Sa'id of Mogadishu

[Khaem]

Sa'id of Mogadishu​

14th-century Somali Islamic scholar and traveler who founded the islands and ruled the maldives
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Biography
Sa'id was born in Mogadishu in the year 1301.

“I met in this Masjid a jurist, pious from Mogadishu called Sa‘īd, of fine figure and character. He used to fast continually, and I was told that he had studied in Makkah for fourteen years and for the same length of time [another fourteen years] in Madinah. He had met Abu Numayy, the Amir of Makkah [r. 1254-1301] , and al-Mansūr Ibn Jammāz, the Amir of Madinah [r. 1300-1325]. He had travelled [throughout] India and China.”

Sa'id left Mogadishu as a teenager to study in Mecca and Medina, where he remained for 28 years gathering knowledge and gaining many disciples. His reputation as a scholar earned him audiences with the Amirs of Mecca and Medina.

From this it is apparent that Sa‘īd was not only a well travelled scholar known in the ways of the world, but he obviously must have recruited many students due to his close link with the Amirs.

“Faqih Sa’id from Mogadishu [...] finally settled down in the small port-town of Ezhimala and collaborated there with Faqih Husayn, possibly the author of Qayd al- jami’, the first known Shafi’ite text from Malabar. Faqih Sa’id is an epitome of many more East African scholars who arrived in the Malabar Coast and partook in its religious spectrums, and their contributions await further research.”

Sa'id is said to have afterwards travelled across the Muslim world and visited Bengal, China. During his stay at a mosque on the west coast of India, he encountered fellow Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta. According to scholar Peter Jackson, Sa'id might have during this occasion shared with Battuta accounts of his travels in China and detailed the political landscape and succession of the Yuan Dynasty, information which Battuta would eventually add in his own chronicles. Sa'id may have died on 1361 or 1365.

Achievements
Sa'id of Mogadishu was a famous Somali scholar and traveller. He is said to be the first African to study the Mandarin language and first African to translate the Mandarin language with a native African language like Somali

 

[Hamzza]

Lool

 

[Khaem]

Lool

 

[ibrahym]

We do not know anything about him except what Ibn Battuta said about him

 

[killerxsmoke]

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Achievements
Sa'id of Mogadishu was a famous Somali scholar and traveller. He is said to be the first African to study the Mandarin language and first African to translate the Mandarin language with a native African language like Somali

There is zero evidence that he studied mandarin

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Sa'id of Mogadishu​

14th-century Somali Islamic scholar and traveler who founded the islands and ruled the maldives
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Biography
Sa'id was born in Mogadishu in the year 1301.

“I met in this Masjid a jurist, pious from Mogadishu called Sa‘īd, of fine figure and character. He used to fast continually, and I was told that he had studied in Makkah for fourteen years and for the same length of time [another fourteen years] in Madinah. He had met Abu Numayy, the Amir of Makkah [r. 1254-1301] , and al-Mansūr Ibn Jammāz, the Amir of Madinah [r. 1300-1325]. He had travelled [throughout] India and China.”

Sa'id left Mogadishu as a teenager to study in Mecca and Medina, where he remained for 28 years gathering knowledge and gaining many disciples. His reputation as a scholar earned him audiences with the Amirs of Mecca and Medina.

From this it is apparent that Sa‘īd was not only a well travelled scholar known in the ways of the world, but he obviously must have recruited many students due to his close link with the Amirs.

“Faqih Sa’id from Mogadishu [...] finally settled down in the small port-town of Ezhimala and collaborated there with Faqih Husayn, possibly the author of Qayd al- jami’, the first known Shafi’ite text from Malabar. Faqih Sa’id is an epitome of many more East African scholars who arrived in the Malabar Coast and partook in its religious spectrums, and their contributions await further research.”

Sa'id is said to have afterwards travelled across the Muslim world and visited Bengal, China. During his stay at a mosque on the west coast of India, he encountered fellow Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta. According to scholar Peter Jackson, Sa'id might have during this occasion shared with Battuta accounts of his travels in China and detailed the political landscape and succession of the Yuan Dynasty, information which Battuta would eventually add in his own chronicles. Sa'id may have died on 1361 or 1365.

Achievements
Sa'id of Mogadishu was a famous Somali scholar and traveller. He is said to be the first African to study the Mandarin language and first African to translate the Mandarin language with a native African language like Somali

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No evidence of him being reer samaale, none of the samaale reer xamar groups claim to have lived in xamar that far back nor were they using nisbahs to muqdisho , all that's known is that he's a xamari however whether he's Arab or Persian isn't known yet

 

[Khaem]

No evidence of him being reer samaale, none of the samaale reer xamar groups claim to have lived in xamar that far back nor were they using nisbahs to muqdisho , all that's known is that he's a xamari however whether he's Arab or Persian isn't known yet

Aint no way bro is claiming historical figures as Arab or Persian

 

[mohammdov]

Mostly his origins were Arab

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Aint no way bro is claiming historical figures as Arab or Persian

Yes Historical Banadiri Figures

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Mostly his origins were Arab

Hard to say without more information about him

 

[Khaem]

Yes Historical Banadiri Figures

"We wuzz"
Show a source then idiot.

