What if the Afroasiatic World United? Greater Arabia/Israel/Somalia

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  1. Apollo

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    It's a silly thought experiment.

    But the Beta Israel spoke a Cushitic language a few hundred years ago. They are not ethnically Semitic.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayla_dialect
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwara_dialect

    The same is true for most Habeshas. They used to speak Agaw Cushitic languages in the past.
     
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  2. Timo Jareer and proud

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    Just looks like a big ass Muslim caliphate.
     
  3. Tukraq

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  4. Timo Jareer and proud

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    Hebeshas are assimilated Semites nit assimilated Cushites. They were originally Semitic but got absorbed by Agew Cushites but ended up keeping their language.
     
  5. Apollo

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    They were an Agaw population that switched over to the language of Yemenite soldiers and traders. They were not largely Semitic at any point. It's similar to how Maghrebis switched to Arabic without changing their Berber roots much.

    PS. Yemenis themselves also language shifted to Arabic from languages like this:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Razihi_language
     
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  6. Tukraq

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    so they changed and no they are Semitic, case closed like I said languages are not static
     
  7. Apollo

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    About as much as African-Americans are Germanic. Lmao.
     
  8. Tukraq

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    language group wise they defiantly are
     
  9. Apollo

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    It doesn't matter. Language grouping can be misleading about the origins of groups. Hungarians are ethnically similar to Austrians and Slovaks (Germanics and Slavs), but are in the language family of Central Asians.

    Same with Anatolian Turks (Turkey) who are quite close to Greeks and Armenians, not to Tuvans.
     
  10. Tukraq

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    language groups to me has nothing to do with the origins of groups lol
     
  11. Apollo

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    They have. Most of the time they match ancestry perfectly, except for a few groups who are heavy language shifters being inside language families (e.g. African-Americans in the Germanic language family for example).
     
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  12. Tukraq

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    maybe for the old world but like you mentioned all of the americas speak English and Spanish while the ethnic make up is of so many different combinations to the point it might not even exist tbh, especially Latin America
     
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    Even in the old world some expansionist languages like Arabic and Russian have fucked up the link between ancestry and language.
     
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  14. Tukraq

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    yeah but like I said, here in the americas, I don't even think ethnicity really exists lol, like say is a Brazilian admixed with native, African, white blood to be latino, and say a white American from neywork, might be admixed dutch, English, jewish, Irish and south Italian, let alone an African American who has all that I mentioned for the white guy mixed with some Cherokee, and several random African countries like Gabon, Congo and Senegal
     
  15. geeljire madaxweyne

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    You understand that people mixed in those places yet you try to say and indigenous African population came from Yemen when we know that's not true
     
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    But with a Jewish State at it's core.
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  17. Tukraq

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    its widely known sxb, quit the denial
     
  18. CaliTedesse

    CaliTedesse صومال ابن كوش

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    Get over it we are the same people. Habesh just means mixed in Arabic which we are Natufian and Nilotic. No such word as Somali existed prior to Middle Ages.
     
  19. Apollo

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    Somalis have existed for about 3,000 years as a recognizable group.

    Habesha is associated with the Eritrean-Ethiopian highlands, not with the Eastern Horn which was always a different ethnic/cultural zone.
     
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  20. CaliTedesse

    CaliTedesse صومال ابن كوش

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    That doesn't matter to outsiders we were the same people. No documented proof of Somalis, the name, exists pre Middle Ages.
     
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