The case for the Arabnes of Somalia

hanif#

Somalo-Arab
Somalia - like other Arab-African countries - is characterized by its dual identity(African & Arab). And despite some shortcomings like Somalis not speaking the Arabic language, there are still other elements that strengthen Somalia's claim to Arabnes.

1. Geographical position: It is one of the most important foundations on which Somalia's claim to Arabism is based. It is located in the prominent part of East Africa known as the Horn of Africa, and the site has great geopolitical importance. On top of religious and socio-economical similarities between the people of Somalia and the Middle East, the Somali peninsulas' terrain, Flora and fauna can also be said to be closer to that of the Middle East compared to other parts of tropical Africa.

2. Shared history: The common history that Somalis and Arabs have shared throughout history, the same hopes and pains created by the geographical location, and the single destiny that brings them together represent a major component of it's Arabism. Somalis and other Arabs have engaged in many struggles together in history. How can we forget the Arabs' contribution to the Conquest of Abyssinia(futh Al Habasha), bringing many troops and firearms which were new to Africa at that time?

3. The cultural factor: The existence of a common culture that brings together Somalis and Arabs is one of the most important reasons why Somalia was accepted to join the Arab League in 1974. Islam, the Arabic language, and customs and traditions represent the most important elements of Arab culture in Somalia. Islam, which all Somalis and Arabs embrace, unites the faith and message carried by both parties. The Arabic language, rooted in Somali culture, helps Somalis interact with their Arab brothers and the shared common customs and traditions like nomadism Create a single feeling and belonging.

The Somali people view Arabism and Islam as two sides of the same coin and consider the Arabic language a sacred language, and their Ethiopian Christian neighbors also consider Islam and Arabism to be one thing. The Ethiopian Emperor Haile Selassie expressed this when he said, "I have drawn up a thirteen-year plan to eliminate Arab influence,” he meant thus, the presence of Islam in Abyssinia.

With all that being and most Somalis at present and historically considering Arabs their kin it can't be ignored how the massive migration of Somalis to various regions of the world since the civil war has deepened the problems of identity - including
the Arabism of Somalia - because of the new cultures that Somali immigrants have acquired in the West and neighboring African countries.
 

Internet Nomad

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Somalis and Lebanese are not culturally similar or somalis and Egyptians.

Arab is a massive group and the only thing that ties them together is language and we don’t have it.

We are Arab adjacent but not Arab.

Culture, language and ethnicity.

We would need to at least have 2/3 for us to be considered Arab and we barely pass culture if you stretch it enough.

It’s okay to be somali. It’s okay to be Cushitic. It’s okay to be African.
 
Pan-Arabism is dead, the Turks have moved on, the Syrians have moved on, The Iranians have moved, the Yemenis have moved on, and so on.

For now it's every man/nation for themselves, besides, how you asking us to unite with the Middle East when they can't even unite with themselves? You're telling me an Arab wants to listen to and accommodate a Somali, literally amongst the lowest group of people in the world, when Somalis directly contribute to the worst of the Ummah PR relations (failed State, FGM, killing minorities etc.), you wanna help the Ummah? Help yourself first, most Arabs think lowly of you, wexee kuu maleyaan inaa dhad urtiin baah iska tihiin bisinka.
 

Internet Nomad

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Geographical location is a moot point as America, Canada, Australia, Uk, new Zealand are all very far from each other and they are all part of the anglophone community.

It doesn’t really matter how close we are as we are close to Kenya but our cultures are like day and night.
 

Internet Nomad

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Pan-Arabism is dead, the Turks have moved on, the Syrians have moved on, The Iranians have moved, the Yemenis have moved on, and so on.

For now it's every man/nation for themselves, besides, how you asking us to unite with the Middle East when they can't even unite with themselves? You're telling me an Aran wants to listen to and accommodate a Somali, literally amongst the lowest group of people in the world, when Somalis directly contribute to the worst of the Ummah PR relations (failed State, FGM, killing minorities etc.), you wanna help the Ummah? Help yourself first, most Arabs think lowly of you, wexee kuu maleyaan inaa dhad urtiin baah iska tihiin bisinka.
The Maghreb’s are moving on too they would rather be called amazigh than arab now.
 
The Maghreb’s are moving on too they would rather be called amazigh than arab now.

Remember the disgusting things these Gulf Arabs used to say about Maghreb women? And mind you, their phenotype is similar across the board, but some Abdi with a Code Lyoko tier forehead is telling me we're Arab.
 

Internet Nomad

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Remember the disgusting things these Gulf Arabs used to say about Maghreb women? And mind you, their phenotype is similar across the board, but some Abdi with a Code Lyoko tier forehead is telling me we're Arab.
Its naivety and coonery same way turks try and bum lick cadaans and say they are white or European even after how europeans still treat them like foreigners they still booty clap.
 
Oh Allah, please free us from topics related to Arabs.










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Yami

Trudeau Must Go #CCP2025
After what happened to Gaza I’m suprised to see people still taking Pan Arabism seriously
 

hanif#

Somalo-Arab
Pls if you have nothing of substance to contribute to the thread, don't reply or even open the thread.

I thank @Internet Nomad for giving his opinion respectfully and trying to respond to the points being made.
 

Khaem

VIP
Arabs are a thousand years past their golden age. Turks and Persians took over the middle east since. Even in the Arab golden age it was pushed forward by Persians who were brought into the caliphate. Why are you so desperate to claim these people?

Somalis are the purest cushites. A single tribe of people. We have no business identiting with these foreigners beyond common Islamic courtesy.
 

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