Afweyne killed people so did the USC on tribal basis, why is one murderer condemned but another praised?
State funeral of the 5th President of Somalia, His Excellency Maxamed Faarax Ceydiid
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Wallahi everytime I mention Darood civilians and USC expansionist agenda in Mudug, I get a paragraph about Siad BarreIf he had stabilized the country and made a dowlad, we probably would not be residing in dar-ul-kufr right now. But I guess getting back at the evil Daroodians was a more appealing option.
Caydiid got a map where he wanted to push into Bari, like how he pushed into Lower Shabelle
Read my exact quote that quoted there, and you'll find the answer you are looking for.
Also, scale matters.
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It's the capital city of a nation I'm from. Why are you backwards fuckers so stupid?Horta why do you care of the progress of Mogadishu ?
Are you from that city ?
You cant convince us afweyne government was progress compared to the past 10 years , the past 10 years Mogadishu doubled economicly and in size .
We the resilent folks of Mogadishu are working hard to improve despite not able to elect our own mayor or have controll of its security.
Were not all lucky or developed like "your city" sorry if we disappointed you
The only thing that city has built resilience to is the inconveniences of a qarax saxiib. Its a crude rendition of what it previously was and its obvious why the best thing you can say about its current form is it's more developed than it was almost half a century ago.
Caydiid was a militia leader, like a dozen other were. How do you expect him to single-handedly "make a dowlad", when he didn't even have total control of the USC?If he had stabilized the country and made a dowlad, we probably would not be residing in dar-ul-kufr right now. But I guess getting back at the evil Daroodians was a more appealing option.
That thought process is so moronic and so far removed from reality, it continues to surprise that me people resort to it.
Stupid negro. He's burning in hell
TLDR: Barre destroyed Burco and Hargeisa, Aideed destroyed every city and our society. Had Aideed set up a government, Barre would have been captured and put to trail. All that needed to be done is pay reparations to the North for what happened in 1988.
By becoming a savage in 1991, Aideed cost every victim of the Kacaan from ever getting justice from Barre. They allowed Barre to escape and take looted cash with him, while they pillaged Somalia.
I said Siyaad was only slightly better than Aideed. Only because he actually ran a country horribly for twenty years compared to Aideeds anarchy.
Also Siyaad destroyed Hargeisa and Burco. Aideed destroyed everywhere from Bosasso to Kismaayo, raping, pillaging and murdering innocents in between. There is no comparison.
No, I have actually studied Somali history, meaning I have analysed comparative narratives of pre-colonial, colonial, Kacaanist and USC-Somalia. The latter period was the worst by a country mile.
Simple fact is that you are not being objective when you claim a warlord that started two decades of anarchy is better than a brutal dictator of a barely functioning country.
Both are horrible but I would take the dictator because that can be solved.
You completely misunderstood what I said and wrote an emotional response. Allow me to dumb it down for you.
I said all that needed to do in January 1991 was fix the North, with aid packages. With Siyaad not in power, he could have easily been put to trial alongside his associates and victims could have received justice.
I didn't mention the last part because that is what normally happens when a dictator is removed from power effectively.
However, Aideed and his partners screwed over victims of the Kacaan by not establishing a working government to get justice from the Kacaan. Furthermore, all the alleged gold stolen by the Kacaan would have been also captured if we had a functioning government after January 26, 1991.
Also, my family despise the Kacaan and barely any of my family were in Somalia post-1990, so Aideed did not directly affect me.
By becoming a savage in 1991, Aideed cost every victim of the Kacaan from ever getting justice from Barre. They allowed Barre to escape and take looted cash with him, while they pillaged Somalia.
I said Siyaad was only slightly better than Aideed. Only because he actually ran a country horribly for twenty years compared to Aideeds anarchy.
Also Siyaad destroyed Hargeisa and Burco. Aideed destroyed everywhere from Bosasso to Kismaayo, raping, pillaging and murdering innocents in between. There is no comparison.
No, I have actually studied Somali history, meaning I have analysed comparative narratives of pre-colonial, colonial, Kacaanist and USC-Somalia. The latter period was the worst by a country mile.
Simple fact is that you are not being objective when you claim a warlord that started two decades of anarchy is better than a brutal dictator of a barely functioning country.
Both are horrible but I would take the dictator because that can be solved.
You completely misunderstood what I said and wrote an emotional response. Allow me to dumb it down for you.
I said all that needed to do in January 1991 was fix the North, with aid packages. With Siyaad not in power, he could have easily been put to trial alongside his associates and victims could have received justice.
I didn't mention the last part because that is what normally happens when a dictator is removed from power effectively.
However, Aideed and his partners screwed over victims of the Kacaan by not establishing a working government to get justice from the Kacaan. Furthermore, all the alleged gold stolen by the Kacaan would have been also captured if we had a functioning government after January 26, 1991.
Also, my family despise the Kacaan and barely any of my family were in Somalia post-1990, so Aideed did not directly affect me.
Abdullahi Yusuf was a militia leader, he started a dowlad. SNM were militia and they started a dowlad.
The failure of USC changed the study of International Relations. Today, when major powers discuss regime change, they always consult the fall of Barre as the prime example as what not to do.
Before 1991, the US would usually fund a militia group to overthrow a government, sometimes violently, without it descending to anarchy. Somalia was the first time a modern nation state descended into pure anarchy, because of said militia group.
Somalis can choose to admire Aideed, but his name is tarnished in the history books.
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Cool story buds ,
I'm still not going to feel sorry for you ,
Doesnt it suck knowing your people couldnt even build a proper toilet in your village despite not going through what Mogadishu went through ?
This boorsoneeri peasant really thought he did something by calling me backwards lol
Siyad Barre created a lot even invented Somali Latin writing and multiple projects across Somalia. He had strong agricultural policy in Somalia. Build the military. Strong regime.Siad barre was worse than Aidid but Aidid is no mujahid.
Unlike Aideed that chased people out Muqdisho. Fought against his colleague Ali Mahdi. Literally destroying any building and looting anything.
I don’t know what’s worse
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Ciyaal booli qaran trying hard to convince us said barre time was better ,writing whole essays and shit 
I know you lack the IQ and basic logic. Moriyaans only know how to loot and rape. Moriyaans failed to create a government for 30years hence why they elected Farmaajo because they know themselvesCiyaal booli qaran trying hard to convince us said barre time was better ,writing whole essays and shit
Siyad Barre is gone more than 30yrs what have achieved. You even took xamar but there still Qashin and bombs and isbaaro.They're both burning in hell right now.
Who gave you PTSD? I'm not even from the anywhere near the South. Wallahi people like you are the living "unuga leh" meme, can't even want what's good for Mogadishu without one of you lot chimping out. I don't want to take your city, I just want it to function like normal city
Cool story buds ,
I'm still not going to feel sorry for you ,
Doesnt it suck knowing your people couldnt even build a proper toilet in your village despite not going through what Mogadishu went through ?
This boorsoneeri peasant really thought he did something by calling me backwards lol
I come from the North walaal I have toilets that are situated in areas that don't blow up. I wish the same for the biggest city in Somalia simply because it's my country.
President General Aideed AUN was dearly loved by the Somali People may he rest in eternal Peace, Ameeeeen
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He murdered, raped and looted.
He got killed from a simple wound because he either killed or forced out all the competent doctors.
He is in jahanam with Siyaad Barre.
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