What is the most dangerous Ideology to wipe out the Somali nation

Most dangerous Ideological threat to Somalis


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Jiron

wanaag
NABADOON
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Qabyaald is the single most prominent threat and the common denominator of all our collective problems as a nation and as a people. The rest pale in comparison and it's not even close. let us stop making excuses and look for effective ways in combating this problem once and for all :)
 
logically that dosent make sense, if every clan is working towards bettering there clan the end result will be a better country as a bi product, as for extremism yeah that speaks for itself however there are cases of salafism working in countries like Saudi Arabia, so no it won't necessarily bring the downfall of a nation


"It wouldn't be bad if Somalis didn't obsess over it to the point of sacrificing their country." why? not everyone values county>ethnic group and it isn't a clear cut one better than the other thing, its more subjective as we see through the world ethnic conflicts happen it isn't qabil thats the problem but many times the country in this case and how it was setup as seen in many places like say the balkans or what the Kurds are currently facing, originally somalia was setup in a democratic way where qabil wouldn't be much of a factor anyways but dictatorship and centralization as shown in our history justifies the aftermath, your looking at the destruction afterwards and not the system causing it


If every SOMALI does not value a country but only their clan, how many countries should we curve out of somalia based on the clan? Isn;t that twisted logic what leads Some Isaqs to claim Hargeisa and its vicinity is a new country when they know other somali clans in their neighbourhood do not accept their clan based claim? Why would a somali care what some brittish dude drew on a map a century plus ago?

Saxib, this argument of somali clans being entitled to anything when it comes to Somalia needs to completely disappear. The country is shared and Somali clans always had their own settlements that became small towns and big cities. Every clan can still dominate their backward towns with no one else among somalis bothering them over their local affairs. But Somalia is bigger and more imporant that any clan you want to mention.

SOMALIS NEED TO WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH AND DESTORY ALL WHO VALUE CLAN OVER COUNTRY.
 

Tukraq

VIP
If every SOMALI does not value a country but only their clan, how many countries should we curve out of somalia based on the clan? Isn;t that twisted logic what leads Some Isaqs to claim Hargeisa and its vicinity is a new country when they know other somali clans in their neighbourhood do not accept their clan based claim? Why would a somali care what some brittish dude drew on a map a century plus ago?

Saxib, this argument of somali clans being entitled to anything when it comes to Somalia needs to completely disappear. The country is shared and Somali clans always had their own settlements that became small towns and big cities. Every clan can still dominate their backward towns with no one else among somalis bothering them over their local affairs. But Somalia is bigger and more imporant that any clan you want to mention.

SOMALIS NEED TO WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH AND DESTORY ALL WHO VALUE CLAN OVER COUNTRY.
its the concept, if every somali cares and focuses on benefiting there clan or if every American works on benefiting there cities or if every Canadian works on only benefiting themselves, the end result will be a positive for all in net terms, valuing and looking out for yourself and your group is a positive thing infact, if issaqs focus on Hargeisa there will be a better haregeisa and thus a better somalia, the problem is the governmental system not assisting this and using qabil to our countries benefit, issaqs focusing on, investing in and bettering only Hargeisa is a good thing theoretically however its best when everyone is doing that, every clan should be developing there regions marehan should put effort into gedo, MJ into puntland, overall all these pieces working to benefit themselves inturn improves the country as a whole, humans are selfish and inherently work towards there self intreats, thats why the country shouldn't get in the way with dumb centralization and unity dogma, in the US its everyone for them self model not unity, everyone is selfish and works for there self intreats and intern the nation as a whole improves
 

Macalin M

Out here
panafricanism dosent even exist? and its also not really a threat as increased trade is always economically positive
For us it’s perfect tbh. They need to go through a port to deliver their goods. And we managed to inherit a whole lot of coastline.
 

Tukraq

VIP
For us it’s perfect tbh. They need to go through a port to deliver their goods. And we managed to inherit a whole lot of coastline.
yup a coast is the most important thing to economic success for a country, which is why I don't get the Ethiopia hype, never heard of a successful landlocked economy, thats even worse than having no resources, our coast will give us crazy prosperity if we play our cards right
 

Macalin M

Out here
yup a coast is the most important thing to economic success for a country, which is why I don't get the Ethiopia hype, never heard of a successful landlocked economy, thats even worse than having no resources, our coast will give us crazy prosperity if we play our cards right
Weed out the leeches In our politics and it’s game over for everyone.
 

Teflon

Inactive
VIP
yup a coast is the most important thing to economic success for a country, which is why I don't get the Ethiopia hype, never heard of a successful landlocked economy, thats even worse than having no resources, our coast will give us crazy prosperity if we play our cards right

djibouti acts as Ethiopia's port. Most of Ethiopian imports go to Djibouti first
 

Tukraq

VIP
djibouti acts as Ethiopia's port. Most of Ethiopian imports go to Djibouti first
Djibouti is a nobody especially economically, we have so many competing ports that well easily lower the price to a point they can't make a profit, Ethiopia would have no choice
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we should also be focused on reaching markets like chad, South Sudan,uganda, Burundi, and the Central African republic not just Ethiopia, buy out competing there current suppliers with lower prices
 

Tukraq

VIP
Weed out the leeches In our politics and it’s game over for everyone.
I don't think its a matter of weeding out leeches but changing the system that allowed it to happen in the first place, our government is structurally weak and non representative of its constituents and thats what they exploit, we need a proper representative civilian federal government system/constitution, to which we can then move onto the building institutions that will keep it in check and balanced, not allowing the leeches in
 

VixR

Veritas
Extremism and destruction of environment. Somalia is nowhere near any of the other choices mattering, except tribalism, but they won’t forget their tribes so that’s useless to consider.

I’d love to see a Somalia where socialism/high taxation of geeljires, liberalism, feminism and globalization are even possible, much less a “threat”. Who are you kidding.
 
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