Somali's GDP per Capita is false

[Idilinaa]

Here is another example of what we were talking about this is aacist guy quoting an article from a guy whos German and lived in Mogadishu investigating migration

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">11/ Michael also says there are financial reasons for deeming Somalia unstable: Security reports document every incident, no matter how trivial. This directly benefits security firms hoping to sell their services.</p>&mdash; Andrew Hammel (@AndrewHammel1) <a href="">June 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think you posted this to the wrong thread you probably meant to to share into Nigeria PR thread.

He is probably right it's become a lucrative industry for NGO & security firms to portray Somalia in a certain light even though it's totally safe overall.

but the assumptions made in the thread is partially false most new/recent asylum seekers are not actually Somali nationals, they are different Africans some are Somali but most are not they claim it to exploit the German immigration loopholes. They do the same in the UK etc.. They saw they are Somali nationals and they don't even have to prove it.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

I think you posted this to the wrong thread you probably meant to to share into Nigeria PR thread.

He is probably right it's become a lucrative industry for NGO & security firms to portray Somalia in a certain light but the assumptions made in the thread is partially false most new/recent assylum seekers are not actually Somali nationals, they are different Africans some are Somali but most are not they claim it to exploit the German immigration loopholes.

Nah I seen a chart of immigrants in ireland somalis were like 4th or 5th, Fobs back home still think the west is jano

 

[Idilinaa]

Nah I seen a chart of immigrants in ireland somalis were like 4th or 5th, Fobs back still think the west is jano

I think they should scrutinize it more cos i feel like it's inflated. Because many Africans especially Ethiopians try to arrive in those countries but they are unable to because their countries are deemed safe but Somalia is not and i think the success rate is high if you claim Eritrean, Somali or Syrian.

I say that because a Somali organization that keeps track came out to claim it not too long ago.

What he said is collaborated by the fact they listed people with names like Gabre Wounose and Risman Naitsoka as Somali migrants.

And the same goes for Germany

Half of asylum seekers entering Germany cannot prove identity

The German interior ministry says that around half of adults who came to Germany seeking asylum in 2020 failed to present documents to prove their name, nationality or date of birth.

www.infomigrants.net

Germany seizes fake Syrian passports in asylum inquiry

German customs officers seize packages containing Syrian passports amid reports that a black market in the documents is developing.

www.bbc.co.uk

So our crime stats are inflated but so is our migrant stats. It's probably half of what is shown.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

I think they should scrutinize it more cos i feel like it's inflated. Because many Africans especially Ethiopians try to arrive in those countries but they are unable to because their countries are deemed safe but Somalia is not and i think the success rate is high if you claim Eritrean, Somali or Syrian.

I say that because a Somali organization that keeps track came out to claim it long ago.
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What he said is collaborated by the fact they listed people with names like Gabre Wounose and Risman Naitsoka as Somali migrants.
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And the same goes for Germany

Half of asylum seekers entering Germany cannot prove identity

The German interior ministry says that around half of adults who came to Germany seeking asylum in 2020 failed to present documents to prove their name, nationality or date of birth.

www.infomigrants.net

Germany seizes fake Syrian passports in asylum inquiry

German customs officers seize packages containing Syrian passports amid reports that a black market in the documents is developing.

www.bbc.co.uk

So our crime stats are inflated but so is our migrant stats. It's probably half of what is shown.

This is actually insane, it all makes sense now cause you cant get deported back to somalia because somalia is considered a warzone

pleae walaalo make a thread on this with all the sources you have ill get someone to post it

 

[Barkhadle1520]

I think they should scrutinize it more cos i feel like it's inflated. Because many Africans especially Ethiopians try to arrive in those countries but they are unable to because their countries are deemed safe but Somalia is not and i think the success rate is high if you claim Eritrean, Somali or Syrian.

I say that because a Somali organization that keeps track came out to claim it not too long ago.
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What he said is collaborated by the fact they listed people with names like Gabre Wounose and Risman Naitsoka as Somali migrants.
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And the same goes for Germany

Half of asylum seekers entering Germany cannot prove identity

The German interior ministry says that around half of adults who came to Germany seeking asylum in 2020 failed to present documents to prove their name, nationality or date of birth.

www.infomigrants.net

Germany seizes fake Syrian passports in asylum inquiry

German customs officers seize packages containing Syrian passports amid reports that a black market in the documents is developing.

www.bbc.co.uk

So our crime stats are inflated but so is our migrant stats. It's probably half of what is shown.

