Why didnt somalis get conquered like oromos, afars?

[Subeer]

Actually very mystic to think about, when out numbers back then didnt exceed 2 million, we didnt have a united state but multiple reers who even were enemies, which again is very mystic that we didnt get conquered, when we made it so easy?
Oromos were united, much much larger in numbers, and still ended up getting swallowed, same with afars.
We were (and still are) the people who in comparison to our numbers owned the most land.

 

[Marquis]

Oromos weren't united. they are actually very divided and this Oromo Nationalism is some new bullshit that won't work.

Afars are small in numbers and were getting bullied by the Dirs, especially Cisse.

 

[Factz]

Ethiopians attempted to expand in southern Somalia but the Geledi Sultanate silently defeated them in the battle of Luuq. Dervish State repelled them multiple times. A powerful Somali commander of Hiraab Imamate called Sheikh Hassan Barsane completely destroyed all of the Ethiopian forces in the battle of Ferfer. So many Ethiopian attempts failed the Somalis from being absorbed by Ethiopia.

One historical fact I learned is if the Ottoman Empire and the German Empire won WW1. Dervish State would've been ruling all Somali territories and possibly ruled all of the historical Somali territories by now.

I mean the reason why Ethiopia controls the Somali region is because the British gave them.

 

[esmailxxx]

They tried all of them bantu expansion,oromo expansion,portugal somalia from 1987-1920 was the only muslim country in africa to be independent they fought ethiopia,the british and italians at the same time
Somali will never except a ruler,including a somali ruler

 

[Subeer]

Oromos weren't united. they are actually very divided and this Oromo Nationalism is some new bullshit that won't work.

Afars are small in numbers and were getting bullied by the Dirs, especially Cisse.

Well still we wuz never united before 1960, and we much smaller in numbers too, and we even had big enmity between us.
And you dont think ethiopia or the habeshas had their eyes on our land, and saw the usefulness, and ports. There have def been alot of attempts, but with no success

 

[Shaolin23]

Somalis have a never say die attitude it’s too much of headache and imo impossible to conquer them outright

 

[.279]

Oromos weren't united. they are actually very divided and this Oromo Nationalism is some new bullshit that won't work.

Afars are small in numbers and were getting bullied by the Dirs, especially Cisse.

We truly are the vanguard of the somali ppl. Bordered afars and oromos for centuries and beat them to a pulp without getting assimilated! Mashallah to us

 

[.279]

They tried all of them bantu expansion,oromo expansion,portugal somalia from 1987-1920 was the only muslim country in africa to be independent they fought ethiopia,the british and italians at the same time
Somali will never except a ruler,including a somali ruler

Who stopped the bantu expansion into the horn and where can i read up on it?

@Factz mr history soo gal

 

[Crow]

It is true that we were never united in the past. Somaliweyn was full of rival kingdoms and factions that hated each other but hated gaalo even more. What was special about them was that each one was powerful enough to repel Abyssinian and other foreign aggression on its own.

Look at the Futuh Al Habash, for example. The Adal Empire fought and nearly destroyed the Habesh without the help of the powerful but rival Ajuuran.

Look at the Geledi Sultanate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Somalia

The Ethiopian Emperor Menelik's Somali expedition, consisting of an army of 11,000 men, made a deep push into the vicinity of Luuq in Somalia. However, his troops were soundly defeated by the Gobroon army, with only 200 soldiers returning alive. The Ethiopians subsequently refrained from further expeditions into the interior of Somalia

Look at @Factz's post for other examples.

 

[.279]

It is true that we were never united in the past. Somaliweyn was full of rival kingdoms and factions that hated each other but hated gaalo even more. What was special about them was that each one was powerful enough to repel Abyssinian and other foreign aggression on its own.

Look at the Futuh Al Habash, for example. The Adal Empire fought and nearly destroyed the Habesh without the help of the powerful but rival Ajuuran.

Look at the Geledi Sultanate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Somalia

Look at @Factz's post for other examples.

Why do so they have to exaggerate the numbers? At least make it believable 200 vs 11k and won? Nah

 

[Factz]

It is true that we were never united in the past. Somaliweyn was full of rival kingdoms and factions that hated each other but hated gaalo even more. What was special about them was that each one was powerful enough to repel Abyssinian and other foreign aggression on its own.

Look at the Futuh Al Habash, for example. The Adal Empire fought and nearly destroyed the Habesh without the help of the powerful but rival Ajuuran.

Look at the Geledi Sultanate.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Somalia

Look at @Factz's post for other examples.

@Kingcobra What @Crow posted is true. In the battle of Luuq, Menelik sent 11 thousand soldiers to expand to southern Somalia but Geledi Sultanate silently defeated them in Luuq and only 200 of Menelik forces survived but they were heavily traumatized.

 

[Shaolin23]

@Kingcobra What @Crow posted is true. In the battle of Luuq, Menelik sent 11 thousand soldiers to expand to southern Somalia but Geledi Sultanate silently defeated them in Luuq and only 200 of Menelik forces survived but they were heavily traumatized.

My God!Geledi Sultanate put 10,800 Xabasha in the dirt in one battle Somalidi hore caadi ma aha

 

[.279]

@Kingcobra What @Crow posted is true. In the battle of Luuq, Menelik sent 11 thousand soldiers to expand to southern Somalia but Geledi Sultanate silently defeated them in Luuq and only 200 of Menelik forces survived but they were heavily traumatized.

200 soldiers returning alive. I misread lol

 

[.279]

My god Geledi Sultanate put 10,800 Xabasha in the dirt in one battle

I need sources on this as well as my previous question

 

[Von]

one on one any clan can kick non-Somali ass but we do badly against multiple directional attacks. I believe if we united Southern Arabia, the Horn of Africa, Central East Africa would be Somali or in the Somali sphere of influence. We would also be on the list of people that conquered Egypt.

If Somali conquered Egypt there would be no Egypt or Arab pride there

 

[FendiFanatic]

Because of Islam we were the only muslims in the horn. Even if you don't believe in Islam being a muslim means you have more reason to not get conquered. Oromos and Afars were christians so they didn't mind being ruled by christians

 

[guntiino101]

Because of Islam we were the only muslims in the horn. Even if you don't believe in Islam being a muslim means you have more reason to not get conquered. Oromos and Afars were christians so they didn't mind being ruled by christians

98% of Afars are Muslims. I don't think they've ever been Christian

 

[Crow]

Geledi Sultanate was known to have a massive standing army. They used 40,000 troops to quell the Baardheere jihads.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/...ali-jihad-against-the-geledi-sultanate.45755/

 

[Crow]

one on one any clan can kick non-Somali ass but we do badly against multiple directional attacks. I believe if we united Southern Arabia, the Horn of Africa, Central East Africa would be Somali or in the Somali sphere of influence. We would also be on the list of people that conquered Egypt.

If Somali conquered Egypt there would be no Egypt or Arab pride there

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Somalia

A 17th-century BC text found in a tomb in El Kab, belonging to the local governor, Sobeknakht II, mentions “a huge attack from the south on El Kab and Ancient Egypt by the Kingdom of Kush and its allies from the Land of Punt”.

We came close.

 

[Von]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Somalia

We came close.

So we could have been the first ones on the list