Somali lady attacked with brick by madow thug after rejecting him

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Three Moons said:
Its ironic though how all the demographics that love to scream that ‘Somalis are black’ are now shouting from the top of their lungs on Twitter that she is ‘Somali’ and not one of them.
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They never see somalis as one of the because we are completely different. They only want to force the madow identity onto us for various reasons.
Pay no mind to these Shisheeye, as much a foriengier to me as an cadaan.
 
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Angelina said:
The drake concert point is pure hypocrisy as Somalis have no issue with a hijabi at a Suldaan seerar concert with freemixing and dancing. In fact hijabis at that concert sing and dance on stage and it’s often posted on TikTok. People pick and choose don’t they? It’s not about morality but the whims and desires of men.
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Yep, its not even religion but protective jealousy, which every ethnocentric ethnicity practices, some of them violently in the form of honour killings, ours is ostracism. At a Suldaan Seerar concert, all the men are ‘other’ Somali men, at a Drake concert, that’s not the case, though there would be tons of Somali men present, including Drake’s own close friends.

I have seen the same dynamics with Algerian and Turkish friends that I grew up with who displayed passive-aggressive irritation towards me whenever a woman from their communities showed interest in me, while we were hanging out in the mall, because despite being friends since childhood they still could not accept their women, even if unrelated, being in a premarital relationship with an Ajanabi like me. Lucky for them I had no interest in their women but now that I’m older I do have a better understanding of the conflicting feelings they must have been going through, and its actually our mothers who instill protective jealousy within us, not our fathers, so women can’t just wipe their hands clean of this situation.


Angelina said:
Really goes to show how men aren’t held accountability for nothing. Murder, promiscuity and the list goes on. It’s a man’s world and your point of society is very much ‘men’. Society is held together by the whims and desires of the male and those in power very rarely hold themselves accountable.
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Do you see it changing anytime soon? And how? In the meantime my advise for women would be to stay clear from these kind of crowds or environments, you will find no sympathy from the Ajanabis or the Somali community.
 
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Three Moons said:
Yep, its not even religion but protective jealousy, which every ethnocentric ethnicity practices, some of them violently in the form of honour killings,
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Three Moons said:
ours is ostracism. At a Suldaan Sereer concert, all the men are ‘other’ Somali men, at a Drake concert, that’s not the case, though there would be tons of Somali men present, including Drake’s own close friends.

I have seen the same dynamics with Algerian and Turkish friends that I grew up with who displayed passive-aggressive irritation towards me whenever a woman from their communities showed interest in me, while we were hanging out in the mall, because despite being friends since childhood they still could not accept their women, even if unrelated, being in a premarital relationship with an Ajanabi like me. Lucky for them I had no interest in their women but now that I’m older I do have a better understanding of the conflicting feelings they must have been going through, and its actually our mothers who instill protective jealousy within us, not our fathers, so women can’t just wipe their hands clean of this situation.
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I wouldn’t call it protective jealousy but belief in ownership. A woman who is dancing at a Somali concert would get attacked less than a Jilbabi Xalimo who doesn’t freemix but with let’s say has a practicing Egyptian husband. People would call her cheap, despite marrying in a halal way with her fathers permission. Protective jealousy would be a husband not wanting his wife at such environments I mentions such as a Somali concert.

As for your interesting point about mothers, can you explain please? How do they install protective jealousy? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending women as a whole because as of late, I’d had to dig deep and have come to the realization that a lot of the misogyny in our community stems from the way we women raise our sons. My generation not so much, but older Somali women have incredibly toxic self hating views that oppress themselves, their daughters and daughter-in laws. I’ve seen older mother in laws insert themselves into a happy marriage lamenting why her daughter in law who is a doctor or teacher isn’t waking up at the crack of dawn to make breakfast for her husband. Baring in mind the husband (her son) is completely fine with the set up he has with his wife and is compassionate enough to understand that since she works, she’s not going to be able to do everything. A lot of misogynistic values and views wouldn’t be able to continue without having older women guarding and inflicting those views.



Three Moons said:
Do you see it changing anytime soon? And how? In the meantime my advise for women would be to stay clear from these kind of crowds or environments, you will find no sympathy from the Ajanabis or the Somali community.
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I totally agree. I don’t see any value in going to those places. I did even see any values in going to unIslamic Somali events. Ultimately, people shouldn’t lead a Godless life.
 
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Garaad Awal said:
She definitely deserved it, she’s the type to say extremely vile shit because she is a woman and knows most men wouldn’t touch her.

She met the wrong nigga that night tho cause he clearly didn’t care 💀 He’s definitely going to jail tho

https://x.com/jelonmusks/status/1698591672999809175?s=46&t=YaEpqd-hefiVw7MIC5Ni_g
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She just slapped a random guy in this clip and then started twerking @Nin123 basically the female version of you 💀



Anyways everyone deserves help however some people go to environments where those that are around generally won't help and those that can simply won't be around to ever help.
 
Three Moons

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Angelina said:
I wouldn’t call it protective jealousy but belief in ownership. A woman who is dancing at a Somali concert would get attacked less than a Jilbabi Xalimo who doesn’t freemix but with let’s say a practicing Egyptian. Protective jealousy would be a husband not wanting his wife at such environments are mentions such as a Somali concert.
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Yes and no, there is also a much larger version of protective jealousy pervasive in conservative societies. That same sentiment that you consider ‘ownership’ would also manifest itself in ‘Somalinimo’. If a Somali man had to choose between two strangers tied to a track with a train coming your way and he could save only one person; you, a Somali woman, or the other an Egyptian woman. He would choose you.

