Why don't Somalis use the osmanya?

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π’Œπ’“π’π’“π’—π’•π’’_21

Burqad said:
You cannot write af-maay in osmanya.
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π’Œπ’–π’’π’›π’’π’— π’Œπ’šπ’π’™π’“ π’Œπ’›π’π’– π’Œπ’“π’‡π’˜π’™π’“ π’Œπ’π’π’π’— π’‘π’›π’”π’˜π’’π’ π’Œπ’œπ’π’˜π’†π’π’— 𐒑𐒖 π’Œπ’™π’•π’’π’˜π’’
π’Œπ’—π’‘π’π’˜ π’˜π’•π’™ 𐒓𐒖𐒇𐒖𐒒 π’Œπ’šπ’‡π’›π’’π’‚π’•π’ˆ 𐒛 π’π’π’Œπ’š π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’–π’•π’π’†π’–π’•, π’Œπ’π’π’π’—
π’Œπ’–π’‹π’–π’π’π’•π’ˆπ’– π’Œπ’šπ’‡π’˜ π’‹π’šπ’‡π’–π’† 𐒛 π’π’π’Œπ’– π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’“π’‡π’–π’• 𐒔𐒖𐒆𐒆𐒖𐒒𐒖 π’’π’˜π’’ 𐒓𐒖𐒐𐒁𐒖 𐒛
π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’–π’‘π’Œπ’–π’‘π’™π’”π’›π’•π’™, π’Œπ’π’π’π’– π’π’œπ’‡π’œπ’† 𐒓𐒛 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’—π’π’Œπ’—π’‰π’•
π’Œπ’›π’‰π’–π’†π’– π’†π’›π’Žπ’—π’•π’ˆπ’–π’’π’– 𐒓𐒛 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’šπ’’π’‚π’– π’˜π’’π’‚π’œ 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’—π’•π’’ 𐒆𐒝𐒒𐒛?
π’Œπ’™π’π’‡π’π’’π’‚π’• π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’›π’‡π’‚π’–π’• π’Œπ’™π’π’‡π’π’’π’‚π’›π’’ 𐒑𐒖 𐒖𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒒, π’Œπ’–π’‡π’Œπ’π’•π’— π’˜π’π’‡π’›π’”π’˜π’‘
π’‹π’šπ’‘π’–π’‡ π’„π’›π’ƒπ’˜ π’Œπ’π’†π’›π’π’π’– π’–π’†π’šπ’’π’•π’–π’†π’– 𐒑𐒖𐒇𐒏𐒕 π’ƒπ’π’Œπ’œπ’’, 𐒖𐒓𐒙𐒓 π’Œπ’–π’†π’“π’† π’‹π’–π’π’˜ -
π’‘π’–π’”π’˜π’’π’ - 𐒖𐒓𐒙𐒓 π’Œπ’–π’†π’“π’† π’‹π’–π’π’˜ π’–π’π’šπ’π’–π’‡, π’•π’“π’ˆπ’šπ’ 𐒑𐒖𐒄𐒖𐒑𐒓𐒆 π’˜π’•π’™ π’Œπ’π’†π’›π’π’π’–
π’–π’†π’†π’šπ’’π’π’– 𐒑𐒖𐒇𐒏𐒕 π’ƒπ’π’Œπ’œπ’’, π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’– π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’–π’’ 𐒑𐒖 𐒖𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒒, 𐒖𐒓𐒙𐒓
π’Œπ’šπ’†π’Œπ’šπ’†π’π’‘π’— π’‹π’šπ’‘π’–π’‡ π’–π’†π’œπ’‡π’™π’“ π’Œπ’π’†π’›π’π’π’– 𐒖𐒆𐒓𐒒𐒏𐒖 𐒑𐒖𐒇𐒏𐒕 π’ƒπ’π’Œπ’œπ’’
π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’– π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’–π’’ 𐒑𐒖 𐒖𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒒. π’π’œπ’‡π’œπ’† 𐒓𐒛 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’—π’π’Œπ’—π’‰π’•
π’Œπ’›π’‰π’– 𐒐𐒖 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’›π’‰π’– π’˜π’’π’‚π’œ 𐒐𐒝𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’“π’‡π’› ?

