The Adal Empire

[Young Popeye]

So now you are making your own history by revising Somali history and claiming our cities!!!!!

Listen Ahmed gurey was Somali and his tribe Marehan and this is full lineage"
Ahmed Gurey is Ahmed ibrahim Mataan Ciis Ahmed Mohamed Da'ud Abadir Muuse
Emire Nuur the relative who replaced him is Nuur Yusuf Mataan Ciis Ahmed Mohamed Da'ud Abadir Muuse"

what about his wife delwanbara daughter of emir of harar and governor of zaila? were somalis speaking a different language? we know ethiopians spoke geez and now its extinct. a plausible argument is harari and somali intermarried forming an alliance inorder to invade ancient ethiopia. the siad barre propaganda in somalia was that darod and harari were the same but why are they speaking a different language today?

 

[Canuck]

what about his wife delwanbara daughter of emir of harar and governor of zaila? were somalis speaking a different language? we know ethiopians spoke geez and now its extinct. a plausible argument is harari and somali intermarried forming an alliance inorder to invade ancient ethiopia. the siad barre propaganda in somalia was that darod and harari were the same but why are they speaking a different language today?

It is Zelia first and Somali language is one of oldest lower Cushitic languages & best documented Cushitic language and people of Harla that you are talking about them are extincted people and Prince Nur Prince of Harar who ordered to abolish the tribe used in Harar. I know that every one in horn like to claim Ahmed Gurey from Oromo to afar but he was Somali and his widow married his nephew the heir who was marehan tribe According to Somali tribal tradition that we practice till today ( that widows marry brother/cousin of dead husband)
Plus today Harar are mixed of all ethnic groups from Arab, Indian to Somalis which lost their tribal lineage.

 

[RudeBoi]

what about his wife delwanbara daughter of emir of harar and governor of zaila? were somalis speaking a different language? we know ethiopians spoke geez and now its extinct. a plausible argument is harari and somali intermarried forming an alliance inorder to invade ancient ethiopia. the siad barre propaganda in somalia was that darod and harari were the same but why are they speaking a different language today?

Everything that comes out of @Canuck mouth is Siad Barre propaganda.Take everything she says with a grain of salt!

 

[Canuck]

Thats a lie, Ahmed Gurey is not marehan, I have the original book called "futuh al-habasha". It doesn't say anything about his lineage, thats why theirs always a debate about where he was from. Some people have tried to manipulate the original text.

According to The Arab historians the Darood tribe is "Arab tribe " and their lineage goes back to Yemen, it is normal to describe them as the Arab in futuh book.

 

[Canuck]

Plz need to bring tribalism to our history, remember it is Somali history not one tribe history.

 

[Canuck]

Everything that comes out of @Canuck mouth is Siad Barre propaganda.Take everything she says with a grain of salt!

You are talking as if you knew me, although you just signed today or yesterday hmm!!!

 

[AceofSom]

It is Zelia first and Somali language is one of oldest lower Cushitic languages & best documented Cushitic language and people of Harla that you are talking about them are extincted people and Prince Nur Prince of Harar who ordered to abolish the tribe used in Harar. I know that every one in horn like to claim Ahmed Gurey from Oromo to afar but he was Somali and his widow married his nephew the heir who was marehan tribe According to Somali tribal tradition that we practice till today ( that widows marry brother/cousin of dead husband)
Plus today Harar are mixed of all ethnic groups from Arab, Indian to Somalis which lost their tribal lineage.

Please stop making up stories, theirs no place in the book,which says that Ahmed Gurey was Marehan or even mentions his origins.

 

[RudeBoi]

You are talking as if you knew me, although you just signed today or yesterday hmm!!!

Anyone who claims to be a MOD and is reciting kacaan revisionism will be called out! Don't cry about it hoe

 

[Bahal]

The futuh doesn't mention the Imam's clan at all nor did the Kacaan so not sure where this paranoia is coming from kkkkkk

 

[Canuck]

Anyone who claims to be a MOD and is reciting kacaan revisionism will be called out! Don't cry about it hoe

Plz do not call or addres me by your mum name "hoe".

