Was Farole Senior One Of The Best Leaders In Puntland?

[DR OSMAN]

What do Puntites think of Farole Senior legacy. We r all quick to point to his nepotism and fetish with his son, a high number of assassination of important human capital to PL, and his election fiasco. I think besides those ills, his positive outweigh it.

His the one who put to policy and executed the great dual track foreign policy for PL and SL and Somalia.

This allowed PL to attend international summits without violating any international rules and develop its regional profile as a positive force if it did choose to become a nation state

 

[DR OSMAN]

Farole Senior also kick started the reversal of 150 year PL policy of looking to Mogadishu for solutions, he switched all that and created PL first policy.

He also is the one who developed our govt dept, and institutions, and alot of our development goal.

Prior to him their was hardly any development to.mention. He gave Somalia its constitution and also codified the 1998 founding charter for PL constitution. He was definitely a heavyweight leader.

As for Gaas that was the slowest and worst 5 years in PL presidential history which I start from Farole Term in 2009, everything between 1998 to 2009(cade n yey term) were all about save somalia(yey) and cade term was assist yey to put Somalia back on the map, anigu ma tiriyo 98 to 2009, PL first started in 2009, we are really only 16 years old

 

[TheLand]

He is the roadblock to PL discussing any changes to its constitution.

 

[Chaseyourdreamzz]

Deni has been much better for PL clan relations

 

[DR OSMAN]

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He is the roadblock to PL discussing any changes to its constitution.

When u see Hamar ppl face back then as PL building its regional profile in international summits and Mogadishu is just chimping out, they were seriously so mad back then.

They never imagined post 91, that Hartis and Leelkase would exist let alone be a govt, be in international summits developing its regional profile, while saving Hawiye in Hamar and indirectly all Somalis from 1998 to 2009 and fulfilling its founding 1998 charter declaration which they have completed(as somalis sit in hamar while doing nothing or being a destructive force during the hard years of the SFG formation(Harti created SFG) and hamar now has developed) but has come back to bite them in the ass and now u have PL first Nazis popping up saying what a waste of 10 years(98 to 2009) lost lives, lost money, and most important lost time that we can't get back for mashrucyo

 

[Hassan Garguute Buldanana]

He was excellent dealing with the amisom protectorate and had good international connections. Wasn't interested running for FGS like Gaas/Deni. Created PL Constitution and flag and said we will govern ourselves as independent as long as the anarchists in xamar refuse to progress. Our shit used to go straight to us and never through the tuugo in xamar who block everything.


Negatives were the man barely left garowe. Soft on idoor and couldn't say no to idoor sukaar. Almost Daily assasinations started with his own minister seefka bananka AUN getting killed in Galkaacyo. Even now as a senator, the man never attends sessions leaving the Constitution to the likes of moryaan qeybdiid.

 

[FBIsomalia]

What do Puntites think of Farole Senior legacy. We r all quick to point to his nepotism and fetish with his son, a high number of assassination of important human capital to PL, and his election fiasco. I think besides those ills, his positive outweigh it.

His the one who put to policy and executed the great dual track foreign policy for PL and SL and Somalia.

This allowed PL to attend international summits without violating any international rules and develop its regional profile as a positive force if it did choose to become a nation state

Faroole was nightmare for puntland.

 

[The Oponian Guild]

Good on foreign policy during his tenure. Internal clan relations were abysmal in those days though and I remember the chaos of those days, Deni has been an improvement on that.

 

[3LetterzMM]

He was good but gaas was better idk how u can say his term was hellish gaas was equal opportunity and much less bias towards his tol he was developing all over at least more than faroole was.

 

[DR OSMAN]

He was good but gaas was better idk how u can say his term was hellish gaas was equal opportunity and much less bias towards his tol he was developing all over at least more than faroole was.

Nah bro I didn't mean his character or qualities( clannist, bad personality, selfish, dictator) I meant more on delivering some big generational changing projects in PL developmental, governance, security or political stability goals(Hamar). I've had bad bosses bro but they do their job and keep my work safe in the process. We are 25 year old government now, 6 presidency terms, a whole generation was born under it and 25, ww need to ensure we r leaving something la dhaxlo behind. Our governance is pretty inefficient also 25 years we saw what Paul kagame achieved isku fac baan nahay and similar shared story state collapse.

 

[DR OSMAN]

He was good but gaas was better idk how u can say his term was hellish gaas was equal opportunity and much less bias towards his tol he was developing all over at least more than faroole was.

Tell me anything Gaas did oo la dhuuqi Karo aan ka ahayn public speeches using alot of political correctness speech writers, dadku ma dhaxlan good or bad manners, it has to be wax la taban Karo oo dhulka yaalo.

 

[Rackzzz]

Faroole is my favorite Puntland leader of all time

 

[3LetterzMM]

Tell me anything Gaas did oo la dhuuqi Karo aan ka ahayn public speeches using alot of political correctness speech writers, dadku ma dhaxlan good or bad manners, it has to be wax la taban Karo oo dhulka yaalo.

Al shabaab and piracy where still problems at the end of faroole terms I'll give him credit cause the beginning and end of his term was like night and day but Gaas was the one that really cleaned shit up by time Gaas left pirates where no more and Al shabaab was non existent no more bombings things where peachy.

