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[Barkhadle1520]

I doubt it since FGS is basically limited to Mogadishu.

Please dont make me search the source again, also thats false theyre not limited to mogadishu, need to remove that 2013 map from your wall

I know what it is, I was making a side point of how the government was managing the economy better as seen from Somalia's first ever budget surplus (civilian government mainly stole funds).

Lol Thats how normal countries work, it shouldnt be something shocking just means the absurdly high corruption rates lowered

No but AY tried to instigate a coup as early as 1978. From that point onwards the government was occupied with fighting off internal elements which stalled development.

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[Zak12]

Where are the independent kacaan funded projects then

Both externally funded

Muh independent funded, get a new script already. FGS can barely develop any infastructure even with billions thrown at it.

GDP per capita in Somalia in 1988

Oh wow a Somalia that is undergoing internal and external turmoil was in a poor state? I am shocked.

And yet it was still richer and more stable than FGS lmaoooo

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Both externally funded the janame road, the berbera-burco road, the juba sugar project, the construction of the university of Mogadishu, afgooye road, port xamar were all foreign projects even the guy you are quoting Lt.khalifa’s source admits the projects werent built by kacaan, but by foreign entities
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Abu Dhabi was also feeding Somalis until 91, its the reason the drought was less worse

This is what happens when you give a country to uncivilized nomads and throw them into the modern world, Nomads didnt even wanna farm during kacaan to feed the people starving from the drought

 

[Zak12]

Thats how normal countries work

Hence why 1960s Somalia and FGS today aren't normal countries. So dysfunctional they couldn't do basic things like that.

I just showed you the source and now you using it against me subxanallah never sharing anything with you people again

Sxb what are you talking about? I never said the rebels started 1977, they wouldn't exist until after that war.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Hence why 1960s Somalia and FGS today aren't normal countries. So dysfunctional they couldn't do basic things like that.

Yk me I never disagreed on that

Sxb what are you talking about? I never said the rebels started 1977, they wouldn't exist until after that war.

Nah I know the conversation goes with you people its always siyad the angel who ran the country perfectly than evil rebels popped outta nowhere and ruined it, lets save us both the trouble and end it here sxb

 

[Zak12]

Nah I know the conversation goes with you people its always siyad the angel

Bruh I don't think we ever had a major conversation about the Kacaan before. He wasn't an angel, I even pointed out before the Kacaan had flaws.

I'm fine if you dislike Barre/Kacaan, at that point we can agree to disagree, its all cool. I'm just waiting for Salah to damage control and pretend FGS did more for Somalia.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Bruh I don't think we ever had a major conversation about the Kacaan before.

Ik but you're darod, you would rather commit seppuku than admit he was a bad leader and the reason were arguing right now

 

[Zak12]

Ik but you're darod, you would rather commit seppuku than admit he was a bad leader and the reason were arguing right now

Dude is bringing up qabil labels right now




Of course I disagree on Barre being a bad leader but I don't want to get into some heated pointless argument.

 

[Saleh]

I'm fine if you dislike Barre/Kacaan, at that point we can agree to disagree, its all cool. I'm just waiting for Salah to damage control and pretend FGS did more for Somalia.

This guy is inventing fake positions on my behalf to cope with his humiliation in this thread nowhere did I mention the FGS this is how I know you didnt read anything I said, your arguments were pre-scripted

 

[Zak12]

This guy is inventing fake positions on my behalf to cope with his humiliation in this thread nowhere did I mention the FGS this is how I know you didnt read anything I said, your arguments were pre-scripted

Humiliation kulaha coming from the guy who got banned from the history section cause he trolled too hard lol.

 

[Saleh]

Abu Dhabi was also feeding Somalis until 91, its the reason the drought was less worse

This is what happens when you give a country to uncivilized nomads and throw them into the modern world, Nomads didnt even wanna farm during kacaan to feed the people starving from the drought

Under afweyn the second capital hargeisa only had 6hrs of electricity a day seriously I dont know how these people try to convince themselves he was a good leader or good for Somalis. I have not even mentioned his countless war crimes in this thread against almost every major clan

 

[reer]

More excuses if Siad Barre was so bad you would have corrected his mistakes and made your country a better place. Instead your like an adult blaming his abusive step father for all his failures in life as an excuse for being a worthless bum

its to deflect blame for 30+ years of failure and treasonous leadership while the youth have extreme buufis or are doing tahriib.

 

[Zak12]

its to deflect blame for 30+ years of failure and treasonous leadership while the youth have extreme buufis or are doing tahriib.

Barre made major mistakes in the 80s that contributed to the collapse of the country. With that said, he croaked in 1995 while warlords continued to chimp out and Abullahi Yusuf further schemed with Ethiopia.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Under afweyn the second capital hargeisa only had 6hrs of electricity a day seriously I dont know how these people try to convince themselves he was a good leader or good for Somalis. I have not even mentioned his countless war crimes in this thread against almost every major clan

See how this guy was quoting Lt Khalifa too lol, they always quote that guy for their kacaan slop even tho hes a known fkder who lies all the time and cherrypicks for his biased content, these people are allergic to real taarikh they cant even consider the possibily that kacaan ever made a mistake, its like hes some kind of god to them subxanallah

We will never get along with these people again and tbh thats fine with me

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Barre made major mistakes in the 80s that contributed to the collapse of the country. With that said, he croaked in 1995 while warlords continued to chimp out and Abullahi Yusuf further schemed with Ethiopia.

Where did you see us defending mooryans or AY ? This is why I have said his mistakes still affect us today but the reason why we dont have a country in 2025 is not because of him, and absolutely no one denies that

 

[Zak12]

Where did you see us defending mooryans or AY ? This is why I have said his mistakes still affect us today but the reason why we dont have a country in 2025 is not because of him, and absolutely no one denies that

Bruh stop the strawmans, I never said you were defending them. You even criticise AY like I do so we are on the same page

 

[Zak12]

even tho hes a known fkder

The guy you are talking to is a fkder btw

 

[Riftvalley]

You guys overpower the usa far too much. With right motives they will be defeated easily.

Lead the way sxb.

 

[Barkhadle1520]

Bruh stop the strawmans, I never said you were defending them. You even criticise AY like I do so we are on the same page

Were not on the same page and we never will be

These conversations are a waste of time, you guys will never change your views on Kacaan because hes darod, you dont give two shits about what he did and how it affected the wider somali people, you dont care about researching his leadership in depth either

Let me just ask you something, what sub of darod are you ?

 

[Barkhadle1520]

The guy you are talking to is a fkder btw

Arent we all