradually eradicate qabiil and religious fundamentalism/extremism. If an Atatürk-like/right-wing nationalist leader took power after Somalia's independence we could potentially have become a first-class nation.

 

[Maximus]

'Somali Atatürk' in the making?


Honestly, i wish we could build a time machine to change the course of Somalia's destiny by preventing the rise of communism/socialism(Siad barre); gradually eradicate qabiil and religious fundamentalism/extremism. If an Atatürk-like/right-wing nationalist leader took power after Somalia's independence we could potentially have become a first-class nation.

Yeah.

We should’ve stayed out of the cold war if I’m being honest.

A Liberal economy with A Far right social policy could’ve propelled us ahead of the other african states.

Barre did bring development, but his foreign policy and support for communism failed him.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Not only that.
I will tell them about Friendly Clans and Hostile Clans

 

[Juke]

Of course, their tribe is what would make them Somali.

 

[P4$t0]

Gulf Arabs have held on to their tribal system, but they don't misuse it because they're more educated & loyal to their nationalities thanks to the fruits of Oil wealth.

Iraqi Arabs are basically the Gulf Arabs before they struck Oil.

Therein lies your solution, you can have qabiil, but you have to temper it with education, patriotism and oil money.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

Therein lies your solution, you can have qabiil, but you have to temper it with education, patriotism and oil money.

You're very naive lol. Arab society is not worth emulating.

If they fail to diversify their economies before the Oil wealth dries up they'll simply fall back into tribal barbarism and kill each other over such stupid things. You can't say the same for sophisticated & civilised groups, such as Japanese & Turkish peoples.

 

[Juke]

You're very naive lol. Arab society is not worth emulating.

If they fail to diversify their economies before the Oil wealth dries up they'll simply fall back into tribal barbarism and kill each other over such stupid things. You can't say the same for sophisticated & civilised groups, such as Japanese & Turkish peoples.

Gulf Arabs are basically Somalis that got oil rich a century ago. They're more barbaric (misogyny, brutality, slavery, etc.) and degenerate (many closet homos like the late Oman Sultan) than Somalis.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

You're very naive lol. Arab society is not worth emulating.

If they fail to diversify their economies before the Oil wealth dries up they'll simply fall back into tribal barbarism and kill each other over such stupid things. You can't say the same for sophisticated & civilised groups, such as Japanese & Turkish peoples.

Gulf Arabs are basically Somalis that got oil rich a century ago. They're more barbaric (misogyny, brutality, slavery, etc.) and degenerate (many closet homos like the late Oman Sultan) than Somalis.

There much more peaceful than Somalis and don’t hate each other as much. They also respect their leaders.

Somalis has just as much oil and look at it.

The Gulf Arabs themselves don't have all that good of a social model, but at least the very hierarchal nature of their societies means the top (royals) can govern and successfully extract/sell their oil, andspread the wealth downward. Somalia's problem is there is no stable top , and every illiterate farax thinks he can have a say in how things are to be run, even if the idiot doesn't have any clue on anything beyond what the local toothless oday told him about Reer habel habel.”

 

[.279]

Ofc I’d teach them about their qabiil and who they are. I’ll also teach them about qabyaalad and how bad it is.

It’s 2020 and people still can’t differentiate between qabiil and qabyaalad.

Qabil litteraly breeds qabyaalad. You divide ppl into groups and they'll eventually start competing for resources.

Exactly. Somali cultural/Ethnic identity is enough. Qabil should be forgotten for good.

Only correct take.