Who Owns Mogadishu?

[Farm]

Boowe dont you understand that isnt an option because every inch of Somalia will be federated. Why would we accept to move the capital to another tribal land?

lol you are crying about PL doing something your regions are doing, first you have an illegal state called Galnus that doesn’t meet the two state requirement, secondly you want the capital to be in your tribal town where you can loot the entire state.... talk about hypocrisy.

You can’t have the capital and have a federal state within the capital you have to pick one for obvious reasons.

 

[towerheist]

lol you are crying about PL doing something your regions are doing, first you have an illegal state called Galnus that doesn’t meet the two state requirement, secondly you want the capital to be in your tribal town where you can loot the entire state.... talk about hypocrisy.

You can’t have the capital and have a federal state within the capital you have to pick one for obvious reasons.

It isnt Galmudug who is violating the constitution its PL. Are you relly that dense or is your reading comprehension that weak?

 

[towerheist]

lol you are crying about PL doing something your regions are doing, first you have an illegal state called Galnus that doesn’t meet the two state requirement, secondly you want the capital to be in your tribal town where you can loot the entire state.... talk about hypocrisy.

You can’t have the capital and have a federal state within the capital you have to pick one for obvious reasons.

But according to the constitution that is exactly what should be done.

 

[Farm]

It isnt Galmudug who is violating the constitution its PL. Are you relly that dense or is your reading comprehension that weak?

It seems you are the one who is having difficulty understanding a simple concept, I’ll break it down for you.

Two regions = a state.

Galnus is 1.5 regions maybe less since there are three different Galnus admins.

Puntland is more than two regions hence it being legal state.

This isn’t complicated.

 

[towerheist]

It seems you are the one who is having difficulty understanding a simple concept, I’ll break it down for you.

Two regions = can form a state.

Galnus is 1.5 regions maybe less since there are three different Galnus’s admins.

Puntland is more than two regions hence it being legal state.

This isn’t complicated.

Dont you understand that its the federal parliament that said all of Mudug and all of Galgaduud will form the state called Galmudug. Federation process gave Mudug to Galmudug.

PL is just as illegal because its borders are not based on the old 18 region. Yaab wlh so slow.

 

[towerheist]

They only understand bullets. Hala laayo simple as that

We unfortuneatly are heading that way. Well we know who can fight and who cant.

Lets just wait for those 22k foreign troops to leave. We will take it by force, and the best part is its totally legal.

 

[Farm]

Dont you understand that its the federal parliament that said all of Mudug and all of Galguduud will form the state called Galmudug. Federation process gave Mudug to Galmudug.

PL is just as illegal because its borders are not based on the old 18 region. Yaab wlh so slow.

That’s incorrect and shows your ignorance not only has the FGS stated “south Mudug” and GG are Galnus hence its name. The UN has also said the same thing...



UN statement
https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/0...ar-puntland-un-pledges-state-building-support

“I am convinced that the formation of other federal member states within Somalia is in the interest of Puntland and all Somalia. Puntland should not lose any territory that it currently administers. Final boundaries will be determined according to the process prescribed in the Provisional Federal Constitution.”

FGS-PL agreement.

I get you prefer lawlessness but don’t try to claim your state is legal in any way shape or form.

 

[towerheist]

That’s incorrect and shows your ignorance not only has the FGS stated “south Mudug” and GG are Galnus hence its name. The UN has also said the same thing...



UN statement
https://news.un.org/en/story/2014/0...n-pledges-state-building-support#.U_SXuvC4yuZ




FGS-PL agreement.

I get you prefer lawlessness but don’t try to claim your state is legal in any way shape or form.

Bro the constitution clearly forbids partitioning old states. If Galmudug is illegal so is PL, simple as that.

 

[SomaliWadaniSoldier]

Hawiye and Cadcad owns it.
But now Uganda and Burundi wants to claim ownership aswell

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Boowe dont you understand that isnt an option because every inch of Somalia will be federated. Why would we accept to move the capital to another tribal land?

war yaa ilahay yaqana

 

[Cam]

Its Abgaal territory but since its the capital it should be open to all Somali's like it used to be

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

Its Abgaal territory but since its the capital it should be open to all Somali's like it used to be

They can have it, but the capital has to be moved. The capital city will be controlled by the federal gov.

 

[Cam]

They can have it, but the capital has to be moved. The capital city will be controlled by the federal gov.

I don't diagree but move it where? If Jigjiga was in Somalia I would have suggested it.

 

[towerheist]

Its Abgaal territory but since its the capital it should be open to all Somali's like it used to be

What do you mean by open?

 

[Cam]

What do you mean by open?

Everyone should be able to live there in peace like before 91. It isn't the same anymore obviously.
Somalia and especially Mogadishu is cursed after the civil war hence the state it is in even now

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

I don't diagree but move it where? If Jigjiga was in Somalia I would have suggested it.

I seriously dont know, but we cant have i will enjoy the benefits a capital city brings but unukaleh. Malaaq @loyaan thinks we are talking about warsheekh or something.

 

[towerheist]

Everyone should be able to live there in peace like before 91. It isn't the same anymore obviously.
Somalia and especially Mogadishu is cursed after the civil war hence the state it is in even now

So everyone shouldnt be save to live in JL and PL? Why do you say only Muqdisho should be open for everyone? Before 90s everyone where able to live anywhere in Somalia, not just in Muqdisho.

 

[Cam]

I seriously dont know, but we cant have i will enjoy the benefits a capital city brings but unukaleh. Malaaq @loyaan thinks we are talking about warsheekh or something.

I agree but all of Somalia is messed up. The most peaceful clan in Somalia is Dir. Borama would make sense but that make shift "country" is occupying them.

So everyone shouldnt be save to live JL and PL? Why do you say only Muqdisho should be open for everyone? Before 90s everyone where able to live anywhere in Somalia, not just in Muqdisho.

Is Xamar not the capital? In every country people leave their land to live in the capital. It is normal. If you don't like that, then suggest a new capital. It is not that hard.

 

[towerheist]

I seriously dont know, but we cant have i will enjoy the benefits a capital city brings but unukaleh. Malaaq @loyaan thinks we are talking about warsheekh or something.

Waryaa we were bombed and invaded by foreign troops, we lived under terrorist organisation and god knows what other horrors we lived through. All of that because xamar was the capital. Now that peace and normal life is returning to the capital and its time to enjoy the "benefits" of being capital you want to take it away. After we suffered under the "benefits" of being the capital.

Is Xamar not the capital? In every country people leave their land to live in the capital. It is normal. If you don't like that, then suggest a new capital. It is not that hard.

In every country its normal for ppl of the capital to have senators and them electing their mayors/governors. Not runned by President who will sell Muqdisho cheap to get re-elected. You think Hawiye and reer Xamar of Muqdisho give a shit if few hundred thousand Somalis from other regions come to live with them. We are used to being a cosmopolitan city, its not about that. We just dont like how we are not represented in the upper house and we cant elect our leaders.

By the way capital city is symbolic in a federated country. There is no reason for it to represent everyone. If you are advocating for federalism based on qabiil then accept the fact that where ever you move the capital to its a tribal land.

 

[towerheist]

I agree but all of Somalia is messed up. The most peaceful clan in Somalia is Dir. Borama would make sense but that make shift "country" is occupying them.


Is Xamar not the capital? In every country people leave their land to live in the capital. It is normal. If you don't like that, then suggest a new capital. It is not that hard.

You want the benefits of centralism while having federalism. You cant have both, you gotta choose.