Puntland Needs A Long Term Economic Framework

DR OSMAN

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I have said this before and I will say it again. Puntland must cease immediately this un-planned free market approach, which will not lead to investors coming. Investors will only come when there is a 'purchasing power' among the locals and the purchasing power of the locals can only be guaranteed by 'regulating pay and conditions' of all industries in Puntland.

We need to set 'bare minimum wages' of each industry and we need to correlate our wages based on the housing/grocery/utility costs locally and set a realistic wage and conditions so it can lead to a stronger purchasing power among our locals. We need to calculate what the average family grocery bill is, rent or mortgage, utility bills across a year and set in laws that no company in PL can pay less then this. This must be seen by our business people as necessary to revive PL economy and ensure growth which is what investors demand.

In-fact we should add a 'little extra margin' to include a savings and spendings allowance on our workers as this will stimulate our banks who will have more saving accounts to withdraw from while using that as 'lending' money to new start ups or mortgage clients.This will also stimulate our market to increase their goods/products/produce as their will be more disposable income from workers generating demand.

For example if a house/land cost 50k for an average family. We must divide 50k over 20 years mortage plan. That means their housing costs alone will be $2500 a year. Then we need to add their phone/water/electricity/school/health cost. Let's say that's $250 a month x 12 months. That's another $3000. Then add a reasonable amount of savings a year to ensure our banks have lots of customers with disposable income after expenses r paid. Savings should be anywhere 10-20% on top of income so add $500-1000 a year for savings or extra spending in the market.

So a fair livable wage in PL should be. $2500 for housing, $3000 in living costs expenses and anywhere from $500-1000 in savings. That's $6000-6500 a year. We should set this amount immediately as the bare minimum for any industry as this will oversee economic revival in our banks, our markets will have more demand and therefore produce more, and our housing sector will boom with new clientele.

$6500 a year is roughly $500-550 a month. We should ensure no worker goes below this minimum wage. We need to then assess other industries which require skills and set these jobs higher then minimum wage jobs while also ensuring they have the same level of protections for high skilled workers. Once we do this we can index the minimum wage according to yearly inflation which should be around 1-5% a year in a stable market place if there isn't any disturbance to general 'spending and production' areas.

If we do this we can manage our economy not let our economy manage itself, our market place needs to grow with more products and goods and this cannot happen without ensuring locals have purchasing power. The more our locals have purchasing power, this gives an incentive for more suppliers to be generated to service this growing market. If we set our wage laws to be pegged to realistic housing/utilities/savings indexes, we will ensure, each generation will follow in the previous generation foot-steps and purchase houses, cars, products and goods and have savings in the bank.
 

DR OSMAN

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We must clear out the IDP camps also. Once an IDP has a job and their making a wage thru our PL controlled market rates, we must force them out of camps and push them into either purchasing or renting properties so either our construction industries or rental market will benefit and grow. But if their sitting in camps and earning this money of $500-550 a month and not cycling it thru our market place and sending it back to their home-land, their presence must be examined if it's beneficial or not.
 
The problem is Somali’s are stupid, they will tell you interest is haram even in the west. While other Muslim communities get mortgages and buy homes, somalis have the lowest home ownership levels in the west. They believe in Islamic banking which is a scam. You have to fix that mentality before anything else
 

DR OSMAN

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Come on in Puntites and let's discuss how economic growth can happen and what formula needs to be applied to ensure our market generates more products-goods-services as this will be more tax revenue for our government. How this can happen without addressing the purchasing power of our locals is what this topic is about.

This is an intellectual topic, so all the fkd-ers and drama queens please take a detour to other sections for that.

Lets get our economic game on and provide puntland govt with proper economic direction advice.

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DR OSMAN

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@En_Sabah Nur Thru a planned economic framework, we can predict our market growth thru our purchasing power and inflation rates yearly. Say for example if $500 is the minimum wage for unskilled industries, we can use this an add 1-5% extra on top of that to cover inflation. So the next year will be $500 x 1-5% = $5 to $25 adjustment to salaries.

If we keep recycling thru this approach. In 20 years we can predict where we will be. $5 dollar yearly increase x 20 years= $100 dollar. Or it cud up untill $25 x 20 years = $500. In 20 years time our salary growth will be anywhere from $100 to $500. We need an economic framework that our market is based on such as housing/utilities/grocery expenditure per household, not just sit there and provide no pillars that our market place has to follow.

Any economic pillar we use should prove how we can guarantee growth for the construction industry and the production of more goods n products. As this will be crucial for a government to increase these areas for tax revenue purpose.
 
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DR OSMAN

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The problem is Somali’s are stupid, they will tell you interest is haram even in the west. While other Muslim communities get mortgages and buy homes, somalis have the lowest home ownership levels in the west. They believe in Islamic banking which is a scam. You have to fix that mentality before anything else

Well they need to be taught they cannot escape the generational poverty trap without having assets, maybe show them why slaves n their descendants are poor because they never handed anything down generation after generation. If they follow that model, they are going to be no different to slaves in the modern era with no assets.

Homes are the biggest assets to have and hand down to your future generation to build from there.
 
