PUNTLAND: FEDERALIST OR QUASI-SECESSIONIST? (Part II)- Lawyer Aman Obsiye

[amboli]

PUNTLAND: FEDERALIST OR QUASI-SECESSIONIST? (Part II)

The recent announcement of Benaadir region receiving representation in the Federal Parliament of Somalia has once again showcased Puntland’s true sociopolitical character. Puntland’s political elite have protested the entry of Benaadir in Somalia’s Upper House, and have shamefully proclaimed...

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"The recent announcement of Benaadir region receiving representation in the Federal Parliament of Somalia has once again showcased Puntland’s true sociopolitical character. Puntland’s political elite have protested the entry of Benaadir in Somalia’s Upper House, and have shamefully proclaimed that they may seek secession"



"To understand how Somalia became a federalist nation-state in 2004, you must go back to 1978. In April 1978, mere weeks after the Ogaden War concluded, Abdilahi Yusuf created a rebel group called Somali Salvation Democratic Front(SSDF) and aligned it with Mengistu Haile Mariam, Ethiopia’s then-dictator.


The SSDF was funded, trained, fed and housed by Mengistu. In essence, they were an extension of Ethiopia’s military machine and in June 1982 were utilized. Mengistu and the SSDF invaded Galdogob, a city in central Somalia, and hoisted the Ethiopian flag during their brief occupation. The SSDF’s act of invading their home country alongside a foreign enemy was utterly treasonous"



" If Puntland claims to be the Mother of Federalism, then Meles Zenawi is its father."

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

Drunkard Aman obsiye should focus on putting down the alcohol bottle before mentioning Puntland

 

[amboli]

OBSIYE






Nobody cares about a donkey's braying.

Drunakard Aman obsiye should focus on putting down the alcohol bottle before mentioning Puntland

It looks like well written article. The lawyer has good writing skills

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

OBSIYE






Nobody cares about a donkey's braying.

Can you tell me why you laughed at the name obsiyee? I’m curious lol

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

Can you tell me why you laughed at the name obsiyee? I’m curious lol

Because he is a hating ass Abgaal concerned with PL affairs.

I'd actually read if he wasn't so obviously biased.

 

[Farm]

Because he is a hating ass Abgaal concerned with PL affairs.

I'd actually read if he wasn't so obviously biased.

He’s dir actually and constantly cries about being occupied by isaaqs. He had a failed rap career and a failed marriage with an cadaan woman who left him, he’s been obsessed with PL because his law career failed due to his low IQ, so now he spends all day on twitter talking about PL, in the hopes of getting a job from the FGS. In short he’s a loser.

 

[𐒁𐒚𐒒𐒂𐒘𐒂𐒗 𐒎𐒚𐒗𐒗𐒒]

He’s dir actually and constantly cries about being occupied by isaaqs. He had a failed rap career and a failed marriage with an cadaan woman who left him, he’s been obsessed with PL because his law career failed did to his low IQ, so now he spends all day on twitter talking about PL, in the hopes of getting a job from the FGS. In short he’s a loser.

I stand corrected, let me go edit.

 

[Prime Minister]

It's a stupid article.

Yeah I don't change my mind it's pretty stupid. He could have used far better examples of federalism but you can read the emotional instability in every paragraph.

 

[Farm]

I stand corrected, let me go edit.

He got exposed badly by Isaaqs awhile back, I’m not sure why he still hasn’t deleted his Twitter account

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

He’s dir actually and constantly cries about being occupied by isaaqs. He had a failed rap career and a failed marriage with an cadaan woman who left him, he’s been obsessed with PL because his law career failed due to his low IQ, so now he spends all day on twitter talking about PL, in the hopes of getting a job from the FGS. In short he’s a loser.

It’s usually the stateless people that hate on PL. Had awdal state been a thing and they pulled same moves that PL pull, then he would of been a top supporter trying to get a job lol.

On some level I can sympathize with ppl like them as it sucks living under idôor but they constantly hate that I just say f*ck em lol

 

[Farm]

It’s usually the stateless people that hate on PL. Had awdal state been a thing and they pulled same moves that PL pull, then he would of been a top supporter trying to get a job lol.