He met ibn Battuta. Had he been of Arab origins or Persian wouldn't he have written that down? Meeting a fellow Arab? But no he was a Somali.

 

[mohammdov]

Hard to say without more information about him

Yes, there is no more information, but most of the scholars who wrote books in coastal cities were Arabs or Persians

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Yes, there is no more information, but most of the scholars who wrote books in coastal cities were Arabs or Persians

True also at that time, also there's no existing reer xamar clan originally from samaale that lived in xamar that far back

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

"We wuzz"
Show a source then idiot.

He met ibn Battuta. Had he been of Arab origins or Persian wouldn't he have written that down? Meeting a fellow Arab? But no he was a Somali.

How ironic, why wasn't it mentioned if he was a descendant of Samaale then? Why aren't there any reer xamar clans of samaale origin that lived in xamar during that era then?

 

[Somali_patriotic]

Yes, there is no more information, but most of the scholars who wrote books in coastal cities were Arabs or Persians

Sa'id al maqdishi didn't write a book.
Excluding his somalinimo while promoting persian and arab origin "theories" is pure hypocrisy tbh

 

[Khaem]

How ironic, why wasn't it mentioned if he was a descendant of Samaale then? Why aren't there any reer xamar clans of samaale origin that lived in xamar during that era then?

Why would a nigga need to write about his whole lineage. "he's somali" enough. Somalis are all "Samaale".

Benadiri and Bantu are a minority for a reason. They are not somalis by ethnicity but they are seperate tribes who live under the Somali Nation and Identity. Calling somali a somali is very simple. For him to be a Bantu or benadiri you would specify they are from those groups. Since they aren't "Somali" in its literal sense. No somali refers to themselves as "Samaale - Sab" that's like white Americans and British calling themselves "Anglo-Saxon"

 

[Basra]

Sa'id of Mogadishu​

14th-century Somali Islamic scholar and traveler who founded the islands and ruled the maldives
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Biography
Sa'id was born in Mogadishu in the year 1301.

“I met in this Masjid a jurist, pious from Mogadishu called Sa‘īd, of fine figure and character. He used to fast continually, and I was told that he had studied in Makkah for fourteen years and for the same length of time [another fourteen years] in Madinah. He had met Abu Numayy, the Amir of Makkah [r. 1254-1301] , and al-Mansūr Ibn Jammāz, the Amir of Madinah [r. 1300-1325]. He had travelled [throughout] India and China.”

Sa'id left Mogadishu as a teenager to study in Mecca and Medina, where he remained for 28 years gathering knowledge and gaining many disciples. His reputation as a scholar earned him audiences with the Amirs of Mecca and Medina.

From this it is apparent that Sa‘īd was not only a well travelled scholar known in the ways of the world, but he obviously must have recruited many students due to his close link with the Amirs.

“Faqih Sa’id from Mogadishu [...] finally settled down in the small port-town of Ezhimala and collaborated there with Faqih Husayn, possibly the author of Qayd al- jami’, the first known Shafi’ite text from Malabar. Faqih Sa’id is an epitome of many more East African scholars who arrived in the Malabar Coast and partook in its religious spectrums, and their contributions await further research.”

Sa'id is said to have afterwards travelled across the Muslim world and visited Bengal, China. During his stay at a mosque on the west coast of India, he encountered fellow Muslim traveller Ibn Battuta. According to scholar Peter Jackson, Sa'id might have during this occasion shared with Battuta accounts of his travels in China and detailed the political landscape and succession of the Yuan Dynasty, information which Battuta would eventually add in his own chronicles. Sa'id may have died on 1361 or 1365.

Achievements
Sa'id of Mogadishu was a famous Somali scholar and traveller. He is said to be the first African to study the Mandarin language and first African to translate the Mandarin language with a native African language like Somali

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Mashaaalaah



We wuz brave, important, and Boss

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Sa'id al maqdishi didn't write a book.
Excluding his somalinimo while promoting persian and arab origin "theories" is pure hypocrisy tbh

No source mentions him being "somali"/reer samaale

 

[Banadiri Warrior]

Why would a nigga need to write about his whole lineage. "he's somali" enough. Somalis are all "Samaale".

Benadiri and Bantu are a minority for a reason. They are not somalis by ethnicity but they are seperate tribes who live under the Somali Nation and Identity. Calling somali a somali is very simple. For him to be a Bantu or benadiri you would specify they are from those groups. Since they aren't "Somali" in its literal sense. No somali refers to themselves as "Samaale - Sab" that's like white Americans and British calling themselves "Anglo-Saxon"

No source mentions him being Somali either, there are banadiris of samaale origin , however they weren't present in xamar during his era , so that proves that he can't be of samaale origin

 

[Al Adnani]

He was Arab, banu abgaal im pretty sure