The conflation of Islamic core beliefs and Wahabism

[Samaalic Era]

Where is the ayats of the early Islam prohibiting complete sex during Ramadhan,

The laws of fasting were taught by the Prophet pbuh through jibril but not through Qur'anic revelation. It was similar to previous fasting except it was from sunrise to sunset rather than sunset till sunrise and they were prohibited from intercourse during their fasting period completely

 

[Basra]

The laws of fasting were taught by the Prophet pbuh through jibril but not through Qur'anic revelation. It was similar to previous fasting except it was from sunrise to sunset rather than sunset till sunrise and they were prohibited from intercourse during their fasting period completely

Interesting i think the reason we dont see abrogation reversal of the opposite is the ultimate wisdom of Allaah swt.

And on top of that, the mercy of Allaah swt since Allaah swt tried to be merciful and allow a little alcohol because it has a little use, until humans began to abuse the privilege. So i guess..the saying always goes best- Allaah swt knows best

 

[Aaegal]

I'm trying to grant you more freedom and you're against me.

Stockholm syndrome much?

 

[Basra]

I'm trying to grant you more freedom and you're against me.

Stockholm syndrome much?

I rather restrict my freedom and go to heaven than have freedom and then go to hell

 

[LaFlame]

Arabism?

 

[Basra]

Theres a difference between those who love Islam,the axkaam and oppose Arabism and those who hate Islam and the axkaam and hide behind accusing people of being Salafi when in truth, they oppose direct verses of the Qur'an. Things such as:
Hijab,
Free-mixing,
Laws of inheritance,
The punishment for theft and zina,
law of mahram,
The responibility of men over women
The order for women not to soften their speech and to remain at home

These are all mentioned in the Qur'an and can not be disputed such as the hadith. This is not wahabism but core Islamic belief.
Somalia will never prosper and attain glory by turning its back on Allah swt. Victory belongs to Allah swt alone and only through sincere submission to him, we will be victorious

How will u define Wahabisn in your words Samaalic?

 

[Aaegal]

What about the long term conseqeuences of free-mixing on a society?

Lust and greed are the precursors of a civilization heading to decline and collaspe

What consequences? I don't see western countries on the verge of collapse because they allow men and women to mix. Muslim countries on the other hand...

Honestly though, are you incapable of not thinking about sex when you're around women?

 

[Aaegal]

I rather restrict my freedom and go to heaven than have freedom and then go to hell

Meh...
If you're into being subservient to some man who controls your life I'm not stopping you.

 

[Aaegal]

Interesting i think the reason we dont see abrogation reversal of the opposite is the ultimate wisdom of Allaah swt.

And on top of that, the mercy of Allaah swt since Allaah swt tried to be merciful and allow a little alcohol because it has a little use, until humans began to abuse the privilege. So i guess..the saying always goes best- Allaah swt knows best

You basically just said god made a mistake. Why not ban it from the get go?

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

1. Oppose
2. Approve
3. Oppose
4. Oppose
5.
6. Oppose
7. Oppose

I agree with you.

 

[Samaalic Era]

How will u define Wahabisn in your words Samaalic?

Wahabism, if I define it in my words, is the promoting of Arab nationalism through the guise of Islam. Its doctrine places the Arab in a esteemed position where he can carry out atrocities and yet be loved and respected. In enables him to take over land and resources, destroy your language and heritage and recruit your sons to die for him while keeping his alive.

Its a political ideology

 

[Aaegal]

Wahabism, if I define it in my words, is the promoting of Arab nationalism through the guise of Islam. Its doctrine places the Arab in a esteemed position where he can carry out atrocities and yet be loved and respected. In enables him to take over land and resources, destroy your language and heritage and recruit your sons to die for him while keeping his alive.

Its a political ideology

All religion is political though...

 

[Samaalic Era]

All religion is political though...

Religion and politics do indeed go hand in hand.
To be more specific,Wahabism is a nationalist ideology while Islam is a way of life which has political components

 

[HIGH PRIESTESS]

By opposing wahabis, you have unwittingly become one my good friend @Samaalic Era. I can’t believe you can’t see that.

 

[3leven11]

Would you be happy with your husband socialising with non-mahrem women?

Wll, you will come to see the true reality of free-mixing and your views will change over time

I don't think socialising is inherently a negative thing. Should I not study engineering knowing that a lot of my classmates and coworkers will be male? Women and men need to learn to coexist and share public space better. I'm not sure how segregation can be done in a way that doesn't give women the short end of the stick.

 

[Samaalic Era]

By opposing wahabis, you have unwittingly become one my good friend @Samaalic Era. I can’t believe you can’t see that.

When you grow up in a safe environment and have food and shelter, you're views will be more linient and liberal compared to if you were raised in war torn and unjust society.

Only when you become a victim, would you be able to understand the wisdom behind these laws not to say im a victim. Im oppose any Arab political control over Somalia

 

[Samaalic Era]

I don't think socialising is inherently a negative thing. Should I not study engineering knowing that a lot of my classmates and coworkers will be male? Women and men need to learn to coexist and share public space better. I'm not sure how segregation can be done in a way that doesn't give women the short end of the stick.

If it is a debate or public intellectual discussion, then that is different to spending time with a non-mahrem in a private setting.

It depends on the scenario

 

[madaxweyne]

@Yonis @geeljire madaxweyne
The wahabists believe you must:

Have Arabic as official language
Have a Qurayshi leader
Interracial marriages
Follow Arab calendar
Teach Arab history
Fight for palestinian nonsense cause

There are many more

which is why i hate it sahib
1 we can't have arabic as an official language cause we have our own language
2 we can't have that cause no one is quraishi in somalia if we have that as our leader we are basically colonised by another people
3 interracial marriages, Wahhabi promote interacial marriages between somalis and madows or whatever we cant have that cause we do not want to destroy our culture and people
4 we cant follow an arab calender cause it doesn't go along iwthh our seasons
5 arab history we are somalis we cant have arab history cause we have our own history
6 we can't fight for Palestine cause its a nationalistic cause its not even islamic its a cause to fight and create an Arab nationalist state called palestine its actually
PS we can't fight for Palestine cause we are fighting for an arab state when somalis are not arabs

 

[Samaalic Era]

Arabism?

Arab nationalism with a Islamic cloak

 

[Basra]

Meh...
If you're into being subservient to some man who controls your life I'm not stopping you.

I am subservient to the Supreme God who created prophet Muhammad pbuh