The Boni, Eyle, etc. are B2a or B2b

[Grant]

They are Bantu.

Omotic genetics are not found in Somalia.

Somalia only has ethnic Somalis (Cushitic in origin), Bantus, and Somali-South Asian Mulatto Benadiris. That's it.

Here is the UN position:

https://www.culturalsurvival.org/pu...uarterly/un-and-somalias-invisible-minorities

"A second minority category includes the diverse group of farmers who are not ethnic Somalis, living in much the same areas as the Rahanweyn and Digil. They include remnants of indigenous peoples, some of them originally speakers of the Cushitic languages (such as the Shebelle and Gabaweyn) and some Bantu. These peoples are mostly culturally assimilated to the Rahanweyn. The other groups are descendants of former slaves who established enclaves in the 19th century, chiefly in the Lower Shebelle and Lower Jubba valleys. Originally having retreated to the tsetse-infested woodlands on the riverbanks where no pastoralists ventured, they are often collectively known as WaGosha, "forest people". Many of these communities retain Bantu languages."

The Makanne and Shidley are covered in separate papers.

If you have DNA on these groups, share.

 

[Grant]

There is a massive argument here because the presence of some hunter gatherer group DNA does not necessarily meah they are originally Khoisan . This could have been caused by intermingling since the region is home nearly every kind of Africa group .There would have to be substantial testing on the Boni left in Somalia and Kenya to determine their origin .

The study you posted is inconclusive on
The origins of the Boni .

The Boni became clients/serfs to the Bajuni Bantus , that’s probably where the Bantu DNA came from . The Oromos, then the Darood came to dominate them .

Eyle aren’t mentioned in the study .

The Eyle are mentioned as East African Hunter Gatherers and they are on the map.

B2a/b is Khoisan. What Bantu in the Boni are you talking about, and how is the study inconclusive?

"All" is pretty definitive.

 

[Grant]

They are Bantu.

Omotic genetics are not found in Somalia.

Somalia only has ethnic Somalis (Cushitic in origin), Bantus, and Somali-South Asian Mulatto Benadiris. That's it.

Thought so. Now here's the proof.

https://www.somalispot.com/threads/my-ancestry-dna-test-results.42843/page-6

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[MARAQ DIGAAG]

Where Eyle tested in this study ? Where are they mentioned ?

It’s inconclusive unless you haven’t read your own study ?

 

[Apollo]

Thought so. Now here's the proof.

Those clans live primarily in Ethiopia or Kenya, dumbfuck. Not Somalia. And the ones that are Somalia restricted got it from Borana Oromo raids, not some exotic tribes in Somalia.

You are really stupid.

 

[Grant]

Those clans live primarily in Ethiopia or Kenya, dumbfuck. Not Somalia. And the ones that are Somalia restricted got it from Borana Oromo raids, not some exotic tribes in Somalia.

You are really stupid.

The last time I checked the Reewiin were the quintessential inter-riverine group and the host of numerous shegad clams, some of which are claimed by the UN to not be of Bantu origin. I have asked for DNA, which you don't seem to have. Now your own statements put the lie. Not only is there Omotic in Somalia, bujt it is in the right area. Read up on Shungwaya and the Gallo Madow wars. The indigenous farmers from the plain migrated up the rivers to escape the Oromo invasion.

 

[Apollo]

The last time I checked the Reewiin were the quintessential inter-riverine group and the host of numerous shegad clams, some of which are claimed by the UN to not be of Bantu origin. I have asked for DNA, which you don't seem to have. Now your own statements put the lie. Not only is there Omotic in Somalia, bujt it is in the right area. Read up on Shungwaya and the Gallo Madow wars. The indigenous farmers from the plain migrated up the rivers to escape the Oromo invasion.

I don't give a f*ck, they are Bantu. Unless they can prove they are 0% Bantu, they will forever be Bantus.

 

[Grant]

Where Eyle tested in this study ? Where are they mentioned ?

It’s inconclusive unless you haven’t read your own study ?

The Boni were studied directly. The Eyle are iincluded here:

Page 6:

1.2: East African Linguistic diversity To discern ancient events that might have recently shaped the extant genetic pattern in East Africa, I focus primarily on archaeological, linguistic and paleoclimatic data from the last 20 ky, with particular emphasis on the Holocene era (in the last 10 ky). This is because: a) the limit of resolution of the time to most recent common ancestry (tMRCA) of all language families in Africa is ~20 kya [56, 57]; b) Late Stone Age (LSA) industries in East Africa that are associated with specific groups of hunter-gatherer populations, for example the “Wilton” (that is associated with East African Khoisan speakers) [48, 56] and the Eburran (that is associated with other East African Holocene hunter-gatherers) [57] are estimated to have begun approximately 17 kya and 13 kya, respectively [57]; and (c) major events that are due to change in subsistence pattern such as development and spread of pastoralism [58, 59] and agriculture [60-64] took place within the last 10 kya.

Note here that the Wilton follows Stillbay and Doian, both of which are present at Buur Heybe:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buur_Heybe

https://anthrosource.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1525/aa.1955.57.6.02a00460

"The observed sequence begins with a Middle Stone Age Acheulio-Levalloisian culture, although the older collections suggest that an earlier, purely Acheulian, hand-ax industry is present in the Horn. A Lower Levalloisian developed from the AcheulioLevalloisian and in turn gave rise to an Upper Levalloisian. From the latter the Somaliland Stillbay probably arose, but Clark suggests that the presence of subtriangular unifaced and bifaced points, pressure flaking, and the absence of certain Levallois forms in Stillbay are cogent evidence for stimulus from some other part of Africa. The Acheulio-Levalloisian to Stillbay sequence occupied the period of the last (Gamblian) pluvial with Stillbay assigned to a dry phase at the very end of the period. In the postGamblian period the Stillbay tradition continued in the microlithic Magosian culture and ultimately into the barely prehistoric Doian; this development is characteristic of the eastern and southern Horn. In the north an intrusive blade and burin culture, the Hargeisan, appeared and together with a Levalloisian survival in the Ogaden gave rise to the Somaliland Wilton. All of these later cultures apparently were of hunting and gathering type, although pottery occurs in some deposits and rock paintings and engravings of late date and uncertain origin depict domesticated animals. To complete the picture, hunting and gathering groups exist at present in the less favored areas of the Horn."

 

[Grant]

I don't give a f*ck, they are Bantu. Unless they can prove they are 0% Bantu, they will forever be Bantus.

That's a whole bunch of Somalinimo speaking and not one bit of common sense.


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