BREAKING NEWS US Senator Cruz Calls for Recognition of Somaliland

I’m convinced that when people make these talking points, they stem from pure xenophobia toward Bantu individuals. Time and again, I’ve seen the same generalisations directed at Hawiye, simply because a small section lives alongside Somali Bantus, and they are not alone in this, as Dir (biimaal) do as well. Cultural differences are largely shaped by location, not clan. The gugundhabe in galbeed have differences from an hg in galgaduud, yet both are hawiye.
That’s literally what it stems from. The only reason why they don’t focus on Dirs is due to their ignorance and not knowing that a good % of Bimaals actually live amongst Bantus more so than any Hawiye. They’re very ignorant of the South in general. Believe me, these speaking points wouldn’t exist if Somali Bantus didn’t live in the South and if the South didn’t border Kenya.

In fact from looking at DNA tests, it’s Southern Daroods that have lower rates of West Eurasian DNA and not Hawiyes but since the vast majority of Hawiyes are concentrated in the South they come up with narratives of us being mixed or darker.
 
You have awrtable LLK MX some OGs plus dhulbahante warsangeli also jidwaaq all matching within 900 years more testing needs to be done yes but its pretty much starting to add up
Not even harti is real at this point sxb, why is it dhulos and warsangalis haven’t made their own subclade yet? The results imo are painting a completely different picture
 

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Is a degodi the same as a leelkase? Is a jajeele the same as a bartire? Is a hadama the same as a siwakhroon? Some are Somali, others are halfway between, and others are somalicised.

Somalicisation is a real thing.
Degoodis are pure somalis and are no different to the xawaadles and gaaljecels and other non hawiye southerners
 
The vast majorly of Hawiyes aren’t farmers, they’re Nomadic camel herders. Hawiyes speak Af Maxaa and Raxenweyne speak Af May.

Spoken like someone who is clueless. Also, not all Hawiyes live in the South. Many still live in Ethiopia.
Walal why are u running away from the south every clan in lives in Ethiopia. We were not talking about that hawiye have different dialect abgaal have strong dialect the same way rahanweyn have strong dialect hence the similarities and proximity towards each other. Hawiye have allot of farmers more farmers then any other. Clan
 

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Look at the article author haha

No way she uses Somali spot a source:
 
Walal why are u running away from the south every clan in lives in Ethiopia. We were not talking about that hawiye have different dialect abgaal have strong dialect the same way rahanweyn have strong dialect hence the similarities and proximity towards each other. Hawiye have allot of farmers more farmers then any other. Clan
Rahenweyne don’t have a strong dialect, they speak a different language. They speak Af Maay. Please don’t talk about things you don’t even know. You sound dumb now.

Abgaals speak Af Maxaa. Rahenweyne speak Af May. The vast majority of Abgaals aren’t farmers, they’re nomads. In fact Bimaal who are Dir have more farms. But since you’re ignorant of the South, I’m sure you didn’t know this did you?

It’s embarrassing to talk about what you don’t know with confidence. It’s clear that you don’t even know what Af May is do you? Abgaals and Rahenweynes speak a different language.
 
Allot of linguïst do not consider af may a separate language Af may is there for somali if u clearly listen to af may it is somali . Hawiye have allot of farm land it is then natural to be a farmer . Yeah sure habargedir in mudug and galguduud are nomadic but clearly Hawadle have allot of farms. In hiiran so do mudulood in shabelleda Dhexe
Abgaal dialect is also somali the xaayoow dialect if ur old enough to remember how maxammad Dhere spoke then u know what I am talking about hawiye and rahanweyn are the two clans that have their own separate dialect thick dialects and they are Moslty both farmers this is a fact
 
Nobody cares about how you non landers identify yourself, you all are reer xamar at the end of the day. The Somaliland cause is in full motion and you even now have murtad ssdf offspring on our side. Everyday there’s new infrastructure projects being announced or US politicians mentioning us.

 
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Nobody cares about how you non landers identify yourself, you all are reer xamar at the end of the day. The Somaliland cause is in full motion and you even now have murtad ssdf offspring on our side. Everyday there’s new infrastructure projects being announced or US politicians mentioning us.

What is even the point of this post? No one ever thought a military commander could make US foreign policy, thats not news to anyone. It doesnt indicate anything about a policy shift. This is just another case of desperately looking for bread crumbs where they dont exist.

