Somali Dad Stands Up for Autistic Child After White Woman Hurls Slurs in Rochester, MN

Am I one of the few Somalis who genuinely understands the value of privacy and handling matters discreetly and calmly?

I understand recording someone for evidence , that’s sensible. But what I don’t understand is turning around and uploading that footage to social media instead of taking it directly to the police or filing a formal complaint. That kind of move isn’t about justice , it’s about going viral. And it often backfires.


Even worse, why would you do that when you have serious allegations or a criminal record attached to your name that the public can easily look up? You're not helping the cause , you're dragging it through the mud and bringing unnecessary attention to yourself.


Maybe that guy just has nothing to lose , no sense of privacy, no dignity, no life to protect or maybe he’s just another attention-hungry fool.


But let’s be real, you didn’t fight racism. You tanked your own reputation and gave a racist criminal crackhead a platform and viral fame and now even wealth. All for what? A few likes and outrage clicks? You could’ve just told her off and moved on with your day.


Somalis should learn from this. Value your privacy. Stop chasing attention online. Not everything needs to be a public outcry or a trending hashtag. Handle things quietly, legally, or brush it off. Don’t let clowns and bigots control your mood or your future.
 
They will literally donate millions and bail out worst offenders and people likes this only on racial or political grounds.
What’s hard to understand? They don’t actually give a f*ck about her they want revenge for karmelo Anthony and all the other examples of blacks defending the garbage in their community.
 
1m?

Absolutely crazy. For saying ni**er?

Think I'm gonna make my own riwaayad. Get an cadaan girl to do the same thing live on camera, but instead give her a backhand and pretend to kick her whilst she's lying on the floor.

Should be raking in $5m...me and the girl will do a 50/50 split.
 

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1m?

Absolutely crazy. For saying ni**er?

Think I'm gonna make my own riwaayad. Get an cadaan girl to do the same thing live on camera, but instead give her a backhand and pretend to kick her whilst she's lying on the floor.

Should be raking in $5m...me and the girl will do a 50/50 split.
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not only BLM, all that DEI training and asking cadaans to be less racist as had the opposite effect. We did some intersectionality training at a place I was working and a few of the cadaans felt they were being targeted. And this is liberal UK lol. The intersectionality/BLM brought race to the fore , so you know have cadaans playing their own identity politics.

as for the story, feel sorry for the kid. f*ck his dad if he’s a nonse.
 

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How did he do that? The average person dislikes the white woman for what she did, while only racist people funded her because they share the idea that one can bully autistic black kids. Her getting crowdfunded doesn't reflect anything more than people like her wanting to express their deep hatred and support their expression of hatred. Catering to that or cowering is not reasonable. But the average white person looks at that woman and thinks she is evil. You place more value on the racist people's side, buddy. They don't own you.

I never knew part of being an immigrant was to take shit from racists. I don't remember signing a clause that said that.

And by the way, he filmed for plausible deniability and evidence. These types of White women do the most vile shit and it has happened to me. She even threatened to attempt to call the cops. If he did not have proof, she would cry and start claiming he harassed her. So yh, not only is it good that he filmed. It's nice he put it up because one can tell she would double down the next time she hit the playground among immigrant children.

Even most racist people will look at bullying an autistic kid with slurs as over the top, although I never underestimate the stupidity of these guys and how low they will go.:icon lol:
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You can dress this bad take as much as you want, but if you tell Somali kids they're black as a first identity, they will become more black, as in their expression and their values mirror African Americans, more so than Somali. You cannot have this on-and-off switch. By the way, the other stuff about negativity is an obsfuscation. No one here talks about acting negatively and this notion that Somalis universailly is seen as a problem is just bullshit that only lives on the internet. You should touch grass. Somalis get along with other people, be it Africans or whatever, and we find ourselves in cosmopolitan places. Life is not a twitter thread, so spare me the emotional dweeb nonsense. It gets old and repetitive, at least pretend you spent your childhood outside and not on social media bubbles.

