Who were the ancient Egyptians?

[Nightline Kid]

@Canuck @Inquisitive_ @The Cushitic One @Prince Abubu @Xooshdheere @FSMDOA @YoungFarah @Amun

Us somalispotters were correct when we said that the "scientists" made a DNA analysis on some foreigners and not the indigenous African Egyptians. In fact, the neanderthals were too eager to claim Egypt that they may have lost the Cradle of Western Civilization!!!

First I will post this for the people who haven't seen it yet.

"In their paper, the researchers acknowledged that “all our genetic data were obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eveals-their-ancestry/?utm_term=.eaab62101b46

As you can see above, the researchers basically published propaganda. Now here is the part where they debunk themselves!!!

"Importantly, there is evidence for foreign influence at Abusir el-Meleq. Individuals with Greek, Latin and Hebrew names are known to have lived at the site and several coffins found at the cemetery used Greek portrait image and adapted Greek statue types to suit ‘Egyptian’ burial practices. The site’s first excavator, Otto Rubensohn, also found a Greek grave inscription in stone as well as a writing board inscribed in Greek46. Taken together with the multitude of Greek papyri that were written at the site, this evidence strongly suggests that at least some inhabitants of Abusir el-Meleq were literate in, and able to speak, Greek"
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694?proof=true&error=cookies_not_supported
This is where the DNA samples were taken from. They were basically studying the DNA of Greeks and Romans.

But here is where things get juicy!!!

According to this graph, the "Egyptians" (Romans and Greeks) cluster with the Arabs and North Africans. The second closest to the Romans and Greeks are the Eastern Europeans and the Turks.
This means that the father of Western Civilization are the Arabs, the North Africans, and possibly some Slavs.

Why was I mentioned

 

[The Cushitic One]

I knew it, wallahi these white people
Love to claim everything for themselves!

 

[Malcolm X]

I believe you can approximate ethnicity of a person via skeleton.

I think skeletons from North and East Africa are pretty much the same, the main differences are in flesh and skin colour.

If somehow, it was confirmed that ancient Egyptians are dark skinned, they would be Cushites.

 

[Prince Abubu]

I can understand why African Americans are butt-hurt, but why are Somalis obsessed with Egypt? They were an ancient middle-eastern people. No amount of "WE WUZ..." is gonna change that. Stop your pathetic begging, it's embarrassing. Somalis have their own rich history.

 

[EternalLightX]

I can understand why African Americans are butt-hurt, but why are Somalis obsessed with Egypt? They were an ancient middle-eastern people. No amount of "WE WUZ..." is gonna change that. Stop your pathetic begging, it's embarrassing. Somalis have their own rich history.

Which history ? Can document what Somalis were pre Islam ? Nobody knows, not enough research has been conducted as to what sort of kingdom our people created. Perhaps Somalia didn't even exists then, who knows.. our oral society has caused a big mystery as to what we were

 

[Xooshdheere]

Which history ? Can document what Somalis were pre Islam ? Nobody knows, not enough research has been conducted as to what sort of kingdom our people created. Perhaps Somalia didn't even exists then, who knows.. our oral society has caused a big mystery as to what we were

Our documented history mostly begun when Islam was created, around 662 CE. The term "Somalia" of course didn't exist, like all other countries. The term Somalia was created by Samaale. Somalia back then ca.2000 BC was called Punt, and traded with the ancient Egyptians. That's how far we know pre-Islam.

 

[EternalLightX]

Our documented history mostly begun when Islam was created, around 662 CE. The term "Somalia" of course didn't exist, like all other countries. The term Somalia was created by Samaale. Somalia back then ca.2000 BC was called Punt, and traded with the ancient Egyptians. That's how far we know pre-Islam.

I wish I could have the finance to conduct archeological studies on the ancient land of Punt by answering the questions of what our ancestors did in the past and how Islam slowly made its way..... people believe it was peaceful, some forceful etc, what this ancient Waaq religion was etc. I would be famous if I unlocked it

 

[oday1kenobi]

Ancient Egyptians = modern Egyptians

 

[Xooshdheere]

I wish I could have the finance to conduct archeological studies on the ancient land of Punt by answering the questions of what our ancestors did in the past and how Islam slowly made its way..... people believe it was peaceful, some forceful etc, what this ancient Waaq religion was etc. I would be famous if I unlocked it

how many are suffering from gaalnimo on this site Islam was introduced to Somalia, through trade. Trading with Muslims.
Waaq was created by nomads chewing khaat

 

[Sophisticate]

Were Ancient Egyptians purely Eurasian and/or African or were they admixed? Probably all of the above. Egypt was cosmopolitan. I think that's what irritates people. Proto-Eastern Cushites have a connection to Southern Egypt (Kerma) around 5000 years ago. I wonder how old Cushites are?