π’Œπ’–π’’π’›π’’π’— π’Œπ’šπ’π’™π’“π’™π’“, π’Œπ’›π’π’– π’Œπ’“π’‡π’˜π’™π’“-𐒛
π’Œπ’—π’π’Œπ’—π’‰π’• 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’• π’Œπ’™π’€π’›π’’ 𐒑𐒛𐒆 𐒏𐒖 π’Œπ’›π’‡π’‚-𐒛 (π’Œπ’›π’‡π’‚π’–π’•) ?

Ganaane gubow gaala guuriow Gooble maahinoo Geelidle ma goynin
Gembi iyo waran guraantiis aa loogu soo gayooday, Gooble
Gacalkiisa guri curad aa looga soo guuray Haddana nin walba aa
Soo gamgamohaayo, goofka beereed waa la goostay, gelgeshii
Gaashada daaqeysana waa la goostay, gunta intee la geyn doonaa?
Gobroontii soo gaartay Gobroontaan ma ahayn, gargooye Ibraahim
Cumar Xaaji goodaalka adunyada markii joogeen, Awow Gaduud Cali -
Mahinoo - Awow Gaduud Cali Abukar, Yuusuf Maxamuud iyo goodaalka
Addunka markii joogeen, ganuunka ganuunkan ma ahayn, Awow
Gudgudoome Cumar Adeerow goodaalka aduunka markii joogeen
Ganuunka ganuunkan ma ahayn. Beereed waa la goostay, gelgeshii
Gaasha la la goostay, gaasha intee loola guuraa ?

Ganaane gubowow, gaala guuriow-aa
Gelgeshii la goostay go'aan maad ka gaart-aa (gaartay) ?
 