To blend in, you have to remove what is Somali, otherwise, people will always pick you out. In that process, you change identity. That is not a reversible thing. By the way, Black is not an ethnicity. The "Black" identity in America is African American ethnic identity, and we can never be that regardless. People from Africa who are not Bantu or West African consider the black thing as most tertiary, and the overwhelming Somalis don't deny it in the streets in a social setting. But that is not an identity but more so solidarity outside our identity, which is nice but not primal to who we are. You have to learn to weigh what this means.

Whoever changes their identity to be less visible and caters to other identities over their own is a self-hater. That is the definition. You can pretend it is practical, but it is what it is. People only f*ck with weak peoples and we're not more vurnerable than others. Stop painting us as weak just because your mind is.

Besides, you're naive if your black flag-waving will have people not distinguish you as soon as negativity comes your way. They will instantly say, "She says she's black, but she is Somalian." That is the reality. I have seen this before. People who want to hate will find reasons, and we look too distinct, and are distinct. That is a fact. People can either like us for what and who we are otherwise they can f*ck off. The far majority of people, and I mean 98% are cool.

If some African homie says, we're black, I say, sure. It's not that deep because it is nothing more than convenient solidarity. It does not mean I am what they are. That does not mean we're one people other than the in-situ thing. At the end of the day, I don't play their cultural flutes, and they have never eaten camel meat. So let's get real and not make it bigger than what it is. We can come together and say we're "black" in ways that are instrumental, constructivist, and pragmatic in the West because there are commonalities in certain social conditions, but we're not the same people.

I've faced racism, and so have other African people. Are we the same people? No. Does that mean we can't work together and recognize that fighting common challenges, banding for those frontier goals, if we face challenges with the dominant cultures of the host countries? Of course not. We can, and that still does not make us one, generally. Perhaps one in that cause, in that goal, in that moment. But that itself does not define my ethnic identity. Any people that does not respect you until you assimilate with them do not respect you at all. That is why I don't rock with pan-Africanism.

Does that make me less African or hostile to other cultures? f*ck no. I probably have the most African and the most diverse friends in this forum. People on this forum who have this conversation are extremely one-track-minded. Any conversation about identity that does not come with nuance is ideology. "Oh, you don't consider yourself black, you must think you're white." I don't have time for that stupidity. I am more closer to a black person than a white person in many things in general, but an African American and a White American are in one cultural group, while I am distinct from both. They're both Western people. I am not. And what makes me closer to an African American than a White American likely has little to do with culture. We're generalizing here, I rock with cool people no matter where they are from.

At the end of the day, I am about values. If some guy is a Western liberal, we have less in common than some other person who shares more values with me. I rock with the latter more. This means if you're a Westernized liberal woman who happens to be Somali, I might rock with anybody but you. Skinfolk are not always kinfolk to me.
Lol. So many Somalis act like black Americans and will scream that they are not black. Everywhere Somalis migrated to in the west, there are Somali gangs… even in Scandinavia where there aren’t many black people.

I didn’t say anything about teaching young kids that they are black first. I didn’t say anything about pan africanism either. That doesn’t even exist in real life. Pan africanism is dead and will never be a real, successful movement.

I said dumb Somalis on the internet brought unwanted and negative attention to our ethnicity when they could’ve just been quiet like Eritreans, Sudanis and Ethiopians. Not everything about our identity needs to be screamed down everyone’s throats. Eritreans view themselves differently to black people but they’re not annoying and loud about it. We didn’t have to loudly isolate ourselves because look at what it has caused.

Somalis online were not smart enough to calmly explain how different Africans are to each other. Instead, they distanced themselves from blackness and trolled everyone and used words like j*reer as a slur. These other people then viewed it as Somalis being self hating or having a superiority complex. All of this just could’ve been completely avoided if Somalis were just quiet and not as visible. Or if the distancing wasn’t done so poorly. If anything this distancing has created more self haters since being Somali is now being associated with self inflicted negative stereotypes because of dumb somali boys online.

Regardless, it’s too late now. We are a fragmented community with no outside support currently being targeted by racist cadaans
 
Lol. So many Somalis act like black Americans and will scream that they are not black. Everywhere Somalis migrated to in the west, there are Somali gangs… even in Scandinavia where there aren’t many black people.

