Your beta cuck male president is a puppet.
Enough, we will March in the morning,
Isaaq send 20k troops
HY send 15k
Dir send 5k
Darood will finance it
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Enough, we will March in the morning,
Isaaq send 20k troops
HY send 15k
Dir send 5k
Darood will finance it
Make it 15k one of our deluded ministers is planning to send 5k to pakiland.
Pakiland? Why go that far, when a war is at your doorstep with these raw meat eating xoolo?
That was in poor taste, the rohingya people in burma.But I agree, problems at home should first be addressed first.Pakiland? Why go that far, when a war is at your doorstep with these raw meat eating xoolo?
Oromos have been continously used by the tigray to displace somalis since the fall of the siad government.Is all of the somali region really somali? Or did they include oromo areas?!? Or have oromos moved there after ethiopia took ogaden?!?
This even happens in SL where isaaq are preyed upon by oromos gangs. Nobody speaks up about it though. Silanyo allowed this b.s.
Exactly, people like that grant saqajaan will subconsciously paint raxanwayn as oromos through linguistics, to further create subdivisions amongst us.It's like Portuguese and Spanish. They are still Somali people though
Cadaanka iska ilaali
Bro, that old white man just can't stop. You would think he's on tplf payroll.
They're everywhere, even in garowe and bossaso. So many Somalis there have become indifferent because they have other matters to worry about. Their abuse of local Somalis in SL is well known. Oromo street children in SL beat up and rob Somali street children where they compete for the car wash market, and are also engaged in much worse night time human rights abuses against females.
No, you're wrong and what he's saying is accurate. Raxanwayn have a common ancestors with Somalis as they all migrated from the same place at the same time period.
Also, how can you be an expert on our origins, when you don't even know your own origins you garaac
:siilaanyolaugh:I thought I was the only one that noticed!Interesting, @Grant who almost exclusively spends his time on this forum pushing revisionist history about Somalis also is interested in Ethio-Somali relations. This is probably the first post I've seen of his related to current affairs, and it's an article depicting Somalis as aggressors and Oromos as victims...In a thread about Somalis being slaughtered by oromos.
Very strange
@Professor hes probably a habeshi himself, that would explain a lot.
He uses the "i'm wight, so you should believe me card" which conveniently paints us in a bad light.
HuunoHunter
Old Head 👴🏿
This is the curse of the Somalis, we don't respect ourselves which in turn means we won't be respected by other nations.
Gibiin-Udug
Crowned Queen of Puntland. Supporter of PuntExit
I will spray febreeze on smelly Oromos in public in MN on behalf of OGs.
Professor
The name is Professor, Haji Professor
explains why he has such a fetish for somali historical revision.Interesting, @Grant who almost exclusively spends his time on this forum pushing revisionist history about Somalis also is interested in Ethio-Somali relations. This is probably the first post I've seen of his related to current affairs, and it's an article depicting Somalis as aggressors and Oromos as victims...In a thread about Somalis being slaughtered by oromos.
Very strange
@Professor hes probably a habeshi himself, that would explain a lot.
Waxwaalan
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I support iley showing the oromos who's in charge, but there needs to be consequences for the oromos who have done this. There can't be a settlement or truce.
As for silanyo, he's old & his time as prez is up. Only focusing on benefitting financially before its over. How can u be greedy at that age
Hopefull muuse bixi will be smarter. SL needs an immigration system. They've sent some oromos away, but they come back like cockroaches
A section of of Raxanweyn is originally Somalized Oromo. They intermarry with one another and on good terms for the most part.
I'm pleased to see someone has figured this out. The old histories need revision.
Those who still believe that Isaaq and Darood were "J", married "T" Dir women and had E1b1b children need to read up on the inheritance of haplotypes.
The Orma settled Af Madow in the 1600s. Some were driven back into Kenya by Darood Somalis, but others were absorbed by the Rahanweyn.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maay_Maay
"Maay is principally spoken by the Digil and Mirifle (Rahanweyn or Sab) clans in the southern regions of Somalia.[3] Its speech area extends from the southwestern border with Ethiopia to a region close to the coastal strip between Mogadishu and Kismayo, including the city of Baidoa.[4] Maay is not mutually comprehensible with Northern Somali or Benadir, and it differs considerably in sentence structure and phonology.[5] It is also not generally used in education or media. However, Maay speakers often use Standard Somali as a lingua franca,[4] which is learned via mass communications, internal migration and urbanisation.[5]
Maay is closely related with the Jiido, Dabarre, Garre and Tunni languages that are also spoken by smaller Rahanweyn communities. Collectively, these languages present similarities with Oromo that are not found in mainstream Somali. Chief among these is the lack of pharyngeal sounds in the Rahanweyn/Digil and Mirifle languages, features which by contrast typify Somali. The retroflex /ɖ/ is also replaced by /r/ in some positions. Although in the past frequently classified as dialects of Somali, more recent research by the linguist Mohamed Diriye Abdullahi has shown that these varieties, including Maay, constitute separate Cushitic languages. They may thus represent traces of an Oromo substratum in the southern Rahanweyn confederacy.[6]"
"He's wrong cause he's Wight" is a lousy argument that would get itself lost with even the simplest of reading. The links are there, people.