 

[Canuck]

Here are some of the quotes from the book, we think are significant:
At this moment the companions of the imam screamed out, saying,‘The infidels have tricked us; they are after the livestock,’ whereupon the imam split his forces into two divisions: one he entrusted to Garad Ahmusa, composed of the Somali spearmen of the Marraihan, the Gorgorah and the Hawiya; around one-thousand of them from among the most famous spearmen. And from the soldiers bearing shields, the same number.
”He sent (another messenger) to the tribe of Marraihan whose chieftain was Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, and he also sent (messengers) to the outlying Provinces to spur them on to the jihad, for God, and in the way of the Most High God.
*160) Goita or Goyta, the Tegrenya for ‘master’ or ‘lord’, Francesco da Bassano, Vocabolario tigray-italiano, col.883, seems to have been sometimes used as a title and sometimes as a personal name.
The imam accepted his excuse, and then said to him:‘But no good will come to you from just wishing (that things will improve). Thereupon Hirabu appointed his nephew to command the Marraihan and they rallied around the imam -ninety cavalry and more than seven-hundred footsoldiers- with Hirabu bringing up the rear. The imam went back to his city of Harar, taking the tribe of Marraihan with him.”
”Then Hirabu the chieftain of the Somali tribe of Marraihan, killed one of the equerries of the sultan ‘Umar Din when he was in Nageb. The imam heard about what Hirabu had done, and he said to the Sultan ‘Umar Din,‘This Somali has acted treacherously towards you and killed your equerry.’ So the imam, and the sultan with him, prepared himself for an expedition and set out and arrived at the country of the Somalis, as far as Kidad. Hirabu. meantime, had fled and was hiding in his own country.The imam asked the sultan,‘What shall we do now? I am going to send for him to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money. If he does so, then all is well: if he does not, then I shall go against him, while you go back to your country.’ So the imam sent to Hirabu to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money to some sharifs of the family of Ba’ Alawi, the Husainites, may God bless us through their means.”
”The army camped around the city (Harar; my own barracks), with each tribe being kept apart from the others. The tribe of the Marraihan was, however, wavering. Their chieftain was a man fond of intrigue and procrastination. Extremely wily, he loved double-dealing and swindles. The imam organised some of his soldiers and went to the Marraihan and confronted Hirabu and his tribe and said to him:‘Why are you lagging behind in coming on the jihad? Hirabu complained about his plight, and excused himself on the grounds of his poverty-stricken state.
”A tribe called Girri then came to the imam. A dispute had arisen between them and their companions in another tribe called the Marraihan whose emir was called Hirabu, so the imam Ahmed sent a message to Hirabu emir of the Somalis, to make peace between them.”
”Now, having finished this, let us return to the earlier narrative, and look at what happened during the Somali campaign.When news of the imam’s leaving for the outlying provinces of Abyssinia reached them, a certain person, by name Hirabu, a chief of one of the Somali tribes called Marraihan, had arrived half-way along the route to the country of Harar. After verifying the departure of the imam to the land of Abbyssinia, he doubled back and returned to his own country.”
”He also sent (a messenger) to the tribe of Girri which was the tribe whose leader and chieftain was Mattan bin Utman bin Kaled, the Somali, his brother-in-law*

@somacoon

 

[Bahal]

Always chuckle at Goita Tedros (Lord Theodore), I think my nigga was playing both sides

 

[AceofSom]

