What went wrong with Somali integration to west?

[CABDULWALI XASAN.]

When my family arrived to the states they lived in the hood. My uncles and aunts that arrived here as young adults didn't really turn out as well compared to their younger siblings that were preteens when they arrived.



I was a bit lucky growing up because my parents had some close relationships with my uncle's and aunts that turned out pretty well.

One thing they did that stood out to me was that they moved away for college. At the time they were all living in the hood. Most somalis tend to just go to a local community college just to avoid taking out loans while still staying in the hoods they were raised in.



I honestly believe that decision to move away for school played a role on how they turned out. If you look at AAs for example a bunch of them legit do the same thing. That's why you can find a lot of them complaining about student loan debt. They graduated with a degree, broke into the middle class, and now have to deal with some debt. I asked my uncle recently about his and he told me he payed his off after 7 years of working.my other aunts and uncles said they paid it off within 10-12 years.

@AbdiFreedom do you think if most young Somali men moved away for college we would have higher graduation rates?

Thats the student loan scam, thats why you take advantage of programs and do well in school. Opt for community college and get your fafsa done. Debt like that will be a shackle to you especially when 99% goes to interest

 

[Kisame]

Thats the student loan scam, thats why you take advantage of programs and do well in school. Opt for community college and get your fafsa done. Debt like that will be a shackle to you especially when 99% goes to interest

Eh the debt shit doesn't bother me that much in the long run. My relatives could have paid off their loans sooner but they started families quickly after they graduated. The loans weren't even that hard to pay off since they all work in stem fields.
Their situations would have seemed worse if they couldn't land any decent paying jobs.

 

[ZBR]

Eh the debt shit doesn't bother me that much in the long run. My relatives could have paid off their loans sooner but they started families quickly after they graduated. The loans weren't even that hard to pay off since they all work in stem fields.
Their situations would have seemed worse if they couldn't land any decent paying jobs.

Just know that riba isn’t a money trap but it’s mortgaging your time and consequently your lifespan away leading you to wasting your life away into abject failure

 

[ZBR]

Dumb thing to say, why not take advantage of all percs west have to offer, like freedom to do almost everything you want.

You are being ungrateful.

We should have higher goals other than eating and drinking like cattle

 

[AbrahamFreedom]

When my family arrived to the states they lived in the hood. My uncles and aunts that arrived here as young adults didn't really turn out as well compared to their younger siblings that were preteens when they arrived.



I was a bit lucky growing up because my parents had some close relationships with my uncle's and aunts that turned out pretty well.

One thing they did that stood out to me was that they moved away for college. At the time they were all living in the hood. Most somalis tend to just go to a local community college just to avoid taking out loans while still staying in the hoods they were raised in.



I honestly believe that decision to move away for school played a role on how they turned out. If you look at AAs for example a bunch of them legit do the same thing. That's why you can find a lot of them complaining about student loan debt. They graduated with a degree, broke into the middle class, and now have to deal with some debt. I asked my uncle recently about his and he told me he payed his off after 7 years of working.my other aunts and uncles said they paid it off within 10-12 years.

@AbdiFreedom do you think if most young Somali men moved away for college we would have higher graduation rates?

I dont think that's necessary. They just have to start prioritizing associating with cadaans and model minorities. Then you fill your days and make yourself too busy for Somali distractions. Somali youth are too accessible with every kind of Somali. I knew of two very smart Somali students growing up who are now in jail for very serious crimes. Some others who got influenced by others who didn't take life seriously. Your life can go terribly wrong if you get Somali-distracted at such a vulnerable age.

