turks/ottomans were colonist

[Ayubi]

You're naive. The Ottomans were an empire not a caliphate.

As for Ataturk, he's a respectable guy that fought against Britain, France, Italy & Greece e.g to save his nation after the empire crumbled. Ataturk guided the nation & laid the foundation for economic prosperity & modernity for his people.

The Ottomans were a caliphate recognised by the muslim world and the Islamic scholars of their time. The Ottomans were no different from the Abbasids and the Umayyads. Secondly, It doesn't matter if he fought for the nation or not, Ataturk was no different from Siyad Barre In fact, worst. He hated Islamic values and did everything to suppress it. Honouring such a worthless man is not good.

 

[Samaalic Era]

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I Will not accept it and it is wrong to colonise others you dumb you will proobly accept arabs and ottomans taking somalis slaves and non somali slaves lol

This man Realy said he will accept arabs and ottomans to conquer somali
Cuz they muslim
@SOMALI GENERAL @Samaalic Era

@Ayubi has become a Darod supremacist and a one ummah promoter

His views are baffling

 

[haqiiiiiin]

The Ottomans were a caliphate recognised by the muslim world and the Islamic scholars of their time. The Ottomans were no different from the Abbasids and the Umayyads. Secondly, It doesn't matter if he fought for the nation or not, Ataturk was no different from Siyad Barre In fact, worst. He hated Islamic values and did everything to suppress it. Honouring such a worthless man is not good.

Caliphate is not to control muslim land nor colonise them people like you is why somali is this way cuz they and you Will accept arabs and ottomans colonial and Kiss their azz

 

[haqiiiiiin]

@Ayubi has become a Darod supremacist and a one ummah promoter

His views are baffling

How someone accept his land being control and colonise and wealth and Resource is taken from his people he will probly sell somalis as slave to ottomans I just dont understand people that have this kind mindset

 

[Ayubi]

Caliphate is not to control muslim land nor colonise them people like you is why somali is this way cuz they and you Will accept arabs and ottomans colonial and Kiss their azz

You're so dumb. The sahabas conquered other people's land in offensive Jihad. If I was a Muslim at that time and they wanted to rule my lands, I will accept it as Islamic brotherhood was alive at that time. Also, Offensive Jihad was halal at that time if they wanted to spread Islamic dominance and influence. Islamic conquests are the reason why Egypt and Persia are Muslim countries today.

Islam>>>>>>>>>Somali

Here's a video where Yasir Qadhi explains the reason behind Muslim conquests

 

[Maximus]

Again Ottamans took by forced and ottomans cant go and colonise other muslim land dont using Quran to justified colonilism
Saudi had every right to rebel if their been colonise by ottomans

The saudis came from the Najd/land east of it.
The Hejazis were the ones that rebelled, the Saudis conquered Hejaz after WWI.

Also, ever since the fitnahs and the Abbasid Revolution, the Arabs have ever been in a state of turmoil.

The Turks actually bought 400 years of peace to the Holy cities, Syria, and Palestine.

The Persians would occasionally attack Mesopotamia but it was safe for most of the time.

You have to understand that the Arabs had fought numerous times against each other. The Turks conquered the Mamluks and kept the peace until the arabs decided to believe in Big Papa Britain

 

[haqiiiiiin]

You're so dumb. The sahabas conquered other people's land in offensive Jihad. If I was a Muslim at that time and they wanted to rule my lands, I will accept it as Islamic brotherhood was alive at that time. Also, Offensive Jihad was halal at that time if they wanted to spread Islamic dominance and influence. Islamic conquests are the reason why Egypt and Persia are Muslim countries today.

Islam>>>>>>>>>Somali

Here's a video where Yasir Qadhi explains the reason behind Muslim conquests

If they did they are wrong and that make them bad and just cuz they did somethink wrong doesnt justified it
And make them right
LOL it is not Islamic brother if someone want to colonise my land and I dont see Islamic brotherhood you are submisive to arabs and ottomans and want to be their slaves if they want you to be their slaves you will accept that is how submisive you arelol

 

[CaliTedesse]

You're so dumb. The sahabas conquered other people's land in offensive Jihad. If I was a Muslim at that time and they wanted to rule my lands, I will accept it as Islamic brotherhood was alive at that time. Also, Offensive Jihad was halal at that time if they wanted to spread Islamic dominance and influence. Islamic conquests are the reason why Egypt and Persia are Muslim countries today.

