Riya Jama talks about rape culture with Zak Salad

[Tramo]

When it comes to justice, believe innocent until proven guilty.

The only real rape culture that exists is in prisons.

u the type of nigga who if ur daughter or sister came to u saying she got raped would be like "i'm sorry i cant believe u at this point in time. innocent until proven guilty "

 

[government]

I can't stand this thread. Rape culture and Somali culture go hand in hand. As do most cultures.

Read about rape culture.

When it comes to rape believe the victim.

That's not who Justice works. women love to have it their own way. do you know what a false rape accusation does to the man? he is basically shunned from society won't get jobs nothing, even if he was proven innocent and the woman would only Serve few months in jail that's if she served in it.

 

[Hemaal]

I can't stand this thread. Rape culture and Somali culture go hand in hand. As do most cultures.

Read about rape culture.

When it comes to rape believe the victim.

If they go hand in hand, why you ain't got raped?

 

[Gilgamesh]

Very brave of her to speak out and spread awareness. Rape Culture is part of Somali society
and we should be supporting those who go through this horrific ordeal instead of silencing to
shame with "ceeb" or "xishood". Until we start to acknowledge this as a community we will never progress.

 

[emptyheartsflow]

u the type of nigga who if ur daughter or sister came to u saying she got raped would be like "i'm sorry i cant believe u at this point in time. innocent until proven guilty "

You sound like a woman trying to personalize every debate and make it about emotions instead of facts.

How did you even jump to the conclusion that I won't believe anyone who's claimed to been raped?

OK I'll throw a strawman too: so I guess if someone accused your brother/father of rape, you'd immediately disown them and testify against them? Retard.

 

[Aziza]

That's not who Justice works women love to have it their own way do you know what a false rape accusation does to the man he is basically shunned from society won't get jobs nothing even if he was proven innocent and the woman would only Serve few months in jail that's if she served in it.

Alright, there are people who falsely accuse people of rape it's also most likely white women who lie about black men. But the percentage of the women who aren't lying is way higher than the percentage who are. So shouldn't we take that into consideration before jumping to the conclusion that they are all lying. First of all the man losing his job does not compare to the emotional, social and physical trauma the rape survivor has to go through.

 

[Tramo]

You sound like a woman trying to personalize every debate and make it about emotions instead of facts.

How did you even jump to the conclusion that I won't believe anyone who's claimed to been raped?

OK I'll throw a strawman too: so I guess if someone accused your brother/father of rape, you'd disown them and testify against them? Retard.

what is innocent until proven guilty supposed to mean? dont backtrack now lil nigga

u dont have to take her word as gospel, but dismissing it on some bs notion of justice (which u probably wouldnt apply to other crimes) is some moist shit

 

[government]

Alright, there are people who falsely accuse people of rape it's also most likely white women who lie about black men. But the percentage of the women who aren't lying is way higher than the percentage who are. So shouldn't we take that into consideration before jumping to the conclusion that they are all lying. First of all the man losing his job does not compare to the emotional, social and physical trauma the rape survivor has to go through.

The number of false rape allegations can never be measured but that is not my point. My point is that if there's someone who is raped we shouldn't blindly trust them. Look at the women above claiming when it comes to rape we should always believe the woman. Society doesn't provide harsh punishment for people who fake rape that is why false rape allegations are high

 

[fox]

She's lying and this is why:

 

[CorpseBride]

do you have proof and stats of your so called false rape allegstions?

The number of false rape allegations can never be measured but that is not my point. My point is that if there's someone who is raped we shouldn't blindly trust them. Look at the women above claiming when it comes to rape we should always believe the woman. Society doesn't provide harsh punishment for people who fake rape that is why false rape allegations are high

 

[Asma]

Brudda, I'm sorry to say but i think you need a pair of these.

Ain't nobody touching her. You can believe that. Secondly, let's take a look at the context, it's not a thing where she is recounting a troubling experience and awareness is being raised about it. Rather it is her smiling casually on camera and hygienically pushing a carefully selected and premeditated narrative. Lastly, there is someone who knows here (Hemaal) who attested to her unquenching thirst for attention and publicity. All this leads me to HIGHLY doubt her BS story and i hope you come to the same rational conclusion when you take time to think about it.