I didn’t say anything about teaching young kids that they are black first. I didn’t say anything about pan africanism either. That doesn’t even exist in real life. Pan africanism is dead and will never be a real, successful movement.

I said dumb Somalis on the internet brought unwanted and negative attention to our ethnicity when they could’ve just been quiet like Eritreans, Sudanis and Ethiopians. Not everything about our identity needs to be screamed down everyone’s throats. Eritreans view themselves differently to black people but they’re not annoying and loud about it. We didn’t have to loudly isolate ourselves because look at what it has caused.

Somalis online were not smart enough to calmly explain how different Africans are to each other. Instead, they distanced themselves from blackness and trolled everyone and used words like j*reer as a slur. These other people then viewed it as Somalis being self hating or having a superiority complex. All of this just could’ve been completely avoided if Somalis were just quiet and not as visible. Or if the distancing wasn’t done so poorly. If anything this distancing has created more self haters since being Somali is now being associated with self inflicted negative stereotypes because of dumb somali boys online.

Regardless, it’s too late now. We are a fragmented community with no outside support currently being targeted by racist cadaans

Gangs are not a "Black cultural" thing. I don't know why y'all keep thinking this way. And Scandinavia is not a monolith , there are no organized Somali gangs in, say, Norway or Finland. People love to project what happens in Sweden onto the whole region, when in reality it's the result of failed integration policies and the societal alienation immigrants experience there.

People are shaped by the environments they settle into. Take Minnesota, for example , the gangs that formed in the early 2000s weren’t about copying "madow culture." They formed in response to real threats from white supremacist gangs like the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, All-American Boys, and Boogaloo Boys, who were targeting Somali youth while law enforcement looked the other way.

Interestingly enough it has more to do with White Americans gangs than Black American gang culture.
The gangs were created much in response to white gangs that were targeting Somalis and they turned to them to defend themselves from it.

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But this was in the early 2000s, gang activity of all types have either stopped or been on a decline since. Primarily out of Somalis introduction into local law enforcement which has provided Somali security for their community through legitimate means.

Similar dynamics happened in parts of the UK. Somalis have often been settled in neighborhoods that were hostile to them from the beginning


I also don’t agree with this idea that Somalis are isolated. In fact, we’re one of the most transnational and well-connected diasporas out there.

And honestly, it wouldn’t matter how Somalis behaved online , Africans and other Black groups have always seen Somalis as “non-Black others.” The only reason Somali trolls gain traction is because their actions confirm the deeply held prejudices that already existed. Whether it’s about our appearance (being accused of being mixed), our Islamic identity (which brings anti-Arab or Islamophobic resentment), or simply our distinctiveness , we’ve always had our Blackness questioned, long before the “j-word” was even a thing online.

Another part of this is how we operate like other “middleman minority” groups (look up the term). Just like the Jews, Chinese, and others, Somalis have maintained a strong sense of ethnic and cultural cohesion and that’s something people often find threatening. Especially in contrast to some communities that have historically sought acceptance from white power structures or come in with feelings of inferiority. Somalis don’t operate from that angle and that makes others uncomfortable.

So when Somalis emphasize being Somali and not just “Black” it’s seen as self-hate. But that actually reveals more about how others are willing to water down, erase, or abandon where they come from in order to fit in. That’s not a Somali problem.

In fact, rather than being fragmented, it shows the opposite. Somalis are some of the most socially cohesive and self-supporting people out there. We’ve had to be. We've faced race-based and ethnic-based targeting from the minute we arrived in the West.
This isn’t some new “troll trend” this is survival, and we’ve always found a way to rise above the hate.

Respectability politics won’t save us. Trying to fit in or earn approval by being “quiet,” polite, or overly polished doesn’t change anything. Racism doesn’t go away because you're nice. Plenty of communities have tried that, and they still face the same discrimination. Real power comes from building your own structures, your own networks, your own institutions , not from begging others to see your humanity.