Islam>>>>>>>>>Somali

Here's a video where Yasir Qadhi explains the reason behind Muslim conquests

Those people they conquered were against Muslims. Eventually being conquered and becoming Muslim they wanted the state.

Ottomans in beginning were caadi 3/4 of the time not really a caliph. Plus they conquered land from other Muslims. The real Caliph never did that.

 

[CaliTedesse]

Turks are pretty backward bunch who became more intelligent as they intermixed with other ethnic groups like Greeks and Armenians

 

[CaliTedesse]

Arabs are releasing new show on Ottoman Empire that exposes the backwards ways of the Empire.

 

[Apollo]

Turks are pretty backward bunch who became more intelligent as they intermixed with other ethnic groups like Greeks and Armenians

They didn't really mix, it was more like a Greek-Armenian-like population being subjucated by invading Central Asians. Maybe only 20% of their ancestry is Central Asian (non-Anatolian, of which only 10% Mongoloid/East Asian). They are 80% still the same Anatolians who lived there since forever.

 

[CaliTedesse]

They didn't really mix, it was more like a Greek-Armenian-like population being subjucated by invading Central Asians. Maybe only 20% of their ancestry is Central Asian (non-Anatolian, of which only 10% Mongoloid/East Asian). They are 80% still the same Anatolians who lived there since forever.

Anatolians are biggest naagos they always shift language and identity. Naaaagooooooooos

 

[Apollo]

Anatolians are biggest naagos they always shift language and identity. Naaaagooooooooos

From Kartvelian (Caucasus)-related languages, to Afro-Asiatic (Natufians went into Anatolia), to Indo-European (Hittites), to Turkic.

 

[imperialist]

You're naive. The Ottomans were an empire not a caliphate.

As for Ataturk, he's a respectable guy that fought against Britain, France, Italy & Greece e.g to save his nation after the empire crumbled. Ataturk guided the nation & laid the foundation for economic prosperity & modernity for his people.

That's seems to be the only good thing about him, of course it's a huge accomplishment. But aside from that, he had huge inferiority complex and his rule reflected that.

 

[SOMALI GENERAL]

From Kartvelian (Caucasus)-related languages, to Afro-Asiatic (Natufians went into Anatolia), to Indo-European, to Tukric.

A small minority of Turks want to change the official name of their country from Turkey to Anatolia lol.

I guess its because Anatolia sounds better.

 

[imperialist]

@Ayubi Do you think they would let you rule their land?

 

[Muslim]

If they did they are wrong and that make them bad and just cuz they did somethink wrong doesnt justified it
And make them right
LOL it is not Islamic brother if someone want to colonise my land and I dont see Islamic brotherhood you are submisive to arabs and ottomans and want to be their slaves if they want you to be their slaves you will accept that is how submisive you arelol

are you saying the sahabas was wrong for conquering lands

 

[Ayubi]

@Ayubi Do you think they would let you rule their land?

The Ottomans was an Islamic empire, not nationalist. They became nationalists when The Young Turks was founded which led to the collapse of the Caliphate.

You said "Do you think they would let you rule their land?"

My response: Allah knows best, The prophet said in the hadith, Obey your Imam even if he is an Ethiopian and he said this in front of a crowd of Arabs. Muslim unity is fundamental and inshallah, a new Muslim caliphate will be born again.

 

[Muslim]

The Ottomans was an Islamic empire, not nationalist. They became nationalists when The Young Turks was founded which led to the collapse of the Caliphate.

You said "Do you think they would let you rule their land?"

My response: Allah knows best, The prophet said in the hadith, Obey your Imam even if he is an Ethiopian and he said this in front of a crowd of Arabs. Muslim unity is fundamental and inshallah, a new Muslim caliphate will be born again.

preach my brother these guys are disguising their islamic hatred as arab hatred

 

[pablo]

The ottoman empire was Turkish empire who’s main religion was Islam.