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Ain’t there is Somali clan who used to be Harari but decided to join Somali ethnicity wise ?

Sheekhaal and karanle used to have connections with them too I forgot

 
Ain’t there is Somali clan who used to be Harari but decided to join Somali ethnicity wise ?

Sheekhaal and karanle used to have connections with them too I forgot


Do mean Oromos and not Hararis, by any misstake? The two clans you mentioned have more connections with Oromos today, than Hararis. And Oromo clans have also been Somalized. But I could be wrong? @Garaad diinle may possibly know.
 
I found this on Lipstick Alley. It was written by a Harari user there.

“As a Harari, I have to realise the difficult truth that the Hararis are are people and culture near extinction. We have been decimated by both the Oromo invasion and Amhara imperialism for the last few centuries. The Harari identity is on its death bed. I hope to carry the Harari culture and identity as long as I can, but I doubt we will exist in a few centuries with intermarriage and ethnic cleansing on the increase. We will be one of many high cultures that have been decimated by lesser cultures like the Oromos and I hope Harari culture will atleast be appreciated by those who will claim our city and legacies as theirs.

The Somalis around the area appreciated Harari intellectual culture and way of life for hundreds of years and have always been a friend of Harar. I hope they carry the banner of Harar when we are gone. The local Oromos have shown their face these last few years and I no longer consider them a friend of Harar.”

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Oh lord! What a sorrow story, and sentiments that many Hararis share. :ohhhdamn:

The demographic change of the city/region was intentional and planned to the details, and now they've achieved their objectives. :jcoleno:

Laakin, Hararis will iA recover and hopefully we can help and aid them in whatever way possible :rejoice:
 

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Ain’t there is Somali clan who used to be Harari but decided to join Somali ethnicity wise ?

Sheekhaal and karanle used to have connections with them too I forgot

You would have to be a little more specific, there were many somali clans that had presence in harar from isaaq to bartire, geri, issa, sheekhal, karanle and even a sub clan of harla kombe called awari. Will waal had his family intermarried to the sultan of harar in 1850s.
 

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You would have to be a little more specific, there were many somali clans that had presence in harar from isaaq to bartire, geri, issa, sheekhal, karanle and even a sub clan of harla kombe called awari. Will waal had his family intermarried to the sultan of harar in 1850s.
Who was will waal exactly, I always here rumours about him but no one has given his full story
 
Inshallah allah willing somalis will exist tall and strong until yom al-qiyama. In somalia if you would look at reer xamar or even the reer chimini people don't compline of people encroaching on their land and assimilating them but they still retain their culture. If hararis would've stayed with somalis they would live a hundred times better than they do right now.
Reer Xamar and Chimni don’t count. They’re literally mixed Somalis who have been mixing with Ajnabi traders for centuries. Their is nothing separate about them, nor do they really have a separate culture.
There is a systemic attack on the harari identity by the amhara settlers at large and the surrounding oromo population. There is literal effort to take over their land. After the war with ethiopia many harari and somalis were chased away from harar and replaced by amhara settlers and neighbouring oromos. It's not completely over and hararis will still exist but the situation doesn't look good.
I agree.
 

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Who was will waal exactly, I always here rumours about him but no one has given his full story
Will waal is a somali ruler or a garaad from the bartire clan who lived in jigjiga. Usally somali garaads have no real power but will waal was able to wrestling power away from his clan and became an official ruler. You could say he was the alpha of his time. His life story is interesting and was taught in school in somalia. He lived in the 19th century. There is much more to say about his life a number of books was writing about it but this is his story in a nutshell.
 
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Whats so special about them?
I cant tell them apart from oromos
Hararis look more like somalis than oromo. They are an ethnic close that are historically very close to somalis. They were apart of our empires and wanted to join Somalia twice, after independence and during the Ogaden war that they fought with us. They got genocided twice by amhara and oromo expansionists have taken over there region called “harar”. They used to own a good chunk of southern and central Ethiopia but lost all that to Oromo.
Their numbers are dwindling and there’s less than 200,000 worldwide. There would’ve been at least 10 million Hararis right now if it weren’t for Amhara Imperalism and Oromo expansionism.

Harar was the capitol of somali empires and it is a historic islamic city. It has the most mosques in the world and is considered the 4th holiest city after Jerusalem. It’s nickname is Madiah Al-Awliya which is city of saints. The city id famous for their city walls which Somalis built for Harar to keep Oromo out.

Inshallah when we liberate Ogaden they will join Somalia too. They don’t like the Oromo or Habesha, they only like Somalis.
 
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Hararis look more like somalis than oromo. They are an ethnic close that are historically very close to somalis. They were apart of our empires and wanted to join Somalia twice, after independence and during the Ogaden war that they fought with us. They got genocided twice by amhara and oromo expansionists have taken over there region called “harar”. They used to own a good chunk of southern and central Ethiopia but lost all that to Oromo.
Their numbers are dwindling and there’s less than 200,000 worldwide. There would’ve been at least 10 million Hararis right now if it weren’t for Amhara Imperalism and Oromo expansionism.

Harar was the capitol of somali empires and it is a historic islamic city. It has the most mosques in the world and is considered the 4th holiest city after Jerusalem. It’s nickname is Madiah Al-Awliya which is city of saints. The city id famous for their city walls which Somalis built for Harar to keep Oromo out.

Inshallah when we liberate Ogaden they will join Somalia too. They don’t like the Oromo or Habesha, they only like Somalis.
What the ethnic composition of Harar today?
 
What the ethnic composition of Harar today?
It's too late. They are minority in both the city of Harar and the regional state of Harar, and constitute only 9% of their region.

Hararis has suffered the most from Ethiopian Imperialism, to the point of extinction. There are only 25.000 Harari speakers left. In fact, the Harari language is not even required to be learned in Harar. :farmajoyaab:
To make matters worse, there are less than 70k Hararis in Ethiopia and about 20k-ish in the Harari regional state, and 12k-ish in their capital/largest city. Waxay u baahan yihiin gurmad si dagdag ah :ohlord:
 
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The more I hear about Oromo expansion the more I believe Somalia is going to get a Fuehrer Farah, it's simply a matter of time.
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