Potential war coming soon in Buulo mareer. HG Vs Biimaal.

#DegDeg:Xiisad Dagaal oo ka Taagan Deegaanka Buula Mareer Iyo Tuulooyin Hoostaga waxaa isku rasaaseeyay walina isku hor fadhiya labo Maleyshiyo beelood oo kasoo kala jeeda beesha Habar Gidir Iyo Beelaha Biimaal waxaana laga Cabsi qabaa in dagaal ka fool ka fool uu ka dhex qarxo hadaan lakal dhexgelin.

Xiisada ayaa salka ku haysa Deegaanada Buula Mareer waxayna soo jirtay muddo badan iyadoo aan wali xal buuxa laga gaarin.
 
We have never fought an offensive war. It’s always defensive. For whatever reason we cause severe blood pressure to our neighbours, I put it down to jealousy

You took North Xamar from Abgaal with the help of Hawiye yaryars, from what I've seen from the civil war era, Abgaal lost the most.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
You took North Xamar from Abgaal with the help of Hawiye yaryars, from what I've seen from the civil war era, Abgaal lost the most.
South* and we only moved to Isaaq/Darood areas. It was a natural population transfer. In fact the Xamar war started at a time when Cali Mahdi said HG should go back to Galgaduud. Hence why Caydiid got support from smaller clans as they were worried the same would happen to them.
 
South* and we only moved to Isaaq/Darood areas. It was a natural population transfer. In fact the Xamar war started at a time when Cali Mahdi said HG should go back to Galgaduud. Hence why Caydiid got support from smaller clans as they were worried the same would happen to them.

HG moved into territory that didn't belong to them, aka 'unaka leh', same thing you're doing to the miskeen Biyomaal today in Merka (why even attack them? They weren't even apart of the Kacaan), either way we need to move the Capital.
 

World

VIP
HG moved into territory that didn't belong to them, aka 'unaka leh', same thing you're doing to the miskeen Biyomaal today in Merka (why even attack them? They weren't even apart of the Kacaan), either way we need to move the Capital.
They are expansionists wanting more land for their clan. They’re doing the same thing to Hawiye like Wacdaan in Lower Shabelle, and soon Murusade will be their next victims.
 

bidenkulaha

GalYare
HG moved into territory that didn't belong to them, aka 'unaka leh', same thing you're doing to the miskeen Biyomaal today in Merka (why even attack them? They weren't even apart of the Kacaan), either way we need to move the Capital.
No. We moved to places where people were leaving, Isaaq sold up in Hodan for example and Darood in xarumaha dowladda so hence why HG are so populated in those areas.

There was no HG ‘expansion’ in Abgaal areas. When 4 month war ended, Abgaal moved back to where they lived. Similarly Murusade. Only Xawaadle after clashing with hg completely left. But I don’t describe this as ‘offensive war’ given we were defending

Also we are not attacking marka, there’s been a peace agreement that’s held for nearly a decade now.