The lines between love, protection, entitlement, ownership are very grey and blurry if you’re honest with yourself and undo the Hollywood rom-com programming.

Angelina said:
As for your interesting point about mothers, can you explain please? How do they install protective jealousy. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not defending women as a whole because of late, I’d had to dig deep and have come to the realization that a lot of the misogyny in our community steps from the way we women raise our sons. My generation not so much, but older Somali women have incredibly toxic self hating views that oppress themselves, their daughters and daughter-in laws. I’ve seen older mother in laws insert themselves into a happy marriage lamenting why her daughter in law who is a doctor or teacher isn’t waking up at the crack of dawn to make breakfast for her husband. Baring in mind the husband (her son) is completely fine with the set up he has with his wife and is compassionate enough to understand that since she works, she’s not going to be able to do everything. A lot of misogynistic values and views wouldn’t be able to continue without having older women guarding and inflicting those views.




I totally agree. I don’t see any value in going to those places. I did even see any values in going to unIslamic Somali events. Ultimately, people shouldn’t lead a Godless life.
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Mothers leave their sons to do as they please, but our female siblings are given specific instructions on how to dress, behave and conduct themselves in society. That sends a signal to every boy early on in their lives that their sisters have more value, contain more honour and should be protected more than a male sibling. I don’t necessarily see this as toxic, I think we need to be just as on point with our sons in the diaspora because unlike in Somalia where the entire society would be raising Somali boys, over here with the scattered Somali communities they will fall through the cracks.

I agree with the other points you made.
 
Mozart

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You need people like me
You can’t claim to despise ‘degenerates’ and then focus so much on their lives.

Either some of you wish you could live like them or you’re insane.
 
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Three Moons said:
Yes and no, there is also a much larger version of protective jealousy pervasive in conservative societies. That same sentiment that you consider ‘ownership’ would also manifest itself in ‘Somalinimo’. If a Somali man had to choose between two strangers tied to a track with a train coming your way and he could save only one person; you, a Somali woman, or the other an Egyptian woman. He would choose you.
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But Somali women would also choose the Somali man whilst respecting his autonomy to marry who he wants. I don’t think I’d care if I was to see a Somali man with an Indian. I think I’d still save him over an ajnabi. But then again women are raised to see men as people who can carve out and self-determine what they want and that’s why I do believe it’s ownership. Women have been reduced to objects for millennia, and that belief has trickled down. So why would this be different?
Three Moons said:
The lines between love, protection, entitlement, ownership are very grey and blurry if you’re honest with yourself and undo the Hollywood rom-com programming.
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Three Moons said:
Mothers leave their sons to do as they please, but our female siblings are given specific instructions on how to dress, behave and conduct themselves in society. That sends a signal to every boy early on in their lives that their sisters have more value, contain more honour and should be protected more than a male sibling.
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I think we’ll have to agree to disagree. Our value is typed to towing the line, whilst men’s values is tied to existing. The same Somali hooyo would be forgiving towards her gang banging son, but would disown her daughter for sexual misconduct. Also, women’s honor is connected to that of her male family members, it isn’t even her own. The reason why a woman is protected from certain activities is because it’s a stain on her father and brother. Example up until recently, by law men who r-word women could avail punishment if they marry their victim. That law was about protecting male family members. It was Alhamdulliah recently abolished in Somalia. So how are women valued and protected for them, if it is seen as acceptable to force her to be with her abuser….her tormenter, just to save the face of the men in her family? Women have no inheritant value under that system. It’s ownership.

Also, have you ever heard them say nonsense like ‘nin waa boqol, naag for Kontun’. Meaning a man’s 100 and a woman is 50. They use the Islamic inheritance system to say that men have more value when the reason for men inheriting more isn’t because of that. I heard it a lot from older women when I was back home.
Three Moons said:
I don’t necessarily see this as toxic, I think we need to be just as on point with our sons in the diaspora because unlike in Somalia where the entire society would be raising Somali boys, over here with the scattered Somali communities they will fall through the cracks.

I agree with the other points you made.
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Back home isn’t much better. A lot of the social issues minus gangbanging is there. High divorce rates, women crying about lack of provision and the list continues and even the ‘gangbanging’ comes into the form of qabil wars and looting each others lands.
 
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Abdisamad

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Angelina said:
lol, you have a perpetual victim mentality. Doesn’t it get exhausting? Like you’re a man. Not once did I mention Somali men attacking that girl or blame them whatsoever.
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Well you came at us even when we didn't brick this ratchet xalimo, anyway why are you always so defensive and look everything through gender lenses? We both know her own choice of life and behavior led to this, how about some accountability? Beside there was once a madowfied ratchet farax who got beaten or something similar and no farax had a sympathy for him, he was getting rediculed left and right.. But you gotta turn everything into gender fkd.
 
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Abdisamad said:
Well you came at us even when we didn't brick this ratchet xalimo, anyway why are you always so defensive and look everything through gender lenses? We both know her own choice of life and behavior led to this, how about some accountability? Beside there was once a madowfied ratchet farax who got beaten or something similar and no farax had a sympathy for him, he was getting rediculed left and right.. But you gotta turn everything into gender fkd.
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You’re incredibly disingenuous. I came at them for saying she deserved it. Why would you pile on a woman who was bricked? If you want to twist my words, go ahead.

Holding someone accountable isn’t the same as saying they deserved to be hurt. Don’t use accountability to justify abuse you illiterate. Learn the meaning.

I don’t expect much from a perpetual victim, who wants an excuse to cry.
 
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