Rationale

Rationale

π’Œπ’“π’π’“π’—π’•π’’_21 said:
π’Œπ’–π’’π’›π’’π’— π’Œπ’šπ’π’™π’“ π’Œπ’›π’π’– π’Œπ’“π’‡π’˜π’™π’“ π’Œπ’π’π’π’— π’‘π’›π’”π’˜π’’π’ π’Œπ’œπ’π’˜π’†π’π’— 𐒑𐒖 π’Œπ’™π’•π’’π’˜π’’
π’Œπ’—π’‘π’π’˜ π’˜π’•π’™ 𐒓𐒖𐒇𐒖𐒒 π’Œπ’šπ’‡π’›π’’π’‚π’•π’ˆ 𐒛 π’π’π’Œπ’š π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’–π’•π’π’†π’–π’•, π’Œπ’π’π’π’—
π’Œπ’–π’‹π’–π’π’π’•π’ˆπ’– π’Œπ’šπ’‡π’˜ π’‹π’šπ’‡π’–π’† 𐒛 π’π’π’Œπ’– π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’“π’‡π’–π’• 𐒔𐒖𐒆𐒆𐒖𐒒𐒖 π’’π’˜π’’ 𐒓𐒖𐒐𐒁𐒖 𐒛
π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’–π’‘π’Œπ’–π’‘π’™π’”π’›π’•π’™, π’Œπ’π’π’π’– π’π’œπ’‡π’œπ’† 𐒓𐒛 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’—π’π’Œπ’—π’‰π’•
π’Œπ’›π’‰π’–π’†π’– π’†π’›π’Žπ’—π’•π’ˆπ’–π’’π’– 𐒓𐒛 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’šπ’’π’‚π’– π’˜π’’π’‚π’œ 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’—π’•π’’ 𐒆𐒝𐒒𐒛?
π’Œπ’™π’π’‡π’π’’π’‚π’• π’ˆπ’ π’Œπ’›π’‡π’‚π’–π’• π’Œπ’™π’π’‡π’π’’π’‚π’›π’’ 𐒑𐒖 𐒖𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒒, π’Œπ’–π’‡π’Œπ’π’•π’— π’˜π’π’‡π’›π’”π’˜π’‘
π’‹π’šπ’‘π’–π’‡ π’„π’›π’ƒπ’˜ π’Œπ’π’†π’›π’π’π’– π’–π’†π’šπ’’π’•π’–π’†π’– 𐒑𐒖𐒇𐒏𐒕 π’ƒπ’π’Œπ’œπ’’, 𐒖𐒓𐒙𐒓 π’Œπ’–π’†π’“π’† π’‹π’–π’π’˜ -
π’‘π’–π’”π’˜π’’π’ - 𐒖𐒓𐒙𐒓 π’Œπ’–π’†π’“π’† π’‹π’–π’π’˜ π’–π’π’šπ’π’–π’‡, π’•π’“π’ˆπ’šπ’ 𐒑𐒖𐒄𐒖𐒑𐒓𐒆 π’˜π’•π’™ π’Œπ’π’†π’›π’π’π’–
π’–π’†π’†π’šπ’’π’π’– 𐒑𐒖𐒇𐒏𐒕 π’ƒπ’π’Œπ’œπ’’, π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’– π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’–π’’ 𐒑𐒖 𐒖𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒒, 𐒖𐒓𐒙𐒓
π’Œπ’šπ’†π’Œπ’šπ’†π’π’‘π’— π’‹π’šπ’‘π’–π’‡ π’–π’†π’œπ’‡π’™π’“ π’Œπ’π’†π’›π’π’π’– 𐒖𐒆𐒓𐒒𐒏𐒖 𐒑𐒖𐒇𐒏𐒕 π’ƒπ’π’Œπ’œπ’’
π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’– π’Œπ’–π’’π’“π’’π’π’–π’’ 𐒑𐒖 𐒖𐒔𐒖𐒕𐒒. π’π’œπ’‡π’œπ’† 𐒓𐒛 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’—π’π’Œπ’—π’‰π’•
π’Œπ’›π’‰π’– 𐒐𐒖 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’•, π’Œπ’›π’‰π’– π’˜π’’π’‚π’œ 𐒐𐒝𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’“π’‡π’› ?

π’Œπ’–π’’π’›π’’π’— π’Œπ’šπ’π’™π’“π’™π’“, π’Œπ’›π’π’– π’Œπ’“π’‡π’˜π’™π’“-𐒛
π’Œπ’—π’π’Œπ’—π’‰π’• 𐒐𐒖 π’Œπ’π’ˆπ’‚π’–π’• π’Œπ’™π’€π’›π’’ 𐒑𐒛𐒆 𐒏𐒖 π’Œπ’›π’‡π’‚-𐒛 (π’Œπ’›π’‡π’‚π’–π’•) ?

Ganaane gubow gaala guuriow Gooble maahinoo Geelidle ma goynin
Gembi iyo waran guraantiis aa loogu soo gayooday, Gooble
Gacalkiisa guri curad aa looga soo guuray Haddana nin walba aa
Soo gamgamohaayo, goofka beereed waa la goostay, gelgeshii
Gaashada daaqeysana waa la goostay, gunta intee la geyn doonaa?
Gobroontii soo gaartay Gobroontaan ma ahayn, gargooye Ibraahim
Cumar Xaaji goodaalka adunyada markii joogeen, Awow Gaduud Cali -
Mahinoo - Awow Gaduud Cali Abukar, Yuusuf Maxamuud iyo goodaalka
Addunka markii joogeen, ganuunka ganuunkan ma ahayn, Awow
Gudgudoome Cumar Adeerow goodaalka aduunka markii joogeen
Ganuunka ganuunkan ma ahayn. Beereed waa la goostay, gelgeshii
Gaasha la la goostay, gaasha intee loola guuraa ?

Ganaane gubowow, gaala guuriow-aa
Gelgeshii la goostay go'aan maad ka gaart-aa (gaartay) ?
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It looks cool, maybe it can be PL states official scirpt. I rather use Kaddare script as it is phonologically the most sound one for our language.