 

[Prince Abubu]

Were Ancient Egyptians purely Eurasian and/or African or were they admixed? Probably all of the above. Egypt was cosmopolitan. I think that's what irritates people. Proto-Eastern Cushites have a connection to Southern Egypt (Kerma) around 5000 years ago. I wonder how old Cushites are?

Kermans and Egyptians are two different populations, like Greek and Roman. Just because you have linguistic and genetic affinity for one doesn't imply you are related to the other.

As for the age of Cushites, given the very little linguistic resemblance between Somali and Arabic, I'd say the Afro-Asiatic family is the oldest language family in the world. As such, I would put Cushitic as 10-20,000 years old.

 

[Apollo]

This debate is so dull.

Ancient Egyptians were racially Southwest Eurasian similar to modern Egyptians and Middle Easterners, especially the Copts.

The begging for AE by Aframs and now even some Somalis is pathetic.

 

[Apollo]

As for the age of Cushites, given the very little linguistic resemblance between Somali and Arabic, I'd say the Afro-Asiatic family is the oldest language family in the world. As such, I would put Cushitic as 10-20,000 years old.

Afro-Asiatic is 15,000 yrs old tops. 20k seems a bit over the top ancient..

Somewhere between 15 kya to 11 kya seems to be the right figure.

Cushitic itself being ~8 to 6 kya.

 

[Prince Abubu]

Afro-Asiatic is 15,000 yrs old tops. 20k seems a bit over the top ancient..

Somewhere between 15 kya to 11 kya seems to be the right figure.

Cushitic itself being ~8 to 6 kya.

You're right, that sounds a lot more reasonable. Although it really shows how old Cushitic is when Proto-Germanic is about 2-3 kya.

How old do you think Proto-Somali/Macro-Somali is?

 

[Apollo]

You're right, that sounds a lot more reasonable. Although it really shows how old Cushitic is when Proto-Germanic is about 2-3 kya.

How old do you think Proto-Somali/Macro-Somali is?

Hmm probably somewhere around 2.5 to 4 kya.

Somalis have very weird genetics compared to most Cushites, even East Oromos and the like. I wouldn't equate linguistic similarity with ethnic similarity with Ethiopian LE Cushites. They are most likely Somali types who went Southwest/West and got diluted rather than them being ancestral to Somalis.

 

[Prince Abubu]

Hmm probably somewhere around 2.5 to 4 kya.

Somalis have very weird genetics compared to most Cushites, even East Oromos and the like. I wouldn't equate linguistic similarity with ethnic similarity with Ethiopian LE Cushites. They are most likely Somali types who went Southwest/West and got diluted rather than them being ancestral to Somalis.

Who are you referring to? The Kerma Culture? Those guys had as much to do with Somalis as Icelandic Vikings had to do with modern Dutch/Flemish folk.

 

[Apollo]

Who are you referring to? The Kerma Culture? Those guys had as much to do with Somalis as Icelandic Vikings had to do with modern Dutch/Flemish folk.

Boranas, Rendille and all those weird tribes between South Ethiopia and North Kenya. They speak the closest languages to Somali, but are diluted Somalis rather than being proto-Somalis (as in ancestral, which they are not).

 

[Sophisticate]

This debate is so dull.

Ancient Egyptians were racially Southwest Eurasian similar to modern Egyptians and Middle Easterners, especially the Copts.

The begging for AE by Aframs and now even some Somalis is pathetic.

Why do you think everyone and thing including the kitchen sink is claiming them?

 

[Apollo]

Why do you think everyone and thing including the kitchen sink is claiming them?

Ancient Egypt is the most impressive ancient civilization. Mesopotamia was older, but not as impressive.

 

[Sophisticate]

Ancient Egypt is the most impressive ancient civilization. Mesopotamia was older, but not as impressive.

Bro, you do realize the hoteps will be claiming the Ancient Egyptians even if they are Near Eastern? :siilaanyolaugh: They'll still claim DNA sampling on Ancient Egyptian mummies is scant and even demand more ancient samples are required (pre-1400BC). Even though agriculture (particularly grain cultivation) originated in the Middle East and homosexuality. They'll claim that too.