Well they need to be taught they cannot escape the generational poverty trap without having assets, maybe show them why slaves n their descendants are poor because they never handed anything down generation after generation. If they follow that model, they are going to be no different to slaves in the modern era with no assets.

Homes are the biggest assets to have and hand down to your future generation to build from there.
It’s the wahhabi influence. Our people were more avant-garde before the 90’s. Dont get me wrong, I understand how interest can be dangerous, but using loans to buy assets and pay for infrastructure is important. It’s how you develops society and build generation wealth as you said. It’s a big challenge to get our people away from the wahhabi mindset.
 
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Puntland needs:

1. REVISITING BOSASO PORT DEAL.
2. ENSURE GOV HOLD ELECTIONS AND FOR THE POLITICAL PARTIES TO RUN THEIR CAMPAIGN.
3. CAPITALIZE GARACAD PORT.
4. CREATE SOMALIPORT (SP) THAT RUNS BANDAR QASSIM PORT, GAROWE PORT, GAALKACYO PORT AND ALL MAJOR AIPORTS INCLUDING BUUHOODLE.
5. EXPAND BUUHOODLE AIRPORT.
6. REBUILD LAASQOREY TUNA.
7. AUDIT WASAARADDA MAALIYADDA.
8. REMODEL MADAXTOOYADDA BOSASO, GAROWE AND GAALKACYO.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
Puntland needs as Gaas said ‘5000 jobs’. It doesn’t have to be one company that employs 5k people, but 100 jobs here, 78 jobs there, 545 jobs else where etc etc. This means a vigorous job creation policy. It seems a lot but it’s not. PL as any other Somali region has only 1 industry: life stock. We don’t even process the life stock, we sell living breathing animals. If we added created jobs in few other sectors like mining(900 new jobs), fisheries (2000 new jobs), agriculture (1000 new jobs), expanded the government servants (500), others (600). This is doable and need a capable steering committee.
 

Abdalla

Medical specialist in diagnosing Majeerteentitis
Prof.Dr.Eng.
VIP
Puntland needs:

1. REVISITING BOSASO PORT DEAL.
2. ENSURE GOV HOLD ELECTIONS AND FOR THE POLITICAL PARTIES TO RUN THEIR CAMPAIGN.
3. CAPITALIZE GARACAD PORT.
4. CREATE SOMALIPORT (SP) THAT RUNS BANDAR QASSIM PORT, GAROWE PORT, GAALKACYO PORT AND ALL MAJOR AIPORTS INCLUDING BUUHOODLE.
5. EXPAND BUUHOODLE AIRPORT.
6. REBUILD LAASQOREY TUNA.
7. AUDIT WASAARADDA MAALIYADDA.
8. REMODEL MADAXTOOYADDA BOSASO, GAROWE AND GAALKACYO.

Are you from Buuhoodle?
 
What Puntland really needs is to remove the kibir against manual labour. There are jobs in the state that locals refuse to do and that's why they bring in Bantus and Asians. Imagine if Puntites got into construction? Even if the money isn't a lot, it's better than living off remittances or waiting for an office job that has far too many competitors.

This removal of kibir will also open up people's imagination and we'd see a boom in other jobs and markets; for example street food vendors.
 
We must clear out the IDP camps also. Once an IDP has a job and their making a wage thru our PL controlled market rates, we must force them out of camps and push them into either purchasing or renting properties so either our construction industries or rental market will benefit and grow. But if their sitting in camps and earning this money of $500-550 a month and not cycling it thru our market place and sending it back to their home-land, their presence must be examined if it's beneficial or not.


IDP camps are a disaster, Puntland Government should change and upgrade these camps and call it "Affordable Housing" and take rent even if it's not much and use that to maintain the properties. There are 'IDPs' who are basically scammers who have land and properties in South Somalia and there are those who even beg on the streets even though they have assets. Puntland is being played for a fool.

IDP camps can easily turn into crime infested ghettoes if they are not managed properly.
 
Puntland needs as Gaas said ‘5000 jobs’. It doesn’t have to be one company that employs 5k people, but 100 jobs here, 78 jobs there, 545 jobs else where etc etc. This means a vigorous job creation policy. It seems a lot but it’s not. PL as any other Somali region has only 1 industry: life stock. We don’t even process the life stock, we sell living breathing animals. If we added created jobs in few other sectors like mining(900 new jobs), fisheries (2000 new jobs), agriculture (1000 new jobs), expanded the government servants (500), others (600). This is doable and need a capable steering committee.


I heard that in the past Somalis wouldn't sell certain livestock to Arabs in case they use it to produce their own, but now Arabs have their own livestock who are originally from Somalia thanks to Somali traders. Thus, this livestock industry itself is at risk in general.
 

repo

Bantu Liberation Movement
VIP
Modi of India had a successful program where he opened bank accounts for all citizens. With new banks springing up in Puntland, the government needs to facilitate business growth by automatically opening accounts for all citizens with IDs.

The government should create a portal that has a person's information, taxes, state bank account. They should make it easier to deposit and withdraw money which will stimulate commerce and trade. All businesses should be offered point of service machines that will allow them to deposit with the State Bank. If the government leads the way, private banks can enter in partnerships.
 

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