On some level I can sympathize with ppl like them as it sucks living under idôor but they constantly hate that I just say f*ck em lol

The guy is such a loser he left Minnesota because he couldn’t get any law jobs due to low GPA and IQ and decided to work for the Sland government until they fired him for being incompetent. Which explains his hate for them.

 

[Louis Vuitton Don]

The guy is such a loser he left Minnesota because he couldn’t get any law jobs due to low GPA and IQ and decided to work for the Sland government until they fired him for being incompetent. Which explains his hate for them.

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[amboli]

It's a stupid article.

Yeah I don't change my mind it's pretty stupid. He could have used far better examples of federalism but you can read the emotional instability in every paragraph.

This part was interesting Does not seem like he's making it up so everyone attack his personal character?

"When you compare how federalism is applied in Ethiopia and Somalia, you will notice that the two federal systems are diametrically different. Since the beginning of Ethiopia’s federalism experiment, its federal government has always been supreme. You will never see the regional presidents of Afar Region, Somali Region, etc., dealing in foreign policy. But in Somalia, you’ll regularly see some regional heads interfering in foreign policy, with Puntland being the main culprit.


Puntland is an anomaly when compared to the other federal member states in Somalia. Puntland is the only federal member state to base its jurisdiction on clan federalism, while all other federal member states base their jurisdiction on provincial federalism. The borders claimed by Puntland are literally based on clan borders, hence its claims over specific districts in Mudug, Sanaag, and Sool. Clan federalism in Puntland is due to their belief in clan supremacy. And if they cannot run the country, they figure ways to derail the political process. Hence their steadfast subversion of Somali sovereignty.


There seems to be a modus operandi for Puntland’s political elite: use foreign enemies against your homeland to achieve clannish political goals. It was they who invited and aligned with the Italian colonialist in the late 1800s; it was they who aligned with Mengistu and invaded Galdogob in 1982; it was they who invited and aligned with Zenawi to invade and occupy Somalia’s national capital in 2006."

 

[Prime Minister]

This part was interesting Does not seem like he's making it up so everyone attack his personal character?

"When you compare how federalism is applied in Ethiopia and Somalia, you will notice that the two federal systems are diametrically different. Since the beginning of Ethiopia’s federalism experiment, its federal government has always been supreme. You will never see the regional presidents of Afar Region, Somali Region, etc., dealing in foreign policy. But in Somalia, you’ll regularly see some regional heads interfering in foreign policy, with Puntland being the main culprit.


Puntland is an anomaly when compared to the other federal member states in Somalia. Puntland is the only federal member state to base its jurisdiction on clan federalism, while all other federal member states base their jurisdiction on provincial federalism. The borders claimed by Puntland are literally based on clan borders, hence its claims over specific districts in Mudug, Sanaag, and Sool. Clan federalism in Puntland is due to their belief in clan supremacy. And if they cannot run the country, they figure ways to derail the political process. Hence their steadfast subversion of Somali sovereignty.


There seems to be a modus operandi for Puntland’s political elite: use foreign enemies against your homeland to achieve clannish political goals. It was they who invited and aligned with the Italian colonialist in the late 1800s; it was they who aligned with Mengistu and invaded Galdogob in 1982; it was they who invited and aligned with Zenawi to invade and occupy Somalia’s national capital in 2006."

It's interesting to anyone with a room temperature IQ but it's irrelevant to federalism.

 

[amboli]

It's interesting to anyone with a room temperature IQ but it's irrelevant to federalism.

But since it is true it's interesting. I didn't know puntland is the only Federal state that uses clan borders for its Federalism. Mother of Clan Federalism

 

[Adaawe]

Highly enlightening article. Very factual imo.

 

[Local]

this guy obsiye is always crying on camera

his famous quote “They put a gun to our face”

 

[Pipit]

this guy obsiye is always crying on camera

his famous quote “They put a gun to our face”

 

[Gibiin-Udug]

this guy obsiye is always crying on camera

his famous quote “They put a gun to our face”

He's a drunkard loser who didn't even pass his BAR test. What a loser, he's been in university since 2003 and still didn't get his degree, lmfao.

 

[amboli]

He wrote an articulate piece I can tell by the reactions