What will happen to your pre-Islamic Somali ancestors?

[Nawal]

Prove it, and remember Hadith isn't proof because the Quran says otherwise.
Anything that goes against the Quran isn't acceptable.


Again, where in the Quran does it say this?

I just told you the only sin that is not forgivable is Shirk or denying Allah. Any other sin you will pay your dues but God will never forgive you for not believing in him.

 

[embarassing]

I just told you the only sin that is not forgivable is Shirk or denying Allah. Any other sin you will pay your dues but God will never forgive you for not believing in him.

Not believing when Allah swt makes it clear to you, again not any imam, your parents or me. When Allah swt makes it clear to you, and only Allah swt knows who he made the message clear to. And you're right Allah swt may forgive any sin, that still doesn't make your initial claim true.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Prove it, and remember Hadith isn't proof because the Quran says otherwise.
Anything that goes against the Quran isn't acceptable.

Surah 33:26: And He brought those of the People of the Book [Qurayza] who supported them from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts, some of them you slew [q-t-l] and some you took captive.
Surah 33:27: And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden. Allah has power over everything.

This surah is confirming these hadiths

Narrated 'Aisha: When Allah's Apostle returned on the day (of the battle) of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench), he put down his arms and took a bath. Then Gabriel whose head was covered with dust, came to him saying, "You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Apostle said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Banu Qurayza. So Allah's Apostle went out towards them.
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:68

Then the Messenger of Allah commanded that ditches should be dug, so they were dug in the earth, and they were brought tied by their shoulders, and were beheaded. There were between seven hundred and eight hundred of them. The children who had not yet reached adolescence and the women were taken prisoner, and their wealth was seized.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - The Campaign against Banu Qurayzah

Then the apostle sent for Sa'd bin Zayd al-Ansari brother of bin Abdul-Ashhal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons.
Ibn Ishaq: 693
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The walls are closing in @embarassing Lets see you wiggle your way out of this.

 

[embarassing]

Surah 33:26: And He brought those of the People of the Book [Qurayza] who supported them from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts, some of them you slew [q-t-l] and some you took captive.
Surah 33:27: And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden. Allah has power over everything.

This surah is confirming these hadiths

Narrated 'Aisha: When Allah's Apostle returned on the day (of the battle) of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench), he put down his arms and took a bath. Then Gabriel whose head was covered with dust, came to him saying, "You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Apostle said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Banu Qurayza. So Allah's Apostle went out towards them.
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:68

Then the Messenger of Allah commanded that ditches should be dug, so they were dug in the earth, and they were brought tied by their shoulders, and were beheaded. There were between seven hundred and eight hundred of them. The children who had not yet reached adolescence and the women were taken prisoner, and their wealth was seized.
Tafsir Ibn Kathir - The Campaign against Banu Qurayzah

Then the apostle sent for Sa'd bin Zayd al-Ansari brother of bin Abdul-Ashhal with some of the captive women of Banu Qurayza to Najd and he sold them for horses and weapons.
Ibn Ishaq: 693
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The walls are closing in @embarassing Lets see you wiggle your way out of this.

Lool you said the prophet sws killed 900 unarmed people, how does what you just posted prove that?

And you wish "the walls were closing in", you don't realize how ignorant you sound.

 

[Nawal]

Not believing when Allah swt makes it clear to you, again not any imam, your parents or me. When Allah swt makes it clear to you, and only Allah swt knows who he made the message clear to. And you're right Allah swt may forgive any sin, that still doesn't make your initial claim true.

Everything I said is true. If denying allah is unforgivable yet committing a sin such as murder is forgivable I don't know what else to say to you.

 

[embarassing]

Everything I said is true. If denying allah is unforgivable yet committing a sin such as murder is forgivable I don't know what else to say to you.

It may be what you were taught, but it's not true. If you read the Quran you would know, most people don't read it they just memorize it in a language they don't understand.

 

[Nawal]

It may be what you were taught, but it's not true. If you read the Quran you would know, most people don't read it they just memorize it in a language they don't understand.