You are an absolute piece of shit aren't you?

 

[Aziza]

The number of false rape allegations can never be measured but that is not my point. My point is that if there's someone who is raped we shouldn't blindly trust them. Look at the women above claiming when it comes to rape we should always believe the woman. Society doesn't provide harsh punishment for people who fake rape that is why false rape allegations are high

So your basically saying if a woman comes out and tells the police and her family she's raped. You should bluntly say "I don't believe you". Are you joking me do you know how much trauma that's going to cause. And yes your right the measurement of rape is not accurate as alot of women do not speak up. And this is only going to cause more not to.

However, I do agree with you that the punishment for false allegations should be taken more seriously. But how is that everyone women who's been raped fault.

 

[government]

do you have proof and stats of your so called false rape allegstions?

I said that the number of false rape accusation can never be measured.
Some say it's as low as 2% and some say it's high as 40

 

[Asma]

The responses in this thread by the boys, really does prove that there is a rape culture.

 

[Tramo]

I said that the number of false rape accusation can never be measured.
Some say it's as low as 2% and some say it's high as 40

so ur willing to dismiss someone saying they got raped over some 2%? that's almost statistical noise levels

 

[government]

So your basically saying if a woman comes out and tells the police and her family she's raped. You should bluntly say "I don't believe you". Are you joking me do you know how much trauma that's going to cause. And yes your right the measurement of rape are not accurate as alot of women do not speak up. And this is only going to cause more not to.
However, I do agree with you that the punishment for false allegations should be taken more seriously. But how is that everyone women who's been raped fault.

No you understood me wrong sis what I'm saying that if a woman like the one in the video talks about being raped without saying she went to the police or anything we should not believe her however if she went to the authorities and she reported it then that is another story

 

[dhegdheer]

Hunno there's no such thing as "culture" of rape, for it to become a "culture" ppl must celebrate it, and until u see ppl start celebrating this culture of rape, it's all "FAKE NEWS". I'm not denying that ppl get raped but don't lie and make up shit that we have a culture where we rape ppl, that's a big lie

Damn I added a disclaimer in my original post telling yall not to get hung up on the word culture but u all did anyway. Just look up the definition sxb

There's a real rape culture in the third world, and places such as Somalia. Although that word is misplaced in the West. A man only needs to be accused of rape to have his career and life ruined. People take rape very seriously.

No it exists in he west as well, obviously not as bad as a developing country but it's there. Most rapists aren't even reported and often get away. There's no rampant epidemic where men get accused of rape and get away with it, they'll blame the victim and call her a liar

 

[CorpseBride]

I said that the number of false rape accusation can never be measured.
Some say it's as low as 2% and some say it's high as 40

Lmao. You're a joke at this point

Using the argument "false rape report" is as old as fucking mankind.

The truth is false rape reports are a statistical outlier.

Roughly around 80% of all rape crimes are not reported. Women make the hard decision of not reporting rape because of men like you.

98% of those rapists that finally get to sit in a court room are found innocent.

Most countries don't even have a consent law.

Instead of guessing how about we use facts? Stop speaking of your imaginary MRA friend "false rape report" and let's discuss facts.

 

[government]

so ur willing to dismiss someone saying they got raped over some 2%? that's almost statistical noise levels

Did you even read what I wrote I said it could also there are studies that say it's up to 40%

 

[Asma]

so ur willing to dismiss someone saying they got raped over some 2%? that's almost statistical noise levels

There are also people who falsely accuse others of theft, murder, assault, child neglect. However it's only when the rape of women is being discussed that the misogynist start to shout about the tiny percentage of false rape accusations. If a man said someone stole his bmw, nobody would start shouting at him that he is a liar because there are a small number of people that lie about their bmw being stolen. It's not hard to see why the double standards exists for rape of women ( hint; misogyny and rape culture).