What is the general consensus among sheikhs in regards to free will?
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I can't read the whole thing however I skimmed through it and it's the usual gaalo shenanigans they take the most outdated not used tafsiir from someone who's not native in the Arabic language and then say it's a fact if you don't see their agenda and biases then I'm sorry for you
The knowledge of predestination is meaningless if you can’t defy it or disprove it. If God wills everything then you can’t distinguish that from your free will, they become the same.
Actually Free Will becomes a simple prediction if God knows about the future.
Free will + qadr = prediction or foreknowledge
But God does also create our choices since our choices are within his creation, not separate.
Actually Free Will becomes a simple prediction if God knows about the future.
Free will + qadr = prediction or foreknowledge
But God does also create our choices since our choices are within his creation, not separate.
Well reasoned.
I don't like somali women but it would be hypocritical of me to preach about ethnic purity yet run off with an ajnabi.
Ethno-nationalism doesn't make sense especially as a Somali athiest. Why would you be proud of being from an ethnicity, which is something you had no control over. What your ancestors have done whether good or bad , has nothing to do with you. So no need for this pride. Reconsider ajnabi...
The pride in culture, language and traditions doesn't make sense to you?
The pride in the one who created all that makes more sense
(Sahih International)
Indeed, this is a reminder, so whoever wills may take to his Lord a way.
-Sura Al-Muzzammil, Ayah 19
(Sahih International)
And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place.
-Sura Al-Kahf, Ayah 29
Indeed, this is a reminder, so whoever wills may take to his Lord a way.
-Sura Al-Muzzammil, Ayah 19
(Sahih International)
And say, "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve." Indeed, We have prepared for the wrongdoers a fire whose walls will surround them. And if they call for relief, they will be relieved with water like murky oil, which scalds [their] faces. Wretched is the drink, and evil is the resting place.
-Sura Al-Kahf, Ayah 29
I'd want our people to keep our culture, language and traditions alive of course. But you as an athiest, would have a hard time since all of what we do is intertwined with our religion.
You mixing with others doesn't mean that Somali culture, language and tradition will be lost. On the contrary, since you've left the religion you'd help preserve us by not procreating with a Somali. Ajnabi women will be less headache too kkk.
Emotional reasons? Really? Tell me more about them. I'm not a Muslim for one reason and one reason only. There is no evidence for Islam being from a supernatural being. In fact it's as unremarkable as about any other religion there is today. And listening to Muslims try to explain why theirs is the true faith often involves stretching the meaning of Quranic verses far beyond what any tafsir is suggesting. The same mental gymnastics other religious people perform. Honestly have you never listened to Christian proselytizers explain why Christianity is the one true faith? But since you were born into a Muslim family you have no problem believing that that Islam is the one true religion. Just like every other religious person who's ever lived.
You want to know what's retarded? Actually believing that Muhammad's night journey or Noah's boat trip could have possibly happened.
Somali culture is not closely intertwined with religion, most somali nomads didn't even know how to pray.
I'm talking about our values..
You mean the six articles of faith? Please rephrase your sentence if you don't I might be having a huge fucking brainfart.
You think two pictures will prove your point? This is a fact my grandfather even told me he didn't know anything about the deen until he left badiyo.
I'm talking about what Somalis value culturally, it's more closer to Islam than secularism and i'm not talking about articles of faith or praying. Every people have their own set of values and yours is now more closer to cadaan than somali.
My core set of values are exactly the same as any other somali muslim or non muslim as we have all been raised from the same cultural background. I am closer to somali than cadaan.
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Y'all are arguing about who should go with who online, when none of y'all will go for each other. Why are you guys wasting time bickering on things you have no control over? That's dumb.
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