Look at this, Ethiopians are doing the same in Arabia

https://www.sayidaty.net/node/19672...مع/انتحال-الجنسية-الصومالية-للعمالة-الأثيوبية

 

[Barkhadle1520]

I think they should scrutinize it more cos i feel like it's inflated. Because many Africans especially Ethiopians try to arrive in those countries but they are unable to because their countries are deemed safe but Somalia is not and i think the success rate is high if you claim Eritrean, Somali or Syrian.

I say that because a Somali organization that keeps track came out to claim it not too long ago.
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What he said is collaborated by the fact they listed people with names like Gabre Wounose and Risman Naitsoka as Somali migrants.
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And the same goes for Germany

Half of asylum seekers entering Germany cannot prove identity

The German interior ministry says that around half of adults who came to Germany seeking asylum in 2020 failed to present documents to prove their name, nationality or date of birth.

www.infomigrants.net

Germany seizes fake Syrian passports in asylum inquiry

German customs officers seize packages containing Syrian passports amid reports that a black market in the documents is developing.

www.bbc.co.uk

So our crime stats are inflated but so is our migrant stats. It's probably half of what is shown.

3 out of 5 asylum seekers lied about being Somali

"The applicants are posing as Somalis to boost their chances of being granted refugee status because they are less likely to be deported back to the war-torn country."
https://www.hiiraan.com/news4/2009/Oct/12430/asylum_seekers_posed_as_somalis.aspx?utm_source=

Out of 104 qsylum seekers who claimed Somalia, only 8 were Somali and the rest were from tanzania and ethiopia
https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/asylum-seekers-posed-as-somalis/26572986.html?utm_source=

I found so many cases like these and I just asked my mom she told me its a well known trick LMAO

 

[Idilinaa]

This is actually insane, it all makes sense now cause you cant get deported back to somalia because somalia is considered a warzone

pleae walaalo make a thread on this with all the sources you have ill get someone to post it

There are more discrepancies that support this, which I can share later. I don’t want to derail the thread too much right now. But this issue could easily be addressed if the federal government pushed international bodies to officially recognize Somalia as a safe country. Ethiopia is able to do this and it's literally in a civil war.


That would cut off the incentive for tahribers (illegal migrants) and also stop other Africans from falsely claiming Somali nationality for asylum."

 

[sums20]

I think they should scrutinize it more cos i feel like it's inflated. Because many Africans especially Ethiopians try to arrive in those countries but they are unable to because their countries are deemed safe but Somalia is not and i think the success rate is high if you claim Eritrean, Somali or Syrian.

I say that because a Somali organization that keeps track came out to claim it not too long ago.
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What he said is collaborated by the fact they listed people with names like Gabre Wounose and Risman Naitsoka as Somali migrants.
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And the same goes for Germany

Half of asylum seekers entering Germany cannot prove identity

The German interior ministry says that around half of adults who came to Germany seeking asylum in 2020 failed to present documents to prove their name, nationality or date of birth.

www.infomigrants.net

Germany seizes fake Syrian passports in asylum inquiry

German customs officers seize packages containing Syrian passports amid reports that a black market in the documents is developing.

www.bbc.co.uk

So our crime stats are inflated but so is our migrant stats. It's probably half of what is shown.

I heard about this some American news network did a thing on it and some Kenyan family was interviewed anonymously and was like yeah i lied I don't regret it. Also multiple other Africans have done it I think they go into the refugee camp get assigned somali and hope they get accepted into the West. One guy went in and regretted it but couldn't escape deserved icl.
Found it https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2JZsmGRB8LzAUP24A1-uDz

 

[Idilinaa]

The plan includes centralized urban planning: underground cabling, connected neighborhoods, green spaces, and dedicated bicycle paths. It’s a modern, integrative vision driven by local expertise ,not outsourced gimmicks.

They are doing something similar in JigJiga



They have launched an urban development corparation in Mogadishu

About – New Mogadishu Development Corporation

nmdcs.com

But Mogadishu's plan is questionable how they going to fund, execute and coordinate it?

At least JijJiga has already collected the revenue for it and Hargeisa’s high tax compliance gives it a better foundation if paired with real reforms and planning. Then there is also the questions about institutional capacity.

@Barkhadle1520 @Midas

How JigJiga is shaping up. A lot look like it's still under construction though

 

[Midas]

@Barkhadle1520 @Midas

How JigJiga is shaping up. A lot look like it's still under construction though

While jijiga is very nice and clearly developing a thought that occurred to me recently is where are all the other big cities in the Somali region ?

