Somali airports: A case study

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Madaxkuti

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Firstly, I found out that hargeisa airport has now overtaken mogadishu airport in terms of passenger flights( Obviously mogadishu airport has more military and UN flights). It has more arrivals and departures (for passenger flights) than mogadishu and more international airlines fly there. See below for mogadishu, hargeisa and bosaso comparison in terms of arrivals


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Hargeisa has 10 arrivals whereas mogadishu has 7 and bosaso 4




Its not surprising because hargeisa is more peaceful so more foreigners and diaspora are likely to go there but hargeisa also has a high catchment area. Not only do people from SL use it but ddsi folks also use it as well. Remember that Jigjiga is only a 2 hour drive from hargeisa. Also its cheaper and less hassle to fly to hargeisa and drive rather than fly to addis wait for the plane then fly to jigjiga. Obviously people located in deep ddsi like gode etc wont use hargeisa but the jigjiga area has a high population.

Also surprisingly from my experience there were people from PL using the hargeisa airport despite the new bosaso aiport just being opened. I put this down to people preferring to fly with fly dubai which flies daily to hargeisa rather than the unreliable daalo and jubba etc flying twice a week or so.

But I expect after the south and Mogadishu stabilize that mogadishu will overtake hargeisa again.

Also those 3 airports are the only ones which get regular international flights and the only ones that are up to international standards and can land an a380. The only issue with these airports apart from mogadishu are the terminals. Hargeisa for instance even though it has a runway and apron up to international standards has a small hotel like terminal. Usually the biggest buildings a city has are its airport terminals. For example dubai terminal 3 is the biggest building in the world by floor area. Don`t know about bosaso`s terminal but it looks small like hargeisa judging by pics

Judging from these satellite images bosaso airports runway and apron was really well done and looks impressive. Bosaso needs international airlines to serve it.

Bosaso airport

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Hargeisa airport and mogadishu airport in comparison

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Runways lengths:
Hargeisa airport 3.7km (Longest because airports at higher altitudes need longer runways)
Mogadishu airport 3.0Km
Bosaso airport 2.65Km
( Doesnt need to be that long because bosaso is at sea level so this length is enough for the biggest aircrafts)

@Xaax @Thegoodshepherd


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Madaxkuti

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@Duke of Bohol waddani needs to make enlarging the terminal at hargeisa one of its top priorities and another airport for the eastern areas like burco ceerigaabo etc
 
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Madaxkuti

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I agree but $10 million was given to Kulmiye for Hargeisa airport by Kuwait. What happened to it? Lol.
The corrupt bastards didnt finish the job. Obviously they done the runway extension and resurfacing and widening of the apron becuase it was supervised by international aviation authorities but the terminal was not supervised so the money for that went straight to their pockets
 

Hemaal

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Hargeisa terminal is the worst, if you're 6ft you've got to bow your head, it's so small
 

AlphaSomali

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Firstly, I found out that hargeisa airport has now overtaken mogadishu airport in terms of passenger flights( Obviously mogadishu airport has more military and UN flights). It has more arrivals and departures (for passenger flights) than mogadishu and more international airlines fly there. See below for mogadishu, hargeisa and bosaso comparison in terms of arrivals


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Hargeisa has 10 arrivals whereas mogadishu has 7 and bosaso 4




Its not surprising because hargeisa is more peaceful so more foreigners and diaspora are likely to go there but hargeisa also has a high catchment area. Not only do people from SL use it but ddsi folks also use it as well. Remember that Jigjiga is only a 2 hour drive from hargeisa. Also its cheaper and less hassle to fly to hargeisa and drive rather than fly to addis wait for the plane then fly to jigjiga. Obviously people located in deep ddsi like gode etc wont use hargeisa but the jigjiga area has a high population.

Also surprisingly from my experience there were people from PL using the hargeisa airport despite the new bosaso aiport just being opened. I put this down to people preferring to fly with fly dubai which flies daily to hargeisa rather than the unreliable daalo and jubba etc flying twice a week or so.

But I expect after the south and Mogadishu stabilize that mogadishu will overtake hargeisa again.

Also those 3 airports are the only ones which get regular international flights and the only ones that are up to international standards and can land an a380. The only issue with these airports apart from mogadishu are the terminals. Hargeisa for instance even though it has a runway and apron up to international standards has a small hotel like terminal. Usually the biggest buildings a city has are its airport terminals. For example dubai terminal 3 is the biggest building in the world by floor area. Don`t know about bosaso`s terminal but it looks small like hargeisa judging by pics

Judging from these satellite images bosaso airports runway and apron was really well done and looks impressive. Bosaso needs international airlines to serve it.

Bosaso airport

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Hargeisa airport and mogadishu airport in comparison

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Runways lengths:
Hargeisa airport 3.7km (Longest because airports at higher altitudes need longer runways)
Mogadishu airport 3.0Km
Bosaso airport 2.65Km
( Doesnt need to be that long because bosaso is at sea level so this length is enough for the biggest aircrafts)

@Xaax @Thegoodshepherd


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Hargesa usually take more passenger flights. Because Flights to Addis Ababa must have Air Traffic Control on. Hargesa is more closers to Dubai than Addis Ababa or Xamar.