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Its not as simple as you make it sound. Rahanweyns are Somalis who absorbed many Somali and non-Somalis sub clans. Some of them were absorbed by Hawiya and Darood. Example Tunni sub clan:
In the inter-riverine regions between the Juba and Shabelle rivers, the Digil-Rahanweyn clan, composed primarily of other clans absorbed into the lineage as they settled, adopted a sedentary, agro-pastoral lifestyle.
The Digil and Mirifle, or Rahanweyn, seem to take a middle position between a Somali clan and a minority. They are considered as a minority group by some experts (such as the UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in Somalia, Ms Mona Rishmawi). By others they are considered as clans related to the major Somali clans, though considered as less 'noble'. In the Transitional National Assembly (TNA), recently formed in Djibouti, the Digil and Mirifle have been included as one of the major Somali clan-families (with 33 sub-clans) and allotted 49 seats, distinct from the recognised "official" minorities grouped together at Arta under the title "Alliance Clans Community". Different use is made of the names Digil, Mirifle (Merifle) and Rahanweyn. A UN source in Nairobi explained that this is a consequence of an effort made by Siad Barre to amalgamate all these clans under the one name Rahanweyn (the largest group). Originally, however, the Somali distinguished two clan-families, one called the Digil and another variously called Rahanweyn or Mirifle.
The Digil and Mirifle95 are related ethnically to the four main Somali clan-families in various ways. Both Somali and Digil-Mirifle trace their origins back to the same ancestor, at the highest genealogical level: the ancestor of the Digil-Mirifle, Sab, and the ancestor of the four main Somali clan-families, Somali (or Samaale), are traced back to a common ancestor Hill, who is believed to have had Arabian origins. The descendants of Sab are segmented into three families: the Digil, Mirifle (or Rahanweyn) and Tunni; the Mirifle and Tunni derive from the Digil. The Mirifle and Tunni are numerically the most important, but the Digil survive as a small independent confederacy. The Mirifle are concentrated in the inter-riverine areas of Bay and southern Bakool, but they also form substantial minorities in Gedo, the Lower and Middle Juba and the Lower Shabelle regions. The Digil are concentrated in the Lower Shabelle region. Historically, the Digil and Mirifle arose from the intermixture of south-driving Somali with the rearguard of the Galla then occupying most of the lower reaches of the Juba.96 The characteristic structure of the Digil and Mirifle results from the adoption of other groups. Elements from all the other Somali clans as well as Oromo and Bantu have been absorbed in this way. These elements (individuals, families or groups) have been enabled to coalesce, thus forming mixed clans, with a founding lineage acting as a thread round which successive groups crystallise. In this way, relatively stable confederacies, bound together by reciprocal relations of aid and defence, are formed. Such unions are at first organised on the lineage principle. This, however, usually disappears in their further development. The end-point in the process of federation is the mixed village, where lineage segmentation no longer corresponds to territorial distribution. An example is the Tunni confederacy, which is formed by a number of Hawiye, Mirifle, Dir, Galla, Gobawein (Bantu), Ashraf, Ajuran and Boon groupings, with each segment containing an original Tunni lineage.....
In the genealogical structure of the Mirifle (Rahanweyn), the offshoot of the Digil that has come to eclipse its parent stock in number and importance, there are only three orders of segmentation between the ancestor Rahanweyn and the individual sub-clans, in marked contrast to the charts of the nomadic clan-families. Sub-divisions of the Mirifle can be found, e.g. in Lewis (1994a) or Cassanelli (1995). Lewis (1994a) describes the Tunni as a large tribe, or rather tribal confederacy. They lived at one time on the Juba river, but since the tenth century they were driven south-west and eventually settled in and around Brava. They had a mixed cattle-cultivation economy and also hunted. The Tunni Torre, a Negroid group, were federated to the Tunni of Brava as their vassals.98 As described in chapter 7, the Tunni in Brava town are culturally close to the Benadiri (Reer Brava). The five lineages (gamas) which the Bravanese Tunni mention as sub-division of the Tunni clan, can be found in Lewis (1994a) as Daffarat, Werile, Aggiuwa, Dacktira and Goigal, with further sub-groups.99
This looks like a great source. Do you have a link?
I notice that four out of five of the Tunni clans in the chart have Oromo components, so thanks for that. Obviously, the shegad system was alive and well in the South.
Loooool i remember when i was in SL. These kids would call me oromo due to how shit my somali was like it was a diss ting. I didn't get it at first until my cousin told me. 
You've missed this sentence.
Historically, the Digil and Mirifle arose from the intermixture of south-driving Somali with the rearguard of the Galla then occupying most of the lower reaches of the Juba.96
https://www.ecoi.net/file_upload/470_1161683683_somalianov2000.pdf
Thank you, Sir. I've got it bookmarked. And no, I didn't. Just didn't want any more controversy before folks digest what's already on their plates. Let's save it for another day...
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