I hear his son behind the shooting.
State funeral of the 5th President of Somalia, His Excellency Maxamed Faarax Ceydiid
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If you speak like this Xayawaan adaa ah.
Let's go back to a normal discussion.
You said my kinsman are responsible for what happened. If you mean the marexaan state apparatus then YES i agree they had some responsibility for what happened until 1991. But after 1991 it was the Hawiye miltias who destroyed the country. This is an undeniable fact.
Many innocent daroods were butchered including kids, women and elders.
I condemn the killing of your folks, you should condemn the killing of mine.
May he and whoever supports him forever burn in eternal hell.
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
VIP
I'm sure your hooyo and aabo told you afweyne was a hero who wasnt corrupted but there are many reports from somalis , ex kacaan government officials , u.n workers who all said afweyne and his mooryan regime looted the national bank befor fleeing the country.
You cant blame usc for your misery but the ppl they fought for are happy of the outcome . Somalia is doing much better then afweyne dictatorship where only his clan got education , only his clan had full controll of the nations economy .
There are 100× more hospitals ,highschools and universities in spread in somalia then the fascist regime .
You can pray and wish things could go back to the time you parasites were using somalias national wealth as your own personal bank account but sorry to break it to you that mistake will never happen again the autistic dictator cheese was just a hiccup.
Waryaa, you obviously didn't read any of my comments.
Go back and read
Your own hero Caydiid was educated in the USSR guess who payed ?
Somali universities? Your adeers sell medical and engineering licences in Xamar, that's what you call a university?
The only recognized degrees in somalia are the ones pre 1991
You seriously happy for the outcome?
How much deluded do you have to be
If your USC adeers are so good why did you leave or why did your family leave the country? I can bet you are diaspora. Your argument is invalid unless you are reer Muqdisho
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Xamar is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990Waryaa, you obviously didn't read any of my comments.
Go back and read
Your own hero Caydiid was educated in the USSR guess who payed ?
Somali universities? Your adeers sell medical and engineering licences in Xamar, that's what you call a university?
The only recognized degrees in somalia are the ones pre 1991
You seriously happy for the outcome?
How much deluded do you have to be
If your USC adeers are so good why did you leave or why did your family leave the country? I can bet you are diaspora. Your argument is invalid unless you are reer Muqdisho
Central Somalia is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
North East and North West Somalia/land is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
Good example is Hargeisa
Our literacy rate in 2018 was around 37.8%. In 1990 it was 24%
Our economy was dependent on aid in 1990, and still is today.
Our gdp has increased significantly since the kacaan regime
This fantasy of a utopian Somalia did not exist, and Barre leaving was statistically good for Somalia, as well as morally. You have no leg to stand on
Kacaanism is outdated, no Kacaanist can discuss what a Kacaan government would look like in 2021, there was no sustainable governing system laid down that could guide future generations. There weren't elections held so it's obvious if Afwayne died he would keep the power within his family, Somalia isn't like Arab countries where patron families inherit the state or like Egypt where dictators after dictators reign as it use to happen since the Pharoah, we Somalis are an eglitarian society, dad wax isku darsaday aan nahay. You know even the great Ahmed Gurey understood why it was important to have a puppet Sultan in Zeila, to protect the continuation of a state or state concept. Siad's attempt to mould the country would have only encouraged a generation of leaders to come and do the same thing, create a cult, mould the country to achieve a goal and everything else is collateral damage.
Woke1.4rm.Shibis
VIP
Waryaa, you obviously didn't read any of my comments.
Go back and read
Your own hero Caydiid was educated in the USSR guess who payed ?
Somali universities? Your adeers sell medical and engineering licences in Xamar, that's what you call a university?
The only recognized degrees in somalia are the ones pre 1991
You seriously happy for the outcome?
How much deluded do you have to be
If your USC adeers are so good why did you leave or why did your family leave the country? I can bet you are diaspora. Your argument is invalid unless you are reer Muqdisho
Dude most of my fams are still in banadir , and never left , I came to canada as economic migrant .
You cant compare the times if siad barre to now , ppl were defenseless against his brutall authoritarian . And the country was dirt poor
This brother breaks it down for you
Xamar is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
Central Somalia is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
North East and North West Somalia/land is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
Good example is HargeisaView attachment 189033
Our literacy rate in 2018 was around 37.8%. In 1990 it was 24%
View attachment 189034
Our economy was dependent on aid in 1990, and still is today.
View attachment 189035
Our gdp has increased significantly since the kacaan regimeView attachment 189036
View attachment 189037
This fantasy of a utopian Somalia did not exist, and Barre leaving was statistically good for Somalia, as well as morally. You have no leg to stand on
We in banadir are doing much better now , then when your illiterate booli qaraan ppl had every sec of the economy and even using the national bank as your personal bank
By early 1980s the economy collapsed and over 70% of rural population were in absolute poverty ,
I'm glad usc chased you parasites out , now I can enjoy watching crops grow in my lush
farms and invest in my city knowing that it wont be confiscated by a dictator regime
Gdp grows with time and population.Xamar is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
Central Somalia is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
North East and North West Somalia/land is more developed in 2021 than it was in 1990
Good example is HargeisaView attachment 189033
Our literacy rate in 2018 was around 37.8%. In 1990 it was 24%
View attachment 189034
Our economy was dependent on aid in 1990, and still is today.
View attachment 189035
Our gdp has increased significantly since the kacaan regimeView attachment 189036
View attachment 189037
This fantasy of a utopian Somalia did not exist, and Barre leaving was statistically good for Somalia, as well as morally. You have no leg to stand on
We had less people 30 years ago.
The Un litteracy estimate is BS, the governement said 90% all people in major cities were enrolled in schools, those who lived in baadiye were probably not part of the estimate but they were part of the mass litteracy campaign in the 1970s.
Before the wat we had a functioning flawed governement, now we have no governement and chaos.
Ask your parents, did bombs go off every month in Xamar in the 70s? Nope
Lol quruxda ku lahaa.
Few fancy hotels isn't qurux, post pics of destroyed neighborhoods and buildings that Still have bullets on the walls.
reer
VIP
you rather be a refugee for a whole generation where your grandparents likely to die in the west.When you're hate towards a people is so strong, you seethe at their progress.
AUN fellas gone so there's not much to say now. He squandered an opportunity to stop the turmoil and instead chose to be the first in a chain of ever worser dameers burning down the country.
Saxiib most of the people in this forum live in the west. We know what progress is iyo waxaas ma'ahan.When you're hate towards a people is so strong, you seethe at their progress.
My people are richer today than in 1990. I've gained much and lost zilch
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Most of those fancy hotels aren’t even hawiyas
everybody invests in xamar because it’s the capital a lot of darood are still there contributing and building up the city. Why don’t these idiots focus on dhuudomareb iyo their actual degaans? Xamar is a capital city with a very diverse population, it gets a lot of investment and has very little to do with habargithir
reer
VIP
congratulations on living in a western welfare state. i guess thats an improvement.
