Why are puntland (political elites) so somalidiid

[Silky]

Iyo nabad-diid. If qabyaalad and qabilism is anthetical for a strong Somalia why are puntland pushing for the creation of clan enclaves under the guise of federalism. Furthermore why are they undermining the FGS especially when it's leader is not from their community.

 

[Silky]

The fact that they can't stand Somalis (Dhulos etc) working with their fellow Somalis in peace but rather the creation of a 1 sub clan state speaks of a Somalidiid anti-peace clannish ideology borne out of something else. It also suggests that they dont hold somalinimo in high regard because somalinimo only exists for them when they are leading.
This i think (or rather hope) is limited to the poltical elites and not the populace of puntland.

 

[Silky]

what would PL do Somalia had a Isaaq President. One thinks that based on the current track record they would tear their hair out and start violence because other Somalis leading the country rubs them the wrong way. Walee waa cajiib
Anyway I hope my fellow malis in the north east can get over the chip on the shoulders.

PEACE

 

[MahmÜd]

These people have been holding the rest of us back from progression for the longest, why did Allah curse us with such shitty people as neighbours

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

There’s simply too much animosity between harti and isaac for us harti to share anything with our enemies isaac.

Isaac leadership always diss warsengeli and dhulbhante talking about we killed you darood uncle siad barre.

Personally I despise Isaac cause they despise jaale siad barre the mujahid and all dhulbhante and warsengeli love jaale siad barre.

Besides Isaac broke off from Somalia cause of their hatred for darood hegemony and now they want to rule harti? Never in a million years harti will march till they reach burco and bath on our enemies blood I pray this war between harti and isaac continues indefinitely in sha Allah until all isaac are wiped out.

 

[Cognitivedissonance]

These people have been holding the rest of us back from progression for the longest, why did Allah curse us with such shitty people as neighbours

Daily suicide bombing half of hawiye land controlled by al shabaab Mogadishu controlled by al shabaab how is Puntland holding hawiye back again?

 

[Saalax Bidaar]

There’s simply too much animosity between harti and isaac for us harti to share anything with our enemies isaac.

Isaac leadership always diss warsengeli and dhulbhante talking about we killed you darood uncle siad barre.

Personally I despise Isaac cause they despise jaale siad barre the mujahid and all dhulbhante and warsengeli love jaale siad barre.

Besides Isaac broke off from Somalia cause of their hatred for darood hegemony and now they want to rule harti? Never in a million years harti will march till they reach burco and bath on our enemies blood I pray this war between harti and isaac continues indefinitely in sha Allah until all isaac are wiped out.

I am sorry that you got your feelings hurt

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Did i wake up in a parallel earth? Did a secessionist fighting over a colonial border call us somalidid and a hawiye say we are holding his people back from progressing?

 

[Yonis]

Did i wake up in a parallel earth? Did a secessionist fighting over a colonial border call us somalidid and a hawiye say we are holding his people back from progressing?

 

[TOGAHERER]

Ask yourself what a somalia without darood would look like....

Darood is a curse to somalia...hense why we need to have to separate states To break them permanently.

Somaliland and Somalia. Isaaq and Hawiye at peace with these people as 5th class people....

 

[Abdalla]

This is like the shaytan saying why don't people fear God

 

[MahmÜd]

Ask yourself what a somalia without darood would look like....

Peace and progression

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

The fact that OP is trying to paint this as a Puntland problem is disingenuous. You do not have rights over other clans nor will you ever have them. If they wanted to work with you SSC would have been part of Somaliland a long time ago but it never has. Puntland was in control from 1998 to 2007 and Somaliland is in control of the regional capital from 2007 to 2018. The reason Somaliland had no full jurisdiction over the region previously and till this day is because it's a different clan from the Isaaq.

OPs thread stems from a realization of their failures in accommodating the Darod tribes they are so eagerly to insult and be niggardly towards with little to no investment in their lands. Puntland has done more in Warsangeli Sanaag than Somaliland has for 27 years if that doesn't explain your problem then I don't know what does.

