Hmm interesting....previous altercation you say?
Could’ve sworn this is the first time we’re meeting but whatever you say...
on more serious note, do you reside in SA? How long? What region if you don’t me asking. I was under the impression that Somalis live in constant fear there but it sounds like it depends on the region. Horta why don’t you guys bring your families to SA. Someone was telling me its predominantly men living there. I’m looking to move from the west, never considered SA before... maybe I should. Heard it’s ridiculously easy to set up shop, maybe import from China or something?
I have left Somalia 19 years ago ,
I spent several months in many countries during my tahriib before seeking asylum in Mozambique which took the entire process approximately four years I then arrived in South Africa.
I have been living in the townships of Soweto and Diepsloot and finished my elementary there , I then relocated to "Mayfair" a predominant Somali neighbourhood in Johannesburg I began my first year of secondary there and moved to Cape Town as it was difficult times to be a Somali , I have been living in this city for good ten years , I've seen both ugly and good sides , it's a place of contrasts.
I would say living in the townships were the worst experience , you become sleepless , depressed and even suicidal you worry about your safety and Somalis are not people that listen , just imagine this , you enter a deprived area , you set up a store right infront of them, according to your way of thinking you already know you are an asylum seeker , financially unstable and you risk being homeless if you were living in the city but you see this window of opportunity to alleviate the abject poverty that surrounded you since this is honest way to make a living but to the people of the townships hunger and Aids are so strife that you attract all the unnecessary attention , to these people it's like walking with chains of gold , Rolex or
nice takkies( fancy sneakers) in a dangerous , unsanitary, neglected shantytown where people eat the crumbs of bread , rotting food and even insects, the question is will you get robbed if not killed and your belongings taken?
The answers is yes , aslong you live there , these people only see you as a cash cow , your life will be a living hell.
Those are the main reasons why Spaza owners in any townships won't last few months , I would give them a Guinness World Record if they can last for more than 3 months. They always end up moving to different townships only to repeat the same mistakes over and over again.
And most newly arrived Somalis especially the younger males do not heed to the warnings of experienced , I guess we can say they're stubborn and a little disorganized, there is large gap between older and newer generation they see us entitled xaasids eventhough we warn them about the possible dangers but I guess not listening are the many factors why Somalia is still fucked up to this day.
Okay what about the cities? What's life like ?
In the cities it's still dangerous but nowhere near the townships , you may get harrassed by corrupt police officers or get extorted by gangsters , it depends on which municipality you reside in, I'm talking about my experiences in Johannesburg in general , there are opportunities that weren't available in the townships , you are entitled to have rights even when robbed , looted or stabbed you can file against , it has it's safe side and bad side.
But the feeling of anxiety and fears are miniscule. You only have to take precarious measure and avoid at all cost being at the wrong place , at the wrong time, it can get really ugly and you are prone to all degrees of crimes hence you have to take precautions also in that city if you are outside after 8PM be careful because that city shows it's true colours at night , most crimes happen once the sun sets.
Cape Town differs ,it may be the murder capital, random gang related shootings may happen but its nightlife is not so dangerous anroaming around till 3 AM or even 6 AM is possible although avoiding deprived areas and townships that intertwined within the city should be taken into consideration,as I have mentioned before it's a city of contrasts.
Despite the large numbers of single men displayed by the media, don't let it fool you , in some districts like in Belleville and Fairfield the ratio between couples and Iskaabulo are even , but if we were to address this in general there are more Somali males than females , even if we look at the age range , between the respective genders
there are 20-30 year old Somalis males and it is rare to find the same with their female counterparts which mostly consist from 0-10 yrs old and 30+ - 40 + , hence this brings irregularities and uneveness , many young males have mostly intermarried with Muslim Coloured women , immigrants like Oromos , Eritreans and etc while a small fraction of Somali men travelled to East Africa for marriage purposes, to some extent they bring their entire families.
It isn't easy to set a shop right away , it depends on which chain you'll form partnership with , you need to get licensed which would be approved by the ministry of commerce especially if you're an expat , there are several dual national Geeljires that live here , I will ask them once I see them.
There are people who left Canada , Netherlands and the UK and have shops and restaurants within the Somali neighbourhood and across the CBD .
so they don’t only attack us, they attack all Africans from outside their country?Do they also attack Indians and Chinese etc? It just black foreigners?
They attack Africans , Pakistani and Indian immigrants , it's not that often to hear White and third generation Indians owners to get attacked , one incident did make it on the headlines and they were protesting , Chinese people stay in China town there are few problems they faced but these people are so smart they got the attorneys involved. The same attorneys that African immigrants shit their pants.
It's sad story.
hindi>>madow>>cadaan imo in south africa saas weeye
True , have you ever heard of the Guptas.