 

[Testo 21]

Very sad situation, There is 3 type of Somali brackets.
1, those who study/academics

2. xaamali iyo taxi,bus

3. Unemployed, lazy and those dont want to work and contribute.

 

[Gracias]

Very sad situation, There is 3 type of Somali brackets.
1, those who study/academics

2. xaamali iyo taxi,bus

3. Unemployed, lazy and those dont want to work and contribute.

This isn’t true. Maybe for you and the losers you know but not all of us. Don’t project

 

[Testo 21]

This isn’t true. Maybe for you and the losers you know but not all of us. Don’t project

All i can say is allah will provide for its servants

 

[Idilinaa]

Very sad situation, There is 3 type of Somali brackets.
1, those who study/academics

2. xaamali iyo taxi,bus

3. Unemployed, lazy and those dont want to work and contribute.

1. Those who study and graduate go onto become professional's who are usually engineers, doctors, lawyers, nurses, accountants etc

1. Somalis work diverse jobs. They will even take on multiple jobs and even run small businesses.

3. Being unemployed doesn't imply that one is lazy. Unless they have health issues or face employment barriers most of them work. This is really tied to the job market in any given area/country.

How do we know? A Somali will travel to another region or country just to find employment oppurtunities or they will try to escape unemployment by becoming self-employed.

 

[cunug3aad]

Very sad situation, There is 3 type of Somali brackets.
1, those who study/academics

2. xaamali iyo taxi,bus

3. Unemployed, lazy and those dont want to work and contribute.

Is there any other option these are all i know of

 

[Testo 21]

Is there any other option these are all i know of

Broski bad ha isku gelin, its hard out there. Stay safe

 

[Basra]

All i can say is allah will provide for its servants

Category # 3 then?

 

[Testo 21]

Category # 3 then? View attachment 375755

im all good alhamdulillah , worry your next month rent yarey

 

[Basra]

im all good alhamdulillah , worry your next month rent yarey

govt is taking care of me alhamdhulillah

 

[Mohamedamiin120]

The Mexicans have integrated very smoothly, they are a massive part of America's economy and culture. but for what? They build damn near everything in the states but god forbid if the halftime show has some Spanish speaking singer. The Asians are damn near White in mannerism and they still get looked down upon by alot of Americans.

What's the point of assimilation? Who are we pleasing?

 

[Testo 21]

govt is taking care of me alhamdhulillah View attachment 375762

Section 8 is better than being homeless

 

[Basra]

Section 8 is better than being homeless

Amen! Thank you God for the Govt help

 

[sh-89]

The Somali diaspora issue is not intreg

When my family arrived to the states they lived in the hood. My uncles and aunts that arrived here as young adults didn't really turn out as well compared to their younger siblings that were preteens when they arrived.



I was a bit lucky growing up because my parents had some close relationships with my uncle's and aunts that turned out pretty well.

One thing they did that stood out to me was that they moved away for college. At the time they were all living in the hood. Most somalis tend to just go to a local community college just to avoid taking out loans while still staying in the hoods they were raised in.



I honestly believe that decision to move away for school played a role on how they turned out. If you look at AAs for example a bunch of them legit do the same thing. That's why you can find a lot of them complaining about student loan debt. They graduated with a degree, broke into the middle class, and now have to deal with some debt. I asked my uncle recently about his and he told me he payed his off after 7 years of working.my other aunts and uncles said they paid it off within 10-12 years.

@AbdiFreedom do you think if most young Somali men moved away for college we would have higher graduation rates?

No I think this is broader issue. Enrollment is down because Unis don't train kids for careers and trades, so young kids don't want to go to Umi anymore. Do you think a Somali will go far with a degree in Political Science? U less they go to law school etc. White people can barely get jobs.

Most people who want money go into medicine, Nursing (for women but ita a good career for men too if they don't care), even some stem are useless now like Biology.

A truck driver makes more than a Nurse/Teacher and combine the debt you see why ppl don't want to go anymore. Now I value education but the model is outdated. Now adding A.I it has gotten worse.

Somalis are like the canary in the coal mines. Usually we are the ones that warn the rest of society something is going wrong in society.

Moving to a college may make the debt even worse than living with your fam unless you live in a dangerous area. But this is a serious problem now and everyone knows.