Because Airports don't want to cause air crashes. So the Largest closest Airport in 25 nautical miles only takes in Air Traffic Control. (Which is Hargesa)


it is all aviation stuff.
 
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Madaxkuti

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@Duke of Bohol A big mogadishu like terminal is whats needed but it is possible for waddani to pull it off hargeisa needs it and is getting busier day after day as seen below

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AlphaSomali

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@Duke of Bohol A big mogadishu like terminal is whats needed but it is possible for waddani to pull it off hargeisa needs it and is getting busier day after day as seen below

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Hargesa take more air traffic control. For flights going arriving or departure from Addis Ababa. That why airlines like Emirates fly over Hargesa.
 

Madaxkuti

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@Yonis @Abdalla What do you guys think of the analogy.

Also is garowe just gonna be a domestic airport or will international flights go there like bosaso?

It seems to be coming along nicely

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Thegoodshepherd

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Bosaso is in competition for the Puntland business with Mogadishu and Hargeisa. You can see this by looking at the number of flights from each to Galkayo and Garowe. What I find absolutly incredible is that a return ticket from Bosaso to Dubai costs $62! I could get a return ticket from Minneapolis to Dubai and a return ticket from Dubai to Bosaso for under 1k! I don't know how Daallo/Jubba make a profit from $62, there must be a lot of demand.

Berbera does not seem to have any traffic, although it should be where people going to Eastern Somaliland land.
 
Bosaso is in competition for the Puntland business with Mogadishu and Hargeisa. You can see this by looking at the number of flights from each to Galkayo and Garowe. What I find absolutly incredible is that a return ticket from Bosaso to Dubai costs $62! I could get a return ticket from Minneapolis to Dubai and a return ticket from Dubai to Bosaso for under 1k! I don't know how Daallo/Jubba make a profit from $62, there must be a lot of demand.

Berbera does not seem to have any traffic, although it should be where people going to Eastern Somaliland land.
Has the Puntland government reached out to foreign airliners to add Bosaso as a travel destination? It would be quite a loss for the new Bosaso airport to be only used for local flights.
 

AlphaSomali

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Bosaso is in competition for the Puntland business with Mogadishu and Hargeisa. You can see this by looking at the number of flights from each to Galkayo and Garowe. What I find absolutly incredible is that a return ticket from Bosaso to Dubai costs $62! I could get a return ticket from Minneapolis to Dubai and a return ticket from Dubai to Bosaso for under 1k! I don't know how Daallo/Jubba make a profit from $62, there must be a lot of demand.

Berbera does not seem to have any traffic, although it should be where people going to Eastern Somaliland land.
My plane ticket to Addis was way more than that.
 

Abdalla

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@Yonis @Abdalla What do you guys think of the analogy.

Also is garowe just gonna be a domestic airport or will international flights go there like bosaso?

It seems to be coming along nicely

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BOSASO is still in its infant stage. There were plans for an Omani airline to fly to Bosaso. I think the Dubai-Somalia market is saturated and no room for new players such as Bosaso airport.

We have to be creative and find a new market. Oman is interested, they signed a memorandum of understanding last year.

The demographic of Somali diaspora does not favour us as well. Isaaqs biggest diaspora lives in the UK, ours in North America.

Garowe will be have around 2.3km runway. I guess it should become an 'international airport'.
 

Abdalla

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Bosaso is in competition for the Puntland business with Mogadishu and Hargeisa. You can see this by looking at the number of flights from each to Galkayo and Garowe. What I find absolutly incredible is that a return ticket from Bosaso to Dubai costs $62! I could get a return ticket from Minneapolis to Dubai and a return ticket from Dubai to Bosaso for under 1k! I don't know how Daallo/Jubba make a profit from $62, there must be a lot of demand.

Berbera does not seem to have any traffic, although it should be where people going to Eastern Somaliland land.

:whoo: it got a lot cheaper. It use to be around 150 from Dubai to Bosaso. Dubai-Bosaso is cheaper than Dubai-Hargeisa, which makes sense proximity wise. But in the past travelling to Bosaso was more expensive.

Travelling to the motherland in off season might cost me less than 500 euros. :whew:

Dubai-Bosaso is $62 with Jubba and 250 with Daallo. Are they nuts? :faysalwtf:
 
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Berbera does not seem to have any traffic, although it should be where people going to Eastern Somaliland land.

Majority of SL diaspora land in Hargiesa and proceed to the eastern regions including Dolbahante. I've read a study months ago estimates 60% of Hargeisa airport travelers are diaspora heading to the east (Togdheer, Sool, Sanaag)


Burco airport will be a blessing :rejoice:


 

AlphaSomali

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BOSASO is still in its infant stage. There were plans for an Omani airline to fly to Bosaso. I think the Dubai-Somalia market is saturated and no room for new players such as Bosaso airport.

We have to be creative and find a new market. Oman is interested, they signed a memorandum of understanding last year.

The demographic of Somali diaspora does not favour us as well. Isaaqs biggest diaspora lives in the UK, ours in North America.

Garowe will be have around 2.3km runway. I guess it should become an 'international airport'.
A international airport will be considered international if it has Customs. Gaarowe airport does not have customs.
 
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