What will happen to your pre-Islamic Somali ancestors?

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Allah swt doesn't punish people without making the message clear to them.

Allah is like a gangsta from LA. Demands respect and fucks you up if you don't give it.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Less than a year ago.

Did you retain some Islamic habits like I did? I.e. not drinking etc.

 

[Asma]

Allah swt doesn't punish people without making the message clear to them.

We don't know what will happen to those people except they will be dealt with justly. All the hadiths about dajjal are nonsensical and contradictory. Everything you guys are mocking Islam for are irrelevant.

Is the message really that clear though? Not many people can understand ancient Arabic. Nobody has seen Gabriel deliver the message to Muhammad. Nobody alive today has seen any type of miracle by Allah. So, I ask again is the message clear?

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

All the hadiths about dajjal are nonsensical and contradictory

OK sheikh @embarassing glad you settled the issue. Run that by your dad.

 

[Asma]

Did you retain some Islamic habits like I did? I.e. not drinking etc.

Apart from not praying 5 times a day anymore, I pretty much still live like a Muslim . I didn't leave the faith for lifestyle reason, it was a heart wrenching decision after delving into the scriptures.

 

[World]

Less than a year ago.

So whilst you was a member of this forum

 

[Asma]

So whilst you was a member of this forum

Yes.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Apart from not praying 5 times a day anymore, I pretty much still live like a Muslim . I didn't leave the faith for lifestyle reason, it was a heart wrenching decision after delving into the scriptures.

Did anti-Islam media force you to research it? In my case I wanted to defend Islam against the "bigots" so I did research on Quran, hadith and the example of the prophet. Then I disagreed with it myself.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Yes.

Did other atheists on here have an impact on your decision?

 

[Asma]

Did anti-Islam media force you to research it? In my case I wanted to defend Islam against the "bigots" so I did research on Quran, hadith and the example of the prophet. Then I disagreed with it myself.

No, I believed the anti Islam sentiment was one of the signs of the last days of earth. A person in my life made me want to learn more about the religion. Everything they were saying wasn't really news to me, however I think I was able to sort of ignore the unpleasant bits of Islam. I kept arguing with this person a lot about Islam, I decided to learn more to counteract them, this is when I learnt firstly the cruelty of Muhammad in the hadiths. It then snowballed from there on.

 

[Asma]

Did other atheists on here have an impact on your decision?

I did actually make a thread asking the atheist on here what made them leave Islam. At that point I was like 99.99% not a Muslim anymore.

 

[YoungFarah]

I did actually make a thread asking the atheist on here what made them leave Islam. At that point I was like 99.99% not a Muslim anymore.

I'm guessing I'm at around 90% but my indoctrination is holding me back

 

[Asma]

I'm guessing I'm at around 90% but my indoctrination is holding me back

Hell was the thing that held me back. Just to do what feels right for you. If it's Islam, good, If it's atheism, that's also good, as long as whatever you do doesn't harm others.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

Yh and she's a very respectful one

Not a good quality to have if you're a Somali atheist surrounded by a mouth-breathing Islamic herd. Being honest and right to the point with them is the best way forward.

 

[ArchBishopofAtheism]

I'm guessing I'm at around 90% but my indoctrination is holding me back

Look up the story of Dul Qarnayn in the Quran. He's the guy who traveled to the western "edge" of the world and "found" the sun setting into a giant black hole. That should do it for you.

 

[Asma]

Not a good quality to have if you're a Somali atheist surrounded by a mouth-breathing Islamic herd. Being honest and right to the point with them is the best way forward.

Ever heard of the saying you catch more flies with honey than vinegar?

 

[Joesph Muktaar]

They were committing shirk left and right, worshipping Waaq and other made up gods. They also knew about the oneness of god because Christianity and Judaism were around.

Good question,

Allah mentions in the Quran
We have sent every single nation a messenger, Their message was worrship God and Avoid the Taghut.

Sheikh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab mentions that This Taghut are the False gods. According to Imam at tabari that every religion on this earth had prophet, so this means the Pre Islamic Somalis did have a prophet, some obey and alot didn't like how it goes. For those didn't reiceve the message like for example the time imbetween Jesus and Muhammad time, are going to recieve a test.

So The people who did receive the message but didn't obey are going to hell, and those who didn't recieve the message will go do Test.

 

[Joesph Muktaar]

Luckily for you there is no dajjal. It's been 1439 years since Muhammad made the pilgrimage to Yathrib and use to tell his companions how dajall is just round the corner. Well where is he?

Listen up, before dajjal comes they will be 50 minor signs of the day of jugdement, when one sign comes up we are closer to Dajjal's time. Dajjal is part of the major signs not the minor.

 

[Joesph Muktaar]

What a dumb test. God creates humans with logic and reason. This logic tells us not to go into a fire pit because it's going to hurt. However God wants to test us by telling us to voluntarily throw ourselves into a fire for him. Essentially this is the same as the human sacrifices people use to offer for pagan gods. What is the difference between those pagan gods and Allah. Why is god so blood thirsty, what does he gain by this test? Blind obedience? Illogical decisions? What is the purpose of it all?

Yes, God created us with logic so we could understand his existence, The differnce between Pagan gods and the true God is they will be fighting each other for eternity. God is not blood thristy, he gave you free will and allow to disbelieve in him which still makes him All good. He doesn't gain anything because he doesn't need anyone.

You are putting yourself into the fire not God, Your free will causes you to go into the fire. It like me saying don't go into the fire, and you say I am going in, that what you are doing.

 

[embarassing]

Is the message really that clear though? Not many people can understand ancient Arabic. Nobody has seen Gabriel deliver the message to Muhammad. Nobody alive today has seen any type of miracle by Allah. So, I ask again is the message clear?

I don't think you need to speak Arabic at all to understand the message, whether it's clear to people only Allah swt knows.

OK sheikh @embarassing glad you settled the issue. Run that by your dad.