Somali leftist, pro Palestine anti west, mocks the genocide against Uyghurs

[Aurelian]

She talk against the Zionist for committing a genocide, and them mocking it online, yet she does the same thing.

 

[Homerlilian]

Not my future wife. Getting cooked on Twitter

 

[Cartan Boos]

@Khaemwaset come get u girl fam

 

[Khaemwaset]

@Khaemwaset come get u girl fam

I think I'll take a step back

 

[reer]

believing atheists over a muslim testimony.

 

[Keep it a boqol]

Digital sisterhood, a podcast created by somali muslim women beefing with a somali communist. This is Somali on Somali violence

 

[JamalFarah]

Communism, socialism, and other leftist ideologies fundamentally clash with Islam at their core. When one disregards the testimonies and concrete evidence provided by Muslims, it reveals that faith takes a backseat in her worldview compared to the man-made collective ideology.

 

[Omar del Sur]

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[reer]

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uyghurs themselves came out and are talking about their persecution. if you believe a kafir atheist over a muslim who is genuinely telling you he is being wiped out you have severe deficiency in iman and need to do more than most people.

 

[Ximan iyo Xadeed]

She talk against the Zionist for committing a genocide, and them mocking it online, yet she does the same thing.

Chinese are evil

 

[Omar del Sur]

uyghurs themselves came out and are talking about their persecution. if you believe a kafir atheist over a muslim who is genuinely telling you he is being wiped out you have severe deficiency in iman and need to do more than most people.

Prove from Quran and Sunnah that I have to believe bearded people who appear on my laptop screen. I have never met a Uyghur in real life. I have no idea what they say. How do I know some Uyghur who appears on BBC is really a representative of Uyghurs as a whole? I don't think I have an obligation either way, to believe or not to believe a bearded person who appears on a screen.

Also, I don't believe the Uyghurs are being genocided in the sense of what's happening in Gaza. I believe they're being massively subjected to brainwashing in Communist re-education camps as China has a history of doing to people.

 

[reer]

Prove from Quran and Sunnah that I have to believe bearded people who appear on my laptop screen. I have never met a Uyghur in real life. I have no idea what they say. How do I know some Uyghur who appears on BBC is really a representative of Uyghurs as a whole? I don't think I have an obligation either way, to believe or not to believe a bearded person who appears on a screen.

Also, I don't believe the Uyghurs are being genocided in the sense of what's happening in Gaza. I believe they're being massively subjected to brainwashing in Communist re-education camps as China has a history of doing to people.

if you never lived in a city with uyghurs be quiet. atleast youre not a tankie anymore.

 

[Omar del Sur]

also to elaborate on this supposed duty we have of believing bearded or hijab-wearing people who appear on our screens.... if this is a real obligation we have, then if CNN shows some Afghan woman then I would be obliged to believe her and believe she speaks for Afghan. in reality, I've never met an Afghan woman (though I've met some Afghan men), so if an Afghan woman appears on CNN, I have no idea if she really speaks for Afghan women. Similarly, I don't form conclusions about Muslim ethnicities based on what I see online. you might see see some online accounts of a particular Muslim ethnic group and they might be totally unrepresentative of what that group is like in real life.

 

[Omar del Sur]

if you never lived in a city with uyghurs be quiet. atleast youre not a tankie anymore.

I was never a tankie. and my point is simply that I have no obligation to believe strangers that I see on screens.

 

[reer]

I was never a tankie. and my point is simply that I have no obligation to believe strangers that I see on screens.

you wouldve been a neutral on the soviet invasion yeah? only west is evil. atheists get excuses.

 

[Omar del Sur]

you wouldve been a neutral on the soviet invasion yeah? only west is evil. atheists get excuses.

I want my enemies to lose and I believe winning may involve some seemingly questionable means sometimes. I would not back down an inch on my anti-imperialist views... or forget who my enemy is.

Anyways, that being said, no, I support the Afghan resistance to the Soviet invasion. I am not an "Axis of Resistance" type. I have been attacking Iran and calling Assad a kaffir for years. If I really had "Axis of Resistance" "West-has-a-monopoly-on-evil" mindset, I would not attack Iran and the Houthis (although I've been quiet on the Houthis lately as I support their efforts against zionists) and takfir Assad.

My stance isn't that Putin and Assad and Xi Jinping are heroes fighting the West and that the West has a monopoly on evil. I am unyieldingly opposed to Western imperialism and for very good reason... however, I believe the US, Russia, North Korea, China, North Korea and Cuba are all controlled by the international Jewish-Masonic conspiracy. You may think that is crazy or a myth but that is genuinely what I believe and I discussed this in my recent "world is run by freemasons" thread.

 

[JamalFarah]

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''I think it's understandable that she thinks the Uyghur thing is fake propaganda.''
No it isn't, when we have the mountain of testimony, testimonies of refugees, video and written records, buildings and concetration camps then no it isn't justified to do so.

Your argument relies heavily on framing the debate as Imperialist versus Anti-Imperialist, where we are compelled to support the "Anti-Imperialist" side. However, this oversimplified dichotomy overlooks the fact that every nation acts in its own self-interest. Countries like Russia and China can be just as oppressive, if not worse, towards their citizens and other nations. While acknowledging the wrongdoing of the West, we cannot ignore the atrocities committed by other powers, such as China's debt-trap diplomacy and the involvement of Wagner Group militias in war crimes in the Sahel region.

