Wagner coup in Russia

bidenkulaha

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Prigozhin's Reply to Putin:

"No one will surrender to the President's demands":

"On treason, the President is deeply mistaken. We are patriots of our Motherland. We fought and are fighting for him, all PMC Wagner fighters are fighting. And no one will surrender to the demands of the President and the FSB. Because we do not want the country to live in more corruption lies and bureaucracy.

When we fought in Africa we were told we needed Africa and then they abandoned it because they stole all the money that should have come to help.

When we were told we had to fight with Ukraine, we went and fought. However, we saw that the ammunition, the weapons, all the money invested in it were stolen by the authorities, and today it turned out that they were sitting and keeping them for themselves on their way to Moscow."

they do not save anything, they shoot us with planes and helicopters in areas where there are civilians. And they shoot civilians.

We are patriots, but those who resist us today are those gathered around the scum
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
Loses so far

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Cartan Boos

Average SSC Patriot
VIP
few 30-40k mercenaries can't fight country with hundred of thousand of personal military, literaly suicide
 
What a totally incompetent situation for the Russian Federation, this is all because of the maltreatment of Prigozhin & Wagner in Ukraine by the defense ministry. Everyone and their mother knows how corrupt the military is in Russia but you would think that they'd clean up their act with the war in Ukraine.

Anyway, let's see how it develops.
 
I don’t think Putin was in the plane, but I love the badass attitude from Tokayev. Very fearless ever since the beginning of the war, when he condemned Putin right in front of him kkk. But It’s not surprising given how Kazakhstan will be targeted once Ukraine, Georgia and Moldavia are finished with. After all, they have a large ethnic Russians there.

 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
I don’t think Putin was in the plane, but I love the badass attitude from Tokayev. Very fearless ever since the beginning of the war, when he condemned Putin right in front of him kkk. But It’s not surprising given how Kazakhstan will be targeted once Ukraine, Georgia and Moldavia are finished with. After all, they have a large ethnic Russians there.

Kazakhstan has a deepening relationship with China and Turkey.

Given they’re Turkic they can get away with defence deals with Turkey more than others without Russia retaliating.

If they can survive the next ten years as Turkey becomes a military power that can develop all its own equipment they have a good future
 
What a totally incompetent situation for the Russian Federation, this is all because of the maltreatment of Prigozhin & Wagner in Ukraine by the defense ministry. Everyone and their mother knows how corrupt the military is in Russia but you would think that they'd clean up their act with the war in Ukraine.

Anyway, let's see how it develops.

Not really due to maltreatment alone. This this is bound to happen when you create powerful non-state armed entities. Once they raise ranks, it’s inevitable that they will execute their own power aspirations.

Russia and Wagner is essentially no different in theory from the current fighting between Sudan and RSF. It follows the same pattern, even if the reasoning of conflict may differ.
 

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