Gaas was a fair man too he could've been like faroole and put all of the states money into developing galkacyo but he was spreading it round bari nugaal sanaag and mudug all got their day to shine with him why do you think Garowe is steps ahead of Galkacyo in terms of development and city planning despite Galkacyo bein much bigger and the obvious choice to build up after Bosaso. Faroole walked so Gaas could run so Deni could drive ya feel me Gaas set up the alley oop for deni to dunk dat hoe.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Al shabaab and piracy where still problems at the end of faroole terms I'll give him credit cause the beginning and end of his term was like night and day but Gaas was the one that really cleaned shit up by time Gaas left pirates where no more and Al shabaab was non existent no more bombings things where peachy.

Gaas was a fair man too he could've been like faroole and put all of the states money into developing galkacyo but he was spreading it round bari nugaal sanaag and mudug all got their day to shine with him why do you think Garowe is steps ahead of Galkacyo in terms of development and city planning despite Galkacyo bein much bigger and the obvious choice to build up after Bosaso. Faroole walked so Gaas could run so Deni could drive ya feel me Gaas set up the alley oop for deni to dunk dat hoe.

That's not piracy bro, piracy is when you just rob ppl on the sea with no reason. It's different when U being robbed 3 billion a year by trawlers and no-one calling that piracy. Don't buy into media branding fitnah, niggas didn't get even 5% of what they were getting robbed as everyone in the world stood by playing blind huh.

 

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[DR OSMAN]

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Love iyo waxaas waa colonial period shukansi romance from Italy(ciyaal xaafadnimo), raw niggas r still raw niggas who know old somali values pre colonial, even me I wud be highly suspect marki kaagi loo soo faristo, I don't want my daughter marrying anyone who ain't got money or something laysku halayn karo other then(for allah sake) cause raw niggas go to mosques and wear beards like u and say for allah sake send the funds from your account(taada ayaa loo fadhiya dee). Anyone can play religious waryaa, raw nigfas r still raw niggas.

I grew up in the diaspora so I can relate to u guys also but I did leave u guys as a kid in my formative years to be in hamar during the warlord years. I don't hold your values 100% either. Raw niggas sill see your background check(connections, land size, wealth, human capital) and what u do have(personally) u ain't sucking my shit weeye nigg(maybe his daughter is his insurance later life) it ain't about clannism or islamism, war it's about survival, f*ck outta here thinking everything is about petty clan and islam, u just a kid.

 

[3LetterzMM]

That's not piracy bro, piracy is when you just rob ppl on the sea with no reason. It's different when U being robbed 3 billion a year by trawlers and no-one calling that piracy. Don't buy into media branding fitnah, niggas didn't get even 5% of what they were getting robbed as everyone in the world stood by playing blind huh.

Brother I got love for the pirates they're heroes in my eyes I'm just saying it shouldn't be up to the fishermen to protect our seas if we had a strong naval presence in our waters back then ajnabi wouldn't have had the balls to come near our waters and steal our fish or dump their waste.

 

[3LetterzMM]

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Damn if that's true that's crazy honestly I would be happy if my daughter married a good Muslim he can even be ajnabi for all I care I deffo would prefer that over a shitty dude from my tol.

 

[DR OSMAN]

Damn if that's true that's crazy honestly I would be happy if my daughter married a good Muslim he can even be ajnabi for all I care I deffo would prefer that over a shitty dude from my tol.

I would never marry my daughter off to someone if I didn't check his shit out gaal or Muslim, I don't rely on the(I'm muslim) card, i prefer to hand her to a gaal who I know has proof of his gobanimo in life(ama wax indhayga ujeedo auch as a assets or connections) and tell em keep your religious difference as minor as noone knows what's coming tommorow let alone after death. I think kinda like sultans and kings doing marriages of convenience(survival).

I ain't switched on like Somalis due to seeing horrendous thing in warlord era as a diaspora coming in like gullible westerner diaspora like u all are here, but I adjusted and learned their traditions, plus I was born in the west, I'm a man of my time tho(I'm a moryan by values at heart). U will always know Somalis fear of the moryan condition by how they deflect to islam, somalinimo, or any other kumbayah let's get along shit cause of those red eyes lol.

 

[3LetterzMM]

I would never marry my daughter off to someone if I didn't check his shit out gaal or Muslim, I don't rely on the(I'm muslim) card, i prefer to hand her to a gaal who I know has proof of his gobanimo in life(ama wax indhayga ujeedo auch as a assets or connections) and tell em keep your religious difference as minor as noone knows what's coming tommorow let alone after death. I think kinda like sultans and kings doing marriages of convenience(survival).

I ain't switched on like Somalis due to seeing horrendous thing in warlord era as a diaspora coming in like gullible westerner diaspora like u all are here, but I adjusted and learned their traditions, plus I was born in the west, I'm a man of my time tho(I'm a moryan by values at heart). U will always know Somalis fear of the moryan condition by how they deflect to islam, somalinimo, or any other kumbayah let's get along shit cause of those red eyes lol.

I would definitely do my research that kinda goes without sayin no man worth his salt gon marry their daughter off to a guy they know nothing about. I'm just saying hypothetically an ajnabi dude on his deen with good morals is better than a Somali dude from ur tol who's barely practicing and has bad morals or is jus a shitty person. Money doesn't matter that much as long as he's not shaqo laan and goes to work every day like a man he doesn't have to be rich end of the day I'm raising my daughters to be independent able to take care of themselves my little girls are gonna have good jobs themselves so they dont have to marry a dude just for his pockets.