Being anti-colonial or "third-worldist" does not automatically align one with the interests of oppressed peoples. Many third-world countries are perpetrators of injustice themselves, as seen in the examples of Congo and Libya. Muslims in the Soviet Union and China have historically been and continue to be treated abhorrently, demonstrating that these collectivist ideologies are fundamentally opposed to our existence.

The reason why many people oppose her stems from the perception that in the past, certain Muslim-socialists have compromised their faith to align with leftist views rather than integrating socialist beliefs within the framework of Islam. This perceived selling out of their faith, corrupting it to fit left-wing ideologies, contributes to the criticism directed towards her and others like her.

We have seen this time and time again, it tends to be these left-wing muslims that want to break down and change the tenants of Islam.

That's why whenever people encounter someone like her, the suspicion that she might be, to put it bluntly, a "Muslim coon" working as a fifth column for communism within the Muslim community is incredibly high.

 

[reer]

''I think it's understandable that she thinks the Uyghur thing is fake propaganda.''
No it isn't, when we have the mountain of testimony, testimonies of refugees, video and written records, buildings and concetration camps then no it isn't justified to do so.

Your argument relies heavily on framing the debate as Imperialist versus Anti-Imperialist, where we are compelled to support the "Anti-Imperialist" side. However, this oversimplified dichotomy overlooks the fact that every nation acts in its own self-interest. Countries like Russia and China can be just as oppressive, if not worse, towards their citizens and other nations. While acknowledging the wrongdoing of the West, we cannot ignore the atrocities committed by other powers, such as China's debt-trap diplomacy and the involvement of Wagner Group militias in war crimes in the Sahel region.

Being anti-colonial or "third-worldist" does not automatically align one with the interests of oppressed peoples. Many third-world countries are perpetrators of injustice themselves, as seen in the examples of Congo and Libya. Muslims in the Soviet Union and China have historically been and continue to be treated abhorrently, demonstrating that these collectivist ideologies are fundamentally opposed to our existence.

The reason why many people oppose her may stem from the perception that in the past, certain Muslim-socialists have compromised their faith to align with leftist views rather than integrating socialist beliefs within the framework of Islam. This perceived selling out of their faith, corrupting it to fit left-wing ideologies, could contribute to the criticism directed towards her and others like her.

We have seen this time and time again, it tends to be these left-wing muslims that want to break down and change the tennants of Islam.

That's why whenever people encounter someone like her, the suspicion that she might be, to put it bluntly, a "Muslim coon" working as a fifth column for communism within the Muslim community is incredibly high.

they sound like liberal zionists/pro israelis when talking about palestinians.

 

[Angelina]

This is what extreme adherence to an ideology gets you that is deeply black or white, a denial of even the persecution of your own Muslims.

I say this because that account is obsessed with anti-imperialism and anti-capitalism, hence for her anything uttered by the imperialist West must be a lie, even if it’s corroborated by Muslims who are going through it. She believes it’s a political ploy utilized by the West to smear Chinese influence. But two things can be right at the same time.

 

[Angelina]

''I think it's understandable that she thinks the Uyghur thing is fake propaganda.''
No it isn't, when we have the mountain of testimony, testimonies of refugees, video and written records, buildings and concetration camps then no it isn't justified to do so.

Your argument relies heavily on framing the debate as Imperialist versus Anti-Imperialist, where we are compelled to support the "Anti-Imperialist" side. However, this oversimplified dichotomy overlooks the fact that every nation acts in its own self-interest. Countries like Russia and China can be just as oppressive, if not worse, towards their citizens and other nations. While acknowledging the wrongdoing of the West, we cannot ignore the atrocities committed by other powers, such as China's debt-trap diplomacy and the involvement of Wagner Group militias in war crimes in the Sahel region.

Being anti-colonial or "third-worldist" does not automatically align one with the interests of oppressed peoples. Many third-world countries are perpetrators of injustice themselves, as seen in the examples of Congo and Libya. Muslims in the Soviet Union and China have historically been and continue to be treated abhorrently, demonstrating that these collectivist ideologies are fundamentally opposed to our existence.

The reason why many people oppose her stems from the perception that in the past, certain Muslim-socialists have compromised their faith to align with leftist views rather than integrating socialist beliefs within the framework of Islam. This perceived selling out of their faith, corrupting it to fit left-wing ideologies, contributes to the criticism directed towards her and others like her.

We have seen this time and time again, it tends to be these left-wing muslims that want to break down and change the tenants of Islam.

That's why whenever people encounter someone like her, the suspicion that she might be, to put it bluntly, a "Muslim coon" working as a fifth column for communism within the Muslim community is incredibly high.

Unfortunately, people aren’t able to understand the concept of nuance and that two things can be right at the same time. Is China usually tarred by the Imperialist West due to political reasons? Yes, but is China also committing gross human rights violations against our fellow Muslims? Yes. Their limitations is that everything must be one or the other and that is what a strict blind adherence to an ideology leaves you.