All you separatists are doing is allowing the US to use you as leverage against the federal government because even if you get recognition from the US, China will veto any attempt at UN recognition. The African Union also has already made clear that they have no intention of recognizing clan/tribal states especially one that the official UN recognized government doesn't approve of. At a time when Africa and the rest of the Global South are clearly moving away from western imperialism and hegemony towards freedom, you are so excited at the thought of hosting American military bases. Even Kenya and Ethiopia rejected an offer to host an AFRICOM base. Shameful. Waa na ceebaysen.


or US politicians mentioning us.
Because they are paid to mention you, its not organic or geniune interest.
 
What is even the point of this post? No one ever thought a military commander could make US foreign policy, thats not news to anyone. It doesnt indicate anything about a policy shift. This is just another case of desperately looking for bread crumbs where they dont exist.

All you separatists are doing is allowing the US to use you as leverage against the federal government because even if you get recognition from the US, China will veto any attempt at UN recognition. The African Union also has already made clear that they have no intention of recognizing clan/tribal states especially one that the official UN recognized government doesn't approve of. At a time when Africa and the rest of the Global South are clearly moving away from western imperialism and hegemony towards freedom, you are so excited at the thought of hosting American military bases. Even Kenya and Ethiopia rejected an offer to host an AFRICOM base. Shameful. Waa na ceebaysen.



Because they are paid to mention you, its not organic or geniune interest.
Stop virtue signalling. Let’s not act like FGS and Djibouti weren’t about to shake ass and offer Ethiopia & America everything they have:



You non-landers would give up your first child if it meant trying to stop SL 😂
 

You non-landers would give up your first child if it meant trying to stop SL 😂
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A problem which you created. Djibouti didnt do this because they wanted to. Once again showing that you are nothing more than a point of leverage for foreign states to use against us all. And even then Djibouti was smart enough to make the fees so high ($1.6 billion/year) that Ethiopia decided it was no longer worth using the port which is why they have been targeting the port of Assab.
 
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Allot of linguïst do not consider af may a separate language Af may is there for somali if u clearly listen to af may it is somali .
You will not be able to understand someone speaking a pure Af May accent without heavy borrowing of Af maxaa words. You cannot.
Hawiye have allot of farm land it is then natural to be a farmer . Yeah sure habargedir in mudug and galguduud are nomadic but clearly Hawadle have allot of farms. In hiiran so do mudulood in shabelleda Dhexe
Xawadle aren’t Hawiye.
Abgaal dialect is also somali the xaayoow dialect if ur old enough to remember how maxammad Dhere spoke then u know what I am talking about hawiye
The Xaayow dialect is Af Maxaa and understood by most Af maxaa Somali speakers. Furthermore, it is only spoken by one sub clan. Hence please tell me, do Habr Gidir have that dialect? Do Baadicade? Do Mursadde? Do even some Abgaals like Weceysle who live more Northern to other Abgaal?


and rahanweyn are the two clans that have their own separate dialect thick dialects and they are Moslty both farmers this is a fact
Hawiyes aren’t mostly farmers. You know nothing of Hawiyes Saxib. Also, certain Nothern sub clans are also farmers as well. So what now? Can we say their whole tribe are farmers?

That is how I know you don’t want know what you’re talking about. Pure Af May is not understandable for most Af Maxaa speakers. It is a different language.

I think it’s a bit embarrassing for you to be so wrong but vocal about a group of people who you don’t know or aren’t from. It’s like a foreigner talking about Somalis, it makes me cringe. Stick to your own people Saxib
 
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Stop virtue signalling. Let’s not act like FGS and Djibouti weren’t about to shake ass and offer Ethiopia & America everything they have:



You non-landers would give up your first child if it meant trying to stop SL 😂
Maybe you should change name to something else than dhulkii somalida
 
You will not be able to understand someone speaking a pure Af May accent without heavy borrowing of Af maxaa words. You cannot.

Xawadle aren’t Hawiye.

The Xaayow dialect is Af Maxaa and understood by most Af maxaa Somali speakers. Furthermore, it is only spoken by one sub clan. Hence please tell me, do Habr Gidir have that dialect? Do Baadicade? Do Mursadde? Do even some Abgaals like Weceysle who live more Northern to other Abgaal?



Hawiyes aren’t mostly farmers. You know nothing of Hawiyes Saxib. Also, certain Nothern sub clans are also farmers as well. So what now? Can we say their whole tribe are farmers?

That is how I know you don’t want know what you’re talking about. Pure Af May is not understandable for most Af Maxaa speakers. It is a different language.