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Here are some of the quotes from the book, we think are significant:
At this moment the companions of the imam screamed out, saying,‘The infidels have tricked us; they are after the livestock,’ whereupon the imam split his forces into two divisions: one he entrusted to Garad Ahmusa, composed of the Somali spearmen of the Marraihan, the Gorgorah and the Hawiya; around one-thousand of them from among the most famous spearmen. And from the soldiers bearing shields, the same number.
”He sent (another messenger) to the tribe of Marraihan whose chieftain was Hirabu bin Goita Tedros bin Adam*, and he also sent (messengers) to the outlying Provinces to spur them on to the jihad, for God, and in the way of the Most High God.
*160) Goita or Goyta, the Tegrenya for ‘master’ or ‘lord’, Francesco da Bassano, Vocabolario tigray-italiano, col.883, seems to have been sometimes used as a title and sometimes as a personal name.
The imam accepted his excuse, and then said to him:‘But no good will come to you from just wishing (that things will improve). Thereupon Hirabu appointed his nephew to command the Marraihan and they rallied around the imam -ninety cavalry and more than seven-hundred footsoldiers- with Hirabu bringing up the rear. The imam went back to his city of Harar, taking the tribe of Marraihan with him.”
”Then Hirabu the chieftain of the Somali tribe of Marraihan, killed one of the equerries of the sultan ‘Umar Din when he was in Nageb. The imam heard about what Hirabu had done, and he said to the Sultan ‘Umar Din,‘This Somali has acted treacherously towards you and killed your equerry.’ So the imam, and the sultan with him, prepared himself for an expedition and set out and arrived at the country of the Somalis, as far as Kidad. Hirabu. meantime, had fled and was hiding in his own country.The imam asked the sultan,‘What shall we do now? I am going to send for him to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money. If he does so, then all is well: if he does not, then I shall go against him, while you go back to your country.’ So the imam sent to Hirabu to hand over the horses, and to pay the blood-money to some sharifs of the family of Ba’ Alawi, the Husainites, may God bless us through their means.”
”The army camped around the city (Harar; my own barracks), with each tribe being kept apart from the others. The tribe of the Marraihan was, however, wavering. Their chieftain was a man fond of intrigue and procrastination. Extremely wily, he loved double-dealing and swindles. The imam organised some of his soldiers and went to the Marraihan and confronted Hirabu and his tribe and said to him:‘Why are you lagging behind in coming on the jihad? Hirabu complained about his plight, and excused himself on the grounds of his poverty-stricken state.
”A tribe called Girri then came to the imam. A dispute had arisen between them and their companions in another tribe called the Marraihan whose emir was called Hirabu, so the imam Ahmed sent a message to Hirabu emir of the Somalis, to make peace between them.”
”Now, having finished this, let us return to the earlier narrative, and look at what happened during the Somali campaign.When news of the imam’s leaving for the outlying provinces of Abyssinia reached them, a certain person, by name Hirabu, a chief of one of the Somali tribes called Marraihan, had arrived half-way along the route to the country of Harar. After verifying the departure of the imam to the land of Abbyssinia, he doubled back and returned to his own country.”
”He also sent (a messenger) to the tribe of Girri which was the tribe whose leader and chieftain was Mattan bin Utman bin Kaled, the Somali, his brother-in-law*

@somacoon

Absolute rubbish, I have the book here, and theirs nothing of these so called quotes. Which pages do these mysterious quotes come from?

 

[Canuck]

Absolute rubbish, I have the book here, and theirs nothing of these so called quotes. Which pages do these mysterious quotes come from?

 

[AceofSom]

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You have to have reference. Who is quoting these quotes and which pages of the book did they come from?

 

[The_Cosmos]

This tribalistic nonsense is exactly what brought war to Somalia. Who the bloody hell cares what tribe Ahmed Gurey belongs to, his a Somali figure that all Somalis should respect irregardless of tribe.

 

[Bahal]

I've read those passages myself tbf, Google says pg 120

 

[AceofSom]

I've read those passages myself tbf, Google says pg 120

Lol right... I am seeing where this is going, because I can bit my life on it, the word "Somali", wasn't used in the Futuh Al-habasha.

 

[RudeBoi]

Always chuckle at Goita Tedros (Lord Theodore), I think my nigga was playing both sides

Marexan were gaal :siilaanyolaugh:

Also Axmed Gurey wanted to chop this Tedrows nigga head off for killing the messenger Imam Axmed sent to him.He called him a "treacherous Somali"

 

[Canuck]

This tribalistic nonsense is exactly what brought war to Somalia. Who the bloody hell cares what tribe Ahmed Gurey belongs to, his a Somali figure that all Somalis should respect irregardless of tribe.

Because the afar tribe, Oromo tribe and even the habashi claimed Ahmed Gurey and they are trying to prove he is not Somali that is all. I had to defend our history.