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Ask yourself what a somalia without darood would look like....

Darood is a curse to somalia...hense why we need to have to separate states To break them permanently.

Somaliland and Somalia. Isaaq and Hawiye at peace with these people as 5th class people....

These people have been holding the rest of us back from progression for the longest, why did Allah curse us with such shitty people as neighbours

Peace and progression

Post 1991 if you remove Darod from the equation:

1- Mogadishu would still be chaos/destroyed
2- Somaliland would be independent

Whichever way you twist it, a moryaan will always a be a moryaan.

 

[Silky]

Isn't it soomlidiid and against the interest of somali people to break states down into tribal enclaves of harti this hawiye that etc etc

SL which is a entity that encompasses Dir, Darood and Isaaq in a political project that is admittedly imperfect, but suggests what is possible for future somali cooperation.
I'm personally for the reunification of SL with Somalia but under a system in which more than 1 clan share a state, a truly unionist and somalinimo-ist (?) position that PL is completely against. Why? Who knows

 

[MahmÜd]

Isn't it soomlidiid and against the interest of somali people to break states down into tribal enclaves of harti this hawiye that etc etc

SL which is a entity that encompasses Dir, Darood and Isaaq in a political project that is admittedly imperfect, but suggests what is possible for future somali cooperation.
I'm personally for the reunification of SL with Somalia but under a system in which more than 1 clan share a state, a truly unionist and somalinimo-ist (?) position that PL is completely against. Why? Who knows

Because they would be irrelevant without this federilism kkkk, that and they are folks who are allergic to peace and progression. What sort of retarded federal state literally goes against the federal government?

 

[AarLibaax]

Isn't it soomlidiid and against the interest of somali people to break states down into tribal enclaves of harti this hawiye that etc etc

SL which is a entity that encompasses Dir, Darood and Isaaq in a political project that is admittedly imperfect, but suggests what is possible for future somali cooperation.
I'm personally for the reunification of SL with Somalia but under a system in which more than 1 clan share a state, a truly unionist and somalinimo-ist (?) position that PL is completely against. Why? Who knows

on point

 

[Cotton Eyed Joe]

Isn't it soomlidiid and against the interest of somali people to break states down into tribal enclaves of harti this hawiye that etc etc

SL which is a entity that encompasses Dir, Darood and Isaaq in a political project that is admittedly imperfect, but suggests what is possible for future somali cooperation.
I'm personally for the reunification of SL with Somalia but under a system in which more than 1 clan share a state, a truly unionist and somalinimo-ist (?) position that PL is completely against. Why? Who knows

Your system has already failed it was called Somalia. Federalism is an unimplemented system but Puntland proves that it provides stability. Puntland is a clan state which is the entire basis of its existence.

You are appealing to emotion rather than rationale because the reunification you are talking about is Dir with the rest of Somalia not Somaliland with Somalia. Once you look past the facade and view the situation pragmatically you will understand that we live in a clan based society.

The point at hand right now and here is that you don't have any more right to SSC than Puntland particularly given what society we live in. You are blaming Puntland for your own failures but now we live in the digital age and every time you people insult and undermine Darod it ends straight up on Facebook and Whatsapp that's why your smoke mirror is fading.

 

[Silky]

Horta isn't it true that PL exists as a Parody of SL and to hamper its ictiraaf agenda. PL now stands for the institutionalization of qabilism in somalia at the expense of all; the lives of the people of soil and trust in the FGS

 

[MahmÜd]

Horta isn't it true that PL exists as a Parody of SL and to hamper its ictiraaf agenda. PL now stands for the institutionalization of qabilism in somalia at the expense of all; the lives of the people of soil and trust in the FGS

Puntland and Somaliland are no different wallahi, except for the fact that Punanis don't have the balls to f*ck off away from us. Apart from that, they do everything yous do, they are copycats kkkk