I think it’s a bit embarrassing for you to be so wrong but vocal about a group of people who you don’t know or aren’t from. It’s like a foreigner talking about Somalis, it makes me cringe. Stick to your own people Saxib

It doesn’t make u less somali if ur a farmer I know u think farmer is non somali. And soo maali means go milk hence why u trui enphesise that hawiye is non farmer so much . Yaan laga dhadhicin geeljire is only somali that’s pure nonsense. Somali wa biyomaal tumaal caano maal. Soo maal just means all those 3 waxbay soo maalayaan its not only caano maal wax fahan

As for the dialect abgaal dialect is a distinct dialect some one from the north will have the same problems understanding it as the af may dialect

the majority Of the north isn’t land for farming hence why a very small commmunity are farmers in the north Being a farmer ceeb maha hawiye live around the rivers its natural for them to
Be farmers. And if xawaadle isn’t hawiye why do they share with you the 4,5 under hawiye . I know they are considerd meyle samaale but so is gaaljecel the most nomadic hawiye clan isn’t also technically hawiye if you remove gaaljecel degodia and hawaadle from hawiye. Then hawiye is a very small qabil . I think harti and hawiye will be around the same size if u remove Hawadle gaaljecel and degodia
 
It doesn’t make u less somali if ur a farmer I know u think farmer is non somali.
Somalis of old were farmers, city dwellers and nomads. My definition of Somalis doesn’t have do with nomads vs Farmers, I am simply explaining to you that Hawiyes are nomadic. All of my Hawiye grandfathers were pastoralists and my own parents grew up drinking camel milk. You cannot tell me Hawiye history. I’ve seen with my own eyes the camels of the elders of my family. I’ve stayed in the Meey. My people deffo probably have more camels than yours. That’s why I’m irritated by your audacity.
And soo maali means go milk hence why u trui enphesise that hawiye is non farmer so much . Yaan laga dhadhicin geeljire is only somali that’s pure nonsense. Somali wa biyomaal tumaal caano maal. Soo maal just means all those 3 waxbay soo maalayaan its not only caano maal wax fahan
I couldn’t care less about the definition of what is Somali. Don’t care about what other Somalis do. I can only tell you what I’ve seen with my own eyes and know of my people. Historical literature of the Hawiyes, along with what Hawiyes say and my own family members is enough to dispute your point. If we were of a farmer background I’d be proud. Not having farms and roaming around is lowkey silly and is one of the reasons why famines are a huge issue for us Somalis.
As for the dialect abgaal dialect is a distinct dialect some one from the north will have the same problems understanding it as the af may dialect
You’re trolling at this point. I wonder does Hassan Shiekh sound like he’s speaking Af Maay or you dumb enough to think that isn’t his real accent? Normal Abgaals like the president of Somalia speak like Hassan Sheikh. Northerners understand him perfectly and a Darood like you understand even more so since you also use a lot of Southern words

The ones who have an exaggerated Dialect are of the minority community namely Reer Xamari cadcads and the ones that live in Merca.

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the majority Of the north isn’t land for farming hence why a very small commmunity are farmers in the north Being a farmer ceeb maha hawiye live around the rivers its natural for them to
Be farmers.
Gaal Jecel live around the rivers as well, yet they’re known to be pastoral as well.
Being farmers is actually the best, I am simply explaining to you that historically Hawiyes didn’t farm that much. This is even showcased by historians and anthropologists like I.M lewis who acknowledge that Hawiyes for the most part are a nomadic group.
And if xawaadle isn’t hawiye why do they share with you the 4,5 under hawiye . I know they are considerd meyle samaale but so is gaaljecel the most nomadic hawiye clan isn’t also technically hawiye if you remove gaaljecel degodia and hawaadle from hawiye. Then hawiye is a very small qabil . I think harti and hawiye will be around the same size if u remove Hawadle gaaljecel and degodia
The only reason why you’re saying Gaaljecel are the most nomadic is because you know you can’t deny their pastoral routes due to their name. Loving camels. They’re a Southern clan and I know if you could deny their pastoralism you would. You’re not fooling anyone. Funnily enough a sizable population live in Hiraan. There goes your theory that if you live around Hiraan or Shabelle you must be farmers.

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yeah I’m starting to believe the ajnabi allegations because all of your posts have been blatant isku dir. Are you telling me northerners can’t understand HSM, sheikh sharif etc? And even if a dialect is “strong” or “distinct” that sounds like a you problem. I find how reer burco speaks very different to me because I’m not familiar with that style so is it fair for me to call them non-somalis ?
No, he is probably a Darood troll who wants to cozy up to Isaaqs. That is why he’s been embarrassing himself. No one in their right mind would say Northerners can’t understand HSM and Sheikh Sharif. They understand them perfectly.

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