what is an ethnic somali?

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The 5 major clans are related you moron.
You are not one of us, why does it concern you what we identify as, and who we marry.
Stop telling us what we are

Because I disagree with you, I'm not Somali.

The debate on this thread is settled then. Anyone who disagrees with Fadedaf is not ethnic Somali confirmed.
 

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Being somali is lineage a non somali man cant be somali or his child cuz he married somali woman

I did not disagree with that. In fact, I think the main source of this problem is the fact that we refer to citizens of Somalia and our ethnicity with the same term. One of those has to change.

Simple solution: Change the demonym of Somalia, so as to not cause confusion between nationality and ethnicity.
 
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We have to change the name of the country. Have 5 recognised ethnicities in our country with equal rights. Somali, Somali bantu, benadaris, oromos, bejunis. When we do that, clannism will die out.
 
We have to change the name of the country. Have 5 recognised ethnicities in our country with equal rights. Somali, Somali bantu, benadaris, oromos, bejunis. When we do that, clannism will die out.
What clannism tribe and clan shouldnt be abolish and also non somali ppl shouldnt rule or claim ownership of somalia
Nor have politics in somalia cuz it is not their lands and we shouldnt country name cuz nationality is foreigner to somali language
 
I did not disagree with that. In fact, I think the main source of this problem is the fact that we refer to citizens of Somalia and our ethnicity with the same term. One of those has to change.

Simple solution: Change the demonym of Somalia, so as to not cause confusion between nationality and ethnicity.
We shouldnt chnage name of our lands those non somalia can identify their own identitty and not somali nationality is foreign to somali language and i think was invented by europeans
 

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There no such thing pure if everyone is mix since Adam and hawa

Almost every ethnik Somali on 23andMe gets 99-100% Somali.

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The 5 major clans are related you moron.
You are not one of us, why does it concern you what we identify as, and who we marry.
Stop telling us what we are
The small outcasted Sab clans like Madhibaan are actually related to Hawiye from Gorgate. I consider anyone who's ancestors lived in Somalia for over 500 years and have over 90%.
 

Apollo

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Anybody who scores 25% or above for 'Somali' on DNA tests.
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:lol:

That would be like 95% of Somalia including many Somali Bantus, lmao! Only Jubba Valley ultra-Jar3rs and a handful of Bajunis probably wouldn't make the cut.

Over 98% Somali on 23andMe, lol, many ethnic Somalis would even fail that standard. I think only 70% of Somalia would get over 98% on 23andMe.
 

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That is a good point but I also want to add this.

Somalia is a melting pot by African standards. The intermarriage Somalis have done within themselves and other ethnicities has made the term "ethnic Somali" ambiguous.

Many, if not most Somalis, have at least one Arab-Somali family member, whether it is an aunt or a distant relative. Many in the south have an cad cad or banjuni or even an Italian relative.

If the definition didn't bother us back then, why now. It's important to look at both sides.

Sorry but to those giving qashin to this point. I have a question for you.

Name me countries in Africa in which other ethnicities have better integrated historically than Somalia?

Look at South Africa, Zimbabwe, Kenya etc. their people do not interact let alone intermarry. Whereas in Somalia, like it or not, ethnic minorities never had a problem marrying Somalis in most cases.

This is a genuine question and I want to hear the answers.
 

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