what is an ethnic somali?

[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

it is based on genetics. social is a factor but genetics is important too

I did my 23andme and happend to share of iame haplogroup as the Bantu people. Will you consider me an ethnic Somali? Its about how I identify myself.

 

[pirater]

I just did my 23andme and happen to share the same haplogroup as the Bantu people. Will you consider me an ethnic Somali? Its about how I identify myself.

I don't consider you somali. get out of our country

 

[Mujahid Nur Marehan]

I don't consider you somali. get out of our country

I was jowkibg I'm awaiting my DNA results but I don't want to make any anti ajnabi laws incase I happen to have Bantu or other sub Sharan fore fathers.

 

[4head]

There's no such thing as ethnic Somali.

Ethnicity is a social construct.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

I do beleive

Ethnic Somali to mean cushitic somali, Madow,Reer Xamar,Baajun reer Baraawe.

Madowweyne, Baajun Barwani and reer Baraawe have cushitic blood in them and also share somali culture to some extent.

 

[pirater]

I do beleive

Ethnic Somali to mean cushitic somali, Madow,Reer Xamar,Baajun reer Baraawe.

Madowweyne, Baajun Barwani and reer Baraawe have cushitic blood in them and also share somali culture to some extent.

So that means every group in Somalia is ethnically somali?

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

So that means every group in Somalia is ethnically somali?

Yes they have lived for close to a millenium apart from the somali Madow who some were brought as slaves.But Somali Madow have somali cushitic blood.

 

[Sheikh Kulkuli]

 

[Periplus]

I think the confusion with what is Somali comes from the demonym of Somalia being "Somalis".

Laymans terms: A citizen of Somalia is called Somali but at the same time an ethnic Somali is called Somali.

Either we change the term of which we refer to Somalis to dreaded "Somalian", in order to remove confusion or we stay arguing over what and who is Somali.

Because if Somali citizens are called Somalian, then a cad cad is a Somalian but not Somali. However, if Somali citizens are called Somali, then a bantu is a Somali by definition but not a Somali by practicality.

 

[pirater]

I think the confusion with what is Somali comes from the demonym of Somalia being "Somalis".

Laymans terms: A citizen of Somalia is called Somali but at the same time an ethnic Somali is called Somali.

Either we change the term of which we refer to Somalis to dreaded "Somalian", in order to remove confusion or we stay arguing over what and who is Somali.

Because if Somali citizens are called Somalian, then a cad cad is a Somalian but not Somali. However, if Somali citizens are called Somali, then a bantu is a Somali by definition but not a Somali by practicality.

I say we should change our name completely. although I like the name, it's really annoying and stupid. why name a country after an ethnic group. that's like naming Ethiopia "Amharia". it doesnt work. it allows for other groups to claim somali. a white man could be born in Somalia and no one can say he's not Somali

 

[Material]

I say we should change our name completely. although I like the name, it's really annoying and stupid. why name a country after an ethnic group. that's like naming Ethiopia "Amharia". it doesnt work. it allows for other groups to claim somali. a white man could be born in Somalia and no one can say he's not Somali

They are a minority and will remain so

 

[Periplus]

I say we should change our name completely. although I like the name, it's really annoying and stupid. why name a country after an ethnic group. that's like naming Ethiopia "Amharia". it doesnt work. it allows for other groups to claim somali. a white man could be born in Somalia and no one can say he's not Somali

That is a good point but I also want to add this.

Somalia is a melting pot by African standards. The intermarriage Somalis have done within themselves and other ethnicities has made the term "ethnic Somali" ambiguous.

Many, if not most Somalis, have at least one Arab-Somali family member, whether it is an aunt or a distant relative. Many in the south have an cad cad or banjuni or even an Italian relative.

If the definition didn't bother us back then, why now. It's important to look at both sides.

 

[pirater]

That is a good point but I also want to add this.

Somalia is a melting pot by African standards. The intermarriage Somalis have done within themselves and other ethnicities has made the term "ethnic Somali" ambiguous.

Many, if not most Somalis, have at least one Arab-Somali family member, whether it is an aunt or a distant relative. Many in the south have an cad cad or banjuni or even an Italian relative.

If the definition didn't bother us back then, why now. It's important to look at both sides.

maybe it's cause my family is baadiye but I'm certain that I don't have any blood-related non-somali relatives.

 

[Periplus]

maybe it's cause my family is baadiye but I'm certain that I don't have any blood-related non-somali relatives.

Even for baadiye, one of your uncles or your grandfather's brother might have married a non-Somali. They might not be a blood relative but part of your family.

Not many, if any, country in Africa can say that. This is why I find Somalia very unique, its that we've truly been multicultural for centuries. Until recently, there was no social taboos with intermarriage, as long as your significant other was a good person, no-one had a problem.

 

[Fadedaf]

Ethnic Somalis
Somali bantu
Bajuni’s
Reer Xamari’s/barawani’s
Few Indians

 

[Fadedaf]

Ethnic Somali is Muslim. And speaks the Somali language and identifies himself as Somali first, no matter what other ethnic background his fore fathers came from.

 

[Fadedaf]

Yes it's all about self identification. For example as long as they are willing to integrate and contribute, they are ethnic Somalis.

 

[Fadedaf]

There's no such thing as ethnic Somali.

Ethnicity is a social construct.

 

[Rocktheboat]

That is a good point but I also want to add this.

Somalia is a melting pot by African standards. The intermarriage Somalis have done within themselves and other ethnicities has made the term "ethnic Somali" ambiguous.

Many, if not most Somalis, have at least one Arab-Somali family member, whether it is an aunt or a distant relative. Many in the south have an cad cad or banjuni or even an Italian relative.

If the definition didn't bother us back then, why now. It's important to look at both sides.

Most of us do not have arab relatives

 

[Periplus]

Most of us do not have arab relatives

Does not have to be Arab. So you're going to tell me no-one in your extended family for generations never married an ajnabi or cad cad or bantu or arab.

Stop the cap man. It does not make you any less Somali to admit it.