"Venezuela has breadlines, socialism is a failure"

My Mom has also to been to Cuba, she was shocked to see how they loved life there and their needs were met. Nice to hear but what I was saying is that Monroe Doctrine = No communism (or really no displacing American business) therefore sanctions. That's literally the point of it in our modern context.

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"Muh Bootlicker" I'm very well aware that wages have been stagnant for decades while productivity has skyrocketed. Money is getting vacuumed up straight to the top and competition is dead in the corporate sector. The Banking, Arms, Oil, and Tech industries own the Federal Govt its pretty obvious. I'm not promulgating their system it just works better than yours ever has.

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Now will a complete restructure and grassroots movement to remove them happen successfully? No it won't bar some extraordinary event, so there's no point punching a brick wall with your bare hands. Work hard get a good paying job and raise a proper family instead of being an edgy revolutionary.

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Quick question, How do you reconcile MLM with Islam? I wanna see the mental gymnastics to justify this one. And before you retort "Interest" I'm aware it is fundamentally in contradiction to Islam.

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Keep drinking right-wing think-tank drivel.

P.s. I don't watch Democracy Now! I read history books, moron.

You don't read history books. You watch The Young Turks, with that fat buffoon Chunk Yogurt screaming into the camera.

Nothing you've ever posted on this thread was of any substance

Socialism is a failure, and you should be ashamed of yourself
 
It helps when the US, the most powerful nation on earth, has been sanctioning you for decades.

That is an absolute lie

Show me the evidence that America was sanctioning Venezuela, you half-brained moron

There were no sanctions. Venezuela collapsed while America was still their biggest trade partner. Socialism is what killed Venezuela, but go on scapegoating America for your problems
 

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You don't read history books. You watch The Young Turks, with that fat buffoon Chunk Yogurt screaming into the camera.

Nothing you've ever posted on this thread was of any substance

Socialism is a failure, and you should be ashamed of yourself
Cenk Uygur is a capitalist with left-leaning social idealogy. He opposes Communism and he's said so many times. His show is also for profit.
 
Cenk Uygur is a capitalist with left-leaning social idealogy. He opposes Communism and he's said so many times. His show is also for profit.

That's what I thought as well

But Ana Kasparian and Chunk Yogurt both believe that billionaires shouldn't exist. They believe that profit constitutes "theft"...and Chunk's own nephew who works for the show also argues that businesses don't actually create any products, that they "steal" surplus value from their workers.

This is the same shit that Alexandria Ocasio Cortez believes. This is textbook Marxism.

If you asked me in 2015 if Cenk was a capitalist I'd agree with you. But he's been radicalized by Bernie and this Marxist idea of "surplus value"
 
We actually have Muslims on this forum who are Marxist-Leninist

What an absolute travesty

There is no such thing real communism. USSR was never really communist neither is China.

Its a Jewish invention, to make the goyim believe that could be real equality amongst people in society
 
There is no such thing real communism. USSR was never really communist neither is China.

Its a Jewish invention, to make the goyim believe that could be real equality amongst people in society


Communism is a utopian ideal. It's a system with no police, no army, no money, no laws, no borders, and no classes.

It's supposed to be a goal that's reached in 500 years

But the Soviet Union was socialist, not Communist. China and Cuba were socialist, not Communist. Same with 1970s era Somalia. It was socialist
 

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Communism is a utopian ideal. It's a system with no police, no army, no money, no laws, no borders, and no classes.

It's supposed to be a goal that's reached in 500 years

But the Soviet Union was socialist, not Communist. China and Cuba were socialist, not Communist. Same with 1970s era Somalia. It was socialist
That's right it is the future of humanity. The powers that be will not want to see it implemented cause we live in a world of avarice. We will have to contend with Islamic socialism which will hopefully be established after Arabia suffers a petrol collapse.
 
That's right it is the future of humanity. The powers that be will not want to see it implemented cause we live in a world of avarice. We will have to contend with Islamic socialism which will hopefully be established after Arabia suffers a petrol collapse.

You're full of shit

Communism is against human nature. Only a complete numbskull would think this ideology is consistent with how humans actually are
 

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You're full of shit

Communism is against human nature. Only a complete numbskull would think this ideology is consistent with how humans actually are
How is it against human nature? Are you telling us humans are naturally evil, manipulative and greedy?
 
How is it against human nature? Are you telling us humans are naturally evil, manipulative and greedy?

One of the dumbest posts ever made on this website. You should be ashamed of yourself

How the f*ck would Communism work when there's no profit/loss system to coordinate production?

More importantly, what kind of Muslim believes in this bullshit? You're selling out your Deen to appeal to Karl Marx? Are you fucking kidding me?
 
Property rights are integral in Islam

Islam secures your life and property.

Did you hear that? LIFE AND PROPERTY

COMMUNISM HAS NO PROPERTY RIGHTS, you blithering moron

You don't own your farm, or factory. The Government owns all of it. You can't profit and become rich, because the Government controls all production.

Keep licking the boots of Karl Marx you sellout
 

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Property rights are integral in Islam

Islam secures your life and property.

Did you hear that? LIFE AND PROPERTY

COMMUNISM HAS NO PROPERTY RIGHTS, you blithering moron

You don't own your farm, or factory. The Government owns all of it. You can't profit and become rich, because the Government controls all production.

Keep licking the boots of Karl Marx you sellout
I'm not sure Islam secures your life better than communism. How is that so? An individual would be far more secure in a communist society than a Muslim one cause of the welfare state. They may not grow rich but their life would be secure. I specifically said Islamic socialism not communism for a reason, I mean it as a compromise so the two are compatible.

I am however avowed communist, private property should be cease to exist I do believe that. My faith is being shaken everyday brother, god help us all eh.
 
I'm not sure Islam secures your life better than communism. How is that so? An individual would be far more secure in a communist society than a Muslim one cause of the welfare state. They may not grow rich but their life would be secure. I specifically said Islamic socialism not communism for a reason, I mean it as a compromise so the two are compatible.

I am however avowed communist, private property should be cease to exist I do believe that. My faith is being shaken everyday brother, god help us all eh.

"Property rights should cease to exist"

Should pork be made halal too?
 

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"Property rights should cease to exist"

Should pork be made halal too?
Islam precedes communism the concept of government controlling the means of production is alien to it but I believe many socialist principles can co exist with Islam.
 
Communist haven't made money yet. They become conservatives after their first post-uni paycheck.

Never met a communist who worked a decent job.
 

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Communist haven't made money yet. They become conservatives after their first post-uni paycheck.

Never met a communist who worked a decent job.
Why don't you just be honest and say you've never met a communist? That's far more believable!
 
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