Fortunately I grew up in a muslim country where I had a religious mother who learned and taught the deen. I also went to an Islamic school so I definetly learned a lot. Most of what I learned actually helped me when it came to leaving my faith.

 

[embarassing]

Fortunately I grew up in a muslim country where I had a religious mother who learned and taught the deen. I also went to an Islamic school so I definetly learned a lot. Most of what I learned actually helped me when it came to leaving my faith.

Based off your comments it seems all you learned was arab supremacy and not the deen. I can't blame you I'm sure that would help anyone leave. Otherwise you would've had more credible arguments against it.

 

[Ferrari]

So your ancestors will be thrown into the fire but it will be safe?!??

The prophets father and grand father are going to hell, prophet abrhama's dad will go to hell. Noah's son will go to hell. Islam isn't about who u know sxb, Allah is just, u reject him, naar.

 

[Nawal]

Based off your comments it seems all you learned was arab supremacy and not the deen. I can't blame you I'm sure that would help anyone leave. Otherwise you would've had more credible arguments against it.

lol I didn't grow up in an Arab country if that's what you think. What does Arab supremacy have to do with the fact that god forgives murder but not shirk? I made my point very clear and you couldn't argue the fact that no other sin is more grave than shirk or denying allah.

 

[embarassing]

lol I didn't grow up in an Arab country if that's what you think. What does Arab supremacy have to do with the fact that god forgives murder but not shirk? I made my point very clear and you couldn't argue the fact that no other sin is more grave than shirk or denying allah.

It doesn't matter where you lived people learn that bs all over the world. It's some Arab supremacy nonsense to believe you have to support an evil person who is Muslim in name over a righteous non-muslim. There is no basis for any of that in the Quran. Learn what shirk is first. I briefly explained it already.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Lool you said the prophet sws killed 900 unarmed people, how does what you just posted prove that?

And you wish "the walls were closing in", you don't realize how ignorant you sound.

You are dense. The battle they are describing is the massacre of the Banu Qurayza Jews in Khaybar. Estimates agreed to by everyone are that 600-900 boys and men were murdered. You are a joke.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

The prophets father and grand father are going to hell, prophet abrhama's dad will go to hell. Noah's son will go to hell. Islam isn't about who u know sxb, Allah is just, u reject him, naar.

He's like Donald Trump. If you don't show loyalty, you're fired!

 

[Ferrari]

He's like Donald Trump. If you don't show loyalty, you're fired!

Except GOD has that right because h created ur ungrateful ass.

 

[embarassing]

You are dense. The battle they are describing is the massacre of the Banu Qurayza Jews in Khaybar. Estimates agreed to by everyone are that 600-900 boys and men were murdered. You are a joke.

Lol you can't prove it don't get mad at me. The verses from the Quran you posted didn't support your claim and I didn't bother to read the Hadith you posted. You're the one acting like a joker, you need to try harder.

 

[Asma]

Lol you can't prove it don't get mad at me. The verses from the Quran you posted didn't support your claim and I didn't bother to read the Hadith you posted. You're the one acting like a joker, you need to try harder.

Are you a Quran only Muslim?

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Lol you can't prove it don't get mad at me. The verses from the Quran you posted didn't support your claim and I didn't bother to read the Hadith you posted. You're the one acting like a joker, you need to try harder.

You didn't bother with the hadiths? Those hadiths don't disagree with the verse. I thought you were against contradictory hadiths. So everything is fake news and things don't mean what they say?

 

[embarassing]

Are you a Quran only Muslim?

More like a Quran first type. Hadiths are stories passed down over time. They could be right could be wrong.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

h created ur ungrateful ass

Prove it. And the fact that he allegedly says that isn't proof.

 

[embarassing]

You didn't bother with the hadiths? Those hadiths don't disagree with the verse. I thought you were against contradictory hadiths. So everything is fake news and things don't mean what they say?

wtf are you talking about? I told you from the start don't bother with the Hadith you're only wasting your own energy.