1. For me first would be Arabic(most practical).
2. Kaddare because it is indigenous and is most suited for the Somali language.
3. Latin.
4. Osmanya
 
π’Œ

π’Œπ’“π’π’“π’—π’•π’’_21

Rationale said:
It looks cool, maybe it can be PL states official scirpt. I rather use Kaddare script as it is phonologically the most sound one for our language.

1. For me first would be Arabic(most practical).
2. Kaddare because it is indigenous and is most suited for the Somali language.
3. Latin.
4. Osmanya
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Arabic is not suitable for the Somali language
Kaddare is too difficult to write and the script has never been used nor books published in it
and itself influenced by Osmanya
Latin is ugly alphabet tbh and does not seem write writing in our language
 
Rationale

Rationale

π’Œπ’“π’π’“π’—π’•π’’_21 said:
Arabic is not suitable for the Somali language
Kaddare is too difficult to write and the script has never been used nor books published in it
and itself influenced by Osmanya
Latin is ugly alphabet tbh and does not seem write writing in our language
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We can make the Arabic script suitable for the Somali language it doesn't take much effort to be honest. All that is missing are certain vowels.

Kaddare is more suitable for the Somali language and easier to write all the experts agreed on those facts. Its greatest shortcoming was it was very young and was yet to enjoy nationwide recognition.
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Looks quite pretty to me and I think with enough practice one can make some superb calligraphy.

I do agree that latin script is bland and boring. But I rather keep it than switch to Cismaaniya script.
 
π’Œ

π’Œπ’“π’π’“π’—π’•π’’_21

Rationale said:
We can make the Arabic script suitable for the Somali language it doesn't take much effort to be honest. All that is missing are certain vowels.

Kaddare is more suitable for the Somali language and easier to write all the experts agreed on those facts. Its greatest shortcoming was it was very young and was yet to enjoy nationwide recognition.
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Looks quite pretty to me and I think with enough practice one can make some superb calligraphy.

I do agree that latin script is bland and boring. But I rather keep it than switch to Cismaaniya script.
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Why are you against the osmanya script as it very simple and easy to write in Af Soomaali
 
Burqad

Burqad

Based said:
Majority Somalis can read the arabic script with ease. The only exception being you ciyaal say wallahi. Since when is arabic script a colonial one you knucklehead
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he has a severe case of insecurity and self-hate. I hate SomHoteps so much.
 
π’Œ

π’Œπ’“π’π’“π’—π’•π’’_21

Based said:
Majority Somalis can read the arabic script with ease. The only exception being you ciyaal say wallahi. Since when is arabic script a colonial one you knucklehead
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My point i'm trying
Burqad said:
he has a severe case of insecurity and self-hate. I hate SomHoteps so much.
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How do i have a case of self hate or insecurity you dumb nacaas, as i'm proud Somali and i do not want a bastardised non Somali script to write our language.
 
Periplus

Periplus

Minister of Propaganda
VIP
Hamzza said:
Actually the Somali Youth League espoused in article 5(d) of its statute the cause of the Somali language as the future language of the country, and of a Somali script - the Osmania.
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Doesn’t change the fact that they used to write in the Latin script and promoted that script when elected to government.
 
Hamzza

Hamzza

VIP
Periplus said:
Doesn’t change the fact that they used to write in the Latin script and promoted that script when elected to government.
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They abandoned the idea of Osmanya script after 1950s, but your statement "SYL never seriously considered the Osmanya script" is wrong.
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They tried, but it didn't work.
 
Periplus

Periplus

Minister of Propaganda
VIP
Hamzza said:
They abandoned the idea of Osmanya script after 1950s, but your statement "SYL never seriously considered the Osmanya script" is wrong.
View attachment 241805They tried, but it didn't work.
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When they made a commission into implementing a script, the two seriously considered were Arabic and Latin.

Words is one thing but action matters.
 
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