Thank you. As I said I'm open abour changing my mind . If I'm not mistaken arab contributions were also exaggerated on the swahili coast, historians now believe that many of the Shirazi and Arab "founders" were actually local muslims who wanted to take pride in prestigious linesge from established muslim communities.Do you honestly believe a foreign ship can come and settle into the coast to establish their own settlement? You make it seem like there was no settlement before their arrival. Trading cities have existed throughout Horn of Africa for thousands of years.
Why did you ignore this source when @Mckenzie showed you? Arabs did not found Mogadishu or any Benadir port.
Founded by Somalis, the city was majority Somalis and ruled by Somalis. Immigrants assimilated into the society and Somalis controlled the flow of them, being able to deny and expel them at will.
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So it is established by this book that Somalis, and our ancestors lived in the Horn of Africa and had trading cities as noted by Greek and Arab cartographers. It is also known that 200 years before Ibn Battuta came to Mogadishu and described it as a predominately Somali city ruled by a Somali Sultan, al-Idrisi described Merca, Mogadishu and the settlements inbetween them around the 'Nile of Mogadishu' to be predominately Somali, infact It is also established that Mogadishu was one of the original coastal settlements of the Somali people. 100 years after that and before Ibn Battuta came, another Arab cartographer described it as the homeland of a Somali people.
It is established that Mogadishu amongst other coastal cities, were founded and inhabited by the ancestors of the Somali. After a long while the city grew more and more after inital trade with Arab, Persian, Indian, Chinese traders. Arab and Persian traders who would later settle in the city. There is a reason they were drawn to the city. And later the city would turn into a Sultanate led by a Somali Sultan, who would turn the city into a religious and trading center, that allowed for more immigrants to arrive.
Anyway What can you tell me about the whole "somalis came to mogadishu in the 17th century and killed the muzzafar Sultan" that Grant is talking about? I also read from Cerulli about the fact that Hawiye were not allowed in the city after dark and that they became dominant only after killing the arab rulers. What's your opinion on what grant is saying? I trust you as a fairly knowledgeable guy on this website.