And my earlier point wasn’t about worrying over how we look to racists or how Africans or other Black people perceive us , many of them have their own internalized self-hate and issues. Their neighborhoods and economies are controlled by outsiders. Their anger about racism often boils down to a craving for validation from white people.


What I was really saying is that Somalis should protect their privacy and move wisely , but that’s hard to expect in a clout-chasing, social media-obsessed world.
 
Gangs are not a "Black cultural" thing. I don't know why y'all keep thinking this way. And Scandinavia is not a monolith , there are no organized Somali gangs in, say, Norway or Finland. People love to project what happens in Sweden onto the whole region, when in reality it's the result of failed integration policies and the societal alienation immigrants experience there.

People are shaped by the environments they settle into. Take Minnesota, for example , the gangs that formed in the early 2000s weren’t about copying "madow culture." They formed in response to real threats from white supremacist gangs like the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, All-American Boys, and Boogaloo Boys, who were targeting Somali youth while law enforcement looked the other way.





Similar dynamics happened in parts of the UK. Somalis have often been settled in neighborhoods that were hostile to them from the beginning


I also don’t agree with this idea that Somalis are isolated. In fact, we’re one of the most transnational and well-connected diasporas out there.

And honestly, it wouldn’t matter how Somalis behaved online , Africans and other Black groups have always seen Somalis as “non-Black others.” The only reason Somali trolls gain traction is because their actions confirm the deeply held prejudices that already existed. Whether it’s about our appearance (being accused of being mixed), our Islamic identity (which brings anti-Arab or Islamophobic resentment), or simply our distinctiveness , we’ve always had our Blackness questioned, long before the “j-word” was even a thing online.

Another part of this is how we operate like other “middleman minority” groups (look up the term). Just like the Jews, Chinese, and others, Somalis have maintained a strong sense of ethnic and cultural cohesion and that’s something people often find threatening. Especially in contrast to some communities that have historically sought acceptance from white power structures or come in with feelings of inferiority. Somalis don’t operate from that angle and that makes others uncomfortable.

So when Somalis emphasize being Somali and not just “Black” it’s seen as self-hate. But that actually reveals more about how others are willing to water down, erase, or abandon where they come from in order to fit in. That’s not a Somali problem.

In fact, rather than being fragmented, it shows the opposite. Somalis are some of the most socially cohesive and self-supporting people out there. We’ve had to be. We've faced race-based and ethnic-based targeting from the minute we arrived in the West.
This isn’t some new “troll trend” this is survival, and we’ve always found a way to rise above the hate.

Respectability politics won’t save us. Trying to fit in or earn approval by being “quiet,” polite, or overly polished doesn’t change anything. Racism doesn’t go away because you're nice. Plenty of communities have tried that, and they still face the same discrimination. Real power comes from building your own structures, your own networks, your own institutions , not from begging others to see your humanity.

And my earlier point wasn’t about worrying over how we look to racists or how Africans or other Black people perceive us , many of them have their own internalized self-hate and issues. Their neighborhoods and economies are controlled by outsiders. Their anger about racism often boils down to a craving for validation from white people.


What I was really saying is that Somalis should protect their privacy and move wisely , but that’s hard to expect in a clout-chasing, social media-obsessed world.
Exactly. Yes, Somali men are over represented when it comes to gang violence, in regards to our small statistics in several countries like here in the Netherlands where Somali men commit the most crime compared to all refugee groups and are one of the highest groups overall, only rivaling Moroccan and black Caribbean but in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of a deal since we are a very small population. And outside of one Somali gang that exist in Sweden (forgot it's name), i have yet to see organized crime like that compared to the organized crime in Europe/The west like that of the Balkan/Turkish/Albanian/Moroccan/Iraqi, Kurdish/Lebanese etc.

Many of the black people have admitted themselves that they bullied Somalis because they saw them as a weak target and did consider us/them foreign as we were muslim, new to the west and looked different. This was even before the loud Somalis starting go off on them on social media.

