Who were the ancient Egyptians?

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We have people that are descended from west African slaves claiming this ancient civilisation and on the other hand we have white (Scandinavian, British etc) people claiming it as well. So the question is who were they and which people today are more related to those ancient Egyptians?

Is it safe to say that in the beginning ancient Egypt was majority black? And later on it became more multicultural when the Greek invaded etc?

If the early stages of this civilisation were entirely black then were these 'black' people more related to west Africans or were they their "own" race (I don't know how I could worded it better meh).

History/genealogy fanatics come out of your hiding!
 
ethan bradberry

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Could be, but aren't most Egyptians today descended from Arab invaders? And when you say Sudanese, do you mean the Nubians?
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It's a common misconception. It's true that Egyptians do have some Arab admixture and adopted Arabic as a language but when it comes to genetics they are still the same. And yes I meant the nubians.
 
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The ancient Egyptians are still there... they just ended being mixed with all those invaders and conquered people.

They were plenty of Berber and Semitic tribes nearby that they could've been a part of originally.

Although we don't have the answer on who they were but I'm assuming they split off very early from when the Afro-Asiatic people were one.

If you could figure out their origin then you'd probably have some idea on our origins as well (although we are definitely not the same beoble).
 
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They drew themselves on walls and tombs as brown people that are dark skin. Far from white. They could be black by the one drop rule of the USA today but they looked nothing like native west Africans because the ancient Egyptians were part of the broader AfroAsiatic linguo-ethnic group not Niger-Congo group which the AAs come from.

Only ones who can claim them is modern Egyptians because they share the land and the most DNA with the original ones but even the ones today have almost nothing in common with the original ones. Those people are just absolutely dead and extinct now.

Only thing that remains is their buildings and faint cultural plus genetic influence. People should respect them and their culture for contributing so much to the world and not steal their shit. Let the dead rest in peace
 
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The recent DNA study suggests ancient Egyptians had substantially lower amounts of sub Saharan African ancestry than modem day Egyptians . I think Copts are closer to ancient Egyptians than anyone else . should be there more studies like the recent carried out, it could well be the nail in the coffin for the Afro suugocentrics. ,who rely on the likes of cheik anta Diop.
 
Xooshdheere

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We were genetically , linguistically and culturally more related to them tbh. In Hatshepsut’s temple, an expedition shows Punt Land located in present day Somalia. The ancient Somali name for their region was "Bunn", a name referenced in texts related to trade with the pharaohs as "Pwenet" or "Pwene", and the region is known as "Bunni" today. The culture of Punt Land bears several resemblances to that of the ancient Egyptians, such as language, ceremonial dress, and the arts.

  • Ancient Egyptian, “Hes” = song, sing with musical instrument/ in Somali, “Hes” = song, sing with musical instrument.
  • “AAR” means “lion” in both languages.
  • Ancient Egyptian, “Ra” = the Sun God/ in Somali “Qor Rah” means the neck of Rah.
  • Ancient Egyptian, Haa – Hey = glad, to be glad/ in Somali, Haa – Hey = glad.
  • Ancient Egyptian, “Hun”, Hunnu” = young man, young girl/ in Somali “Hun”, “Hunno” = young man, young girl.
  • Ancient Egyptian/ in Somali Awoow = grandfather, old man.
Name any other ethnic group, race and language that has similar traits and words.
 
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Xooshdheere said:
We were genetically , linguistically and culturally more related to them tbh. In Hatshepsut’s temple, an expedition shows Punt Land located in present day Somalia. The ancient Somali name for their region was "Bunn", a name referenced in texts related to trade with the pharaohs as "Pwenet" or "Pwene", and the region is known as "Bunni" today. The culture of Punt Land bears several resemblances to that of the ancient Egyptians, such as language, ceremonial dress, and the arts.

  • Ancient Egyptian, “Hes” = song, sing with musical instrument/ in Somali, “Hes” = song, sing with musical instrument.
  • “AAR” means “lion” in both languages.
  • Ancient Egyptian, “Ra” = the Sun God/ in Somali “Qor Rah” means the neck of Rah.
  • Ancient Egyptian, Haa – Hey = glad, to be glad/ in Somali, Haa – Hey = glad.
  • Ancient Egyptian, “Hun”, Hunnu” = young man, young girl/ in Somali “Hun”, “Hunno” = young man, young girl.
  • Ancient Egyptian/ in Somali Awoow = grandfather, old man.
Name any other ethnic group, race and language that has similar traits and words.
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:shookgabre::shookgabre: I still need scientific sources.
 
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Xooshdheere said:
We were genetically , linguistically and culturally more related to them tbh. In Hatshepsut’s temple, an expedition shows Punt Land located in present day Somalia. The ancient Somali name for their region was "Bunn", a name referenced in texts related to trade with the pharaohs as "Pwenet" or "Pwene", and the region is known as "Bunni" today. The culture of Punt Land bears several resemblances to that of the ancient Egyptians, such as language, ceremonial dress, and the arts.

  • Ancient Egyptian, “Hes” = song, sing with musical instrument/ in Somali, “Hes” = song, sing with musical instrument.
  • “AAR” means “lion” in both languages.
  • Ancient Egyptian, “Ra” = the Sun God/ in Somali “Qor Rah” means the neck of Rah.
  • Ancient Egyptian, Haa – Hey = glad, to be glad/ in Somali, Haa – Hey = glad.
  • Ancient Egyptian, “Hun”, Hunnu” = young man, young girl/ in Somali “Hun”, “Hunno” = young man, young girl.
  • Ancient Egyptian/ in Somali Awoow = grandfather, old man.
Name any other ethnic group, race and language that has similar traits and words.
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Egyptian/Wolof
hs/has - weak
hbsit-wife / sit- new bride
etc.
Coptic would be the closest to the Egyptian language
 
DeathWish

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Us somalispotters were correct when we said that the "scientists" made a DNA analysis on some foreigners and not the indigenous African Egyptians. In fact, the neanderthals were too eager to claim Egypt that they may have lost the Cradle of Western Civilization!!!

First I will post this for the people who haven't seen it yet.

"In their paper, the researchers acknowledged that “all our genetic data were obtained from a single site in Middle Egypt and may not be representative for all of ancient Egypt.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...eveals-their-ancestry/?utm_term=.eaab62101b46

As you can see above, the researchers basically published propaganda. Now here is the part where they debunk themselves!!!

"Importantly, there is evidence for foreign influence at Abusir el-Meleq. Individuals with Greek, Latin and Hebrew names are known to have lived at the site and several coffins found at the cemetery used Greek portrait image and adapted Greek statue types to suit ‘Egyptian’ burial practices. The site’s first excavator, Otto Rubensohn, also found a Greek grave inscription in stone as well as a writing board inscribed in Greek. Taken together with the multitude of Greek papyri that were written at the site, this evidence strongly suggests that at least some inhabitants of Abusir el-Meleq were literate in, and able to speak, Greek."
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms15694?proof=true&error=cookies_not_supported
This is where the DNA samples were taken from. They were basically studying the DNA of Greeks and Romans.:cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley:

But here is where things get juicy!!!
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According to this graph, the "Egyptians" (Romans and Greeks) cluster with the Arabs and North Africans. The second closest to the Romans and Greeks are the Eastern Europeans and the Turks.
This means that the fathers of Western Civilization are the Arabs, the North Africans, and possibly some Slavs. :cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley::cryinglaughsmiley:

The Slavs from Macedonia (FYROM) finally have a case for claiming Alexander the Great. :sass1:
 
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