Even if the somali region doesn't have 25 million people it has probably has at least 15 million . Where are the Hargeisa, Bosaso,kismayo of the somali region. There should be several other cities that are smaller but still pretty huge .

 

[LacagChaser]

While jijiga is very nice and clearly developing a thought that occurred to me recently is where are all the other big cities in the Somali region ?

Even if the somali region doesn't have 25 million people it has probably has at least 15 million . Where are the Hargeisa, Bosaso,kismayo of the somali region. There should be several other cities that are smaller but still pretty huge .

Ethiopian population numbers are seemingly suspicious. For a population of 130m+ the country is a city state, you would think they’d have more major cities.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Ethiopian population numbers are seemingly suspicious. For a population of 130m+ the country is a city state, you would think they’d have more major cities.

they have a 20% urbanisation rate if I remember correctly

 

[Midas]

Ethiopian population numbers are seemingly suspicious. For a population of 130m+ the country is a city state, you would think they’d have more major cities.

Yeah my perspective on the entire horn of africa shifted when I realized of the 5 largest urban centers 3 of them were somali. as well as the fact that the main centers of culutral production in the horn was also mainly somali cities.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

@Barkhadle1520 @Midas

How JigJiga is shaping up. A lot look like it's still under construction though

Mogadishu is very suspicious tbh, its also really confusing... theres videos by albayrak that show that theyre building a brand new city with new trams around the new port and airport which doesnt make sense, plus the housing will probably be super expensive like those gated comunities in hargeisa, garowe and mogadishu but the difference is that there will be no diaspora to fill these up

Ngl the mogadishu projects look fishy

 

[Idilinaa]

While jijiga is very nice and clearly developing a thought that occurred to me recently is where are all the other big cities in the Somali region ?

Even if the somali region doesn't have 25 million people it has probably has at least 15 million . Where are the Hargeisa, Bosaso,kismayo of the somali region. There should be several other cities that are smaller but still pretty huge .

Jigjiga is the capital that's why i am showing it. But is not the only place receiving development

There are many small towns Qabri Dahare, Dagaxbuur, Gode, etc

Leaving aside Dire Dawa, the second biggest town is Fiiq i persume.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Jigjiga is the capital that's why i am showing it. But is not the only place receiving development

There are many small towns Qabri Dahare, Dagaxbuur, Gode, etc

Leaving aside Dire Dawa, the second biggest town is Fiiq i persume.

How can I send a private message on this website

 

[Idilinaa]

Jigjiga is the capital that's why i am showing it. But is not the only place receiving development

There are many small towns Qabri Dahare, Degehabur, Gode, etc

Leaving aside Dire Dawa, the second biggest town is Fiiq i persume.

They are also building developments in Qabri Dahare @Midas
@Barkhadle1520

This is the difference urban planned development makes

Mogadishu is very suspicious tbh, its also really confusing... theres videos by albayrak that show that theyre building a brand new city with new trams around the new port and airport which doesnt make sense, plus the housing will probably be super expensive like those gated comunities in hargeisa, garowe and mogadishu but the difference is that there will be no diaspora to fill these up

Ngl the mogadishu projects look fishy

There are almost no transparency even so we don't even know the ins and outs. So it's hard to tell anything as of now.


JigJiga urban planning is using money they have raised domestically through taxes to fund it and they are all hiring local people and local contractors, companies etc to carry it out so it's creating jobs for them based on what the Mayor said.


But i found a video explaining the development

 

[Hotchick12]

I heard about this some American news network did a thing on it and some Kenyan family was interviewed anonymously and was like yeah i lied I don't regret it. Also multiple other Africans have done it I think they go into the refugee camp get assigned somali and hope they get accepted into the West. One guy went in and regretted it but couldn't escape deserved icl.
Found it https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...AQFnoECCEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2JZsmGRB8LzAUP24A1-uDz

aren’t those somali kenyans i mean they are easier to blend, my father is djiboutian his passport says mogadishu so does my mother and she’s from somali galbeed

 

[sums20]

aren’t those somali kenyans i mean they are easier to blend, my father is djiboutian his passport says mogadishu so does my mother and she’s from somali galbeed

Probably not I'm pretty sure they aren't somali at all maybe they posed as a somali bantu or smth bc otherwise how did they get away with it?

 

[Hotchick12]

Probably not I'm pretty sure they aren't somali at all maybe they posed as a somali bantu or smth bc otherwise how did they get away with it?

those in charge of the camps in kenya were commonly somali kenyans, tarhibing from libya easier to fake somalis but the camps they had checks and balances, a lot of somali kenyans also got into dadaab camps