Ultimately we Africans have just a different history compared to race and most of us would first identify with our nationality/ethnicity than race and for many that suffer from inferiority complexes especially towards us Horners, they take this as an insult against them and think that we are better than them. And since it's us Somalis that have a larger presence and population than other Honders in the West, we get the most shit of them, as in accusing us of being self-haters for not calling ourselves black. You see this same sentiment towards Ethiopians and Eritreans from certain black diasporans, especially in the US since many Ethiopians live there in DC.

The only thing they get going is that the Habeshas are overall very insular, both online and offline and because of religious similarities there are more intermarriages between them than we with black Americans/caribbeans. I know many that are half black American or Caribbean (jamaican) and half eritrean/Ethiopian.

But this case is just a race-baiting shit and will be forgotten in couple days, just like everything else. They really want to start a race war and sadly some of us want to be caught up with this instead of minding our business. For some reason many Western Somalis want to advocate and meddle in everyone's business, to the point that i have almost never seen this behaviour in other Africans and i'm not even talking about online. Some of the diaspora are really struggling with identity issues and can't help themselves throwing us all under the bus.
 
Only the racist, clout and social media obsessed people have made posts anout it on YouTube and other social media sites. There are barely any official news reports on it and the ones that do like Hindustan times (like every other Indian media is viciously interested in putting Muslims in bad light) have a clear agenda.

It's funny though that i do not see a lot of mention about his ethnicity. Majority of the bots (that's what they really are, i do not believe that most of the internet is real including all the commenators on this incident) keep repeating the same tired line of 'black fatigue/exhaustion'. Some of them do mention his ethnicity and talk about us but it's a small minority. It helps that he was not on camera.

On another note, it's funny how these racist minnesotans (just a couple i have seen commented on it but also the liberal ones) want to compare Hmongs and Somali Mn and basically implying that the former caused no issues while the racist does and refuse to assimilate and hence why many of them are racist for 'valid' reasons when this could be any further from the truth.

There were so many Hmong violence, gangs (still active in Mn and Wisconcin), poverty, unemployment and racism against them when they first came to the states. They are still looke down upon by other Asians for being poor/ghetto and not as educated and rich as them. It was only after the second generation that things started to improve. They also got more support and help with integration that most Somali refugees did, since many of them were Christians which played a part.
 
Exactly. Yes, Somali men are over represented when it comes to gang violence, in regards to our small statistics in several countries like here in the Netherlands where Somali men commit the most crime compared to all refugee groups and are one of the highest groups overall, only rivaling Moroccan and black Caribbean but in the grand scheme of things it's not that big of a deal since we are a very small population. And outside of one Somali gang that exist in Sweden (forgot it's name), i have yet to see organized crime like that compared to the organized crime in Europe/The west like that of the Balkan/Turkish/Albanian/Moroccan/Iraqi, Kurdish/Lebanese etc.

Many of the black people have admitted themselves that they bullied Somalis because they saw them as a weak target and did consider us/them foreign as we were muslim, new to the west and looked different. This was even before the loud Somalis starting go off on them on social media.

Ultimately we Africans have just a different history compared to race and most of us would first identify with our nationality/ethnicity than race and for many that suffer from inferiority complexes especially towards us Horners, they take this as an insult against them and think that we are better than them. And since it's us Somalis that have a larger presence and population than other Honders in the West, we get the most shit of them, as in accusing us of being self-haters for not calling ourselves black. You see this same sentiment towards Ethiopians and Eritreans from certain black diasporans, especially in the US since many Ethiopians live there in DC.

The only thing they get going is that the Habeshas are overall very insular, both online and offline and because of religious similarities there are more intermarriages between them than we with black Americans/caribbeans. I know many that are half black American or Caribbean (jamaican) and half eritrean/Ethiopian.

But this case is just a race-baiting shit and will be forgotten in couple days, just like everything else. They really want to start a race war and sadly some of us want to be caught up with this instead of minding our business. For some reason many Western Somalis want to advocate and meddle in everyone's business, to the point that i have almost never seen this behaviour in other Africans and i'm not even talking about online. Some of the diaspora are really struggling with identity issues and can't help themselves throwing us all under the bus.
I've done research on Somalis in Minnesota and Norway with regards to propensity for criminality, reading through data and deep analysis from official state-based numbers (the former also includes facts on the employment rate). People lie about the criminality of Somalis in those two places to a disgusting level of inflation that is just a lie, a fabrication, especially by the laymen who use fabrications to further make the name Somali synonymous with crime. These are wicked lies:


Somalis in Norway 1/2:


2/2:


There are a lot of lies spread around Somalis and crime, and in truth, it is far from the truth.

I bet if I take a deep dive in other countries, I will see the same trend, but I don't have that much free time to do deep research.
 
Im beginning to realize tht the 5 year old was his son and his somali cuz African American parents would never be silent for more than a week. The somali guy did say he has an autistic child too.
 
Gangs are not a "Black cultural" thing. I don't know why y'all keep thinking this way. And Scandinavia is not a monolith , there are no organized Somali gangs in, say, Norway or Finland. People love to project what happens in Sweden onto the whole region, when in reality it's the result of failed integration policies and the societal alienation immigrants experience there.

People are shaped by the environments they settle into. Take Minnesota, for example , the gangs that formed in the early 2000s weren’t about copying "madow culture." They formed in response to real threats from white supremacist gangs like the Aryan Cowboy Brotherhood, All-American Boys, and Boogaloo Boys, who were targeting Somali youth while law enforcement looked the other way.





Similar dynamics happened in parts of the UK. Somalis have often been settled in neighborhoods that were hostile to them from the beginning


I also don’t agree with this idea that Somalis are isolated. In fact, we’re one of the most transnational and well-connected diasporas out there.

And honestly, it wouldn’t matter how Somalis behaved online , Africans and other Black groups have always seen Somalis as “non-Black others.” The only reason Somali trolls gain traction is because their actions confirm the deeply held prejudices that already existed. Whether it’s about our appearance (being accused of being mixed), our Islamic identity (which brings anti-Arab or Islamophobic resentment), or simply our distinctiveness , we’ve always had our Blackness questioned, long before the “j-word” was even a thing online.

Another part of this is how we operate like other “middleman minority” groups (look up the term). Just like the Jews, Chinese, and others, Somalis have maintained a strong sense of ethnic and cultural cohesion and that’s something people often find threatening. Especially in contrast to some communities that have historically sought acceptance from white power structures or come in with feelings of inferiority. Somalis don’t operate from that angle and that makes others uncomfortable.

So when Somalis emphasize being Somali and not just “Black” it’s seen as self-hate. But that actually reveals more about how others are willing to water down, erase, or abandon where they come from in order to fit in. That’s not a Somali problem.

In fact, rather than being fragmented, it shows the opposite. Somalis are some of the most socially cohesive and self-supporting people out there. We’ve had to be. We've faced race-based and ethnic-based targeting from the minute we arrived in the West.
This isn’t some new “troll trend” this is survival, and we’ve always found a way to rise above the hate.

Respectability politics won’t save us. Trying to fit in or earn approval by being “quiet,” polite, or overly polished doesn’t change anything. Racism doesn’t go away because you're nice. Plenty of communities have tried that, and they still face the same discrimination. Real power comes from building your own structures, your own networks, your own institutions , not from begging others to see your humanity.

And my earlier point wasn’t about worrying over how we look to racists or how Africans or other Black people perceive us , many of them have their own internalized self-hate and issues. Their neighborhoods and economies are controlled by outsiders. Their anger about racism often boils down to a craving for validation from white people.


What I was really saying is that Somalis should protect their privacy and move wisely , but that’s hard to expect in a clout-chasing, social media-obsessed world.
Couldn't have said this any better, these were views people always held about us and the "troll community" simply allowed them to say what they really wanted about us with impunity.

This makes the trolls wrong because they've so deeply embedded a horrible image of us to people online but reality is plenty of communities do similar and don't get it held to their image in the same way we do, and plenty of communities have trolls or subgroups that cause a ruckus that would never get held against them. "FBA" doesn't make other black people hate Black Americans in the way that "troll" has supposedly made people realise the "true racism" of Somalis.

I've heard all of the things these people spew about us in "retaliation" long before "twitter trolls" existed. and have been actively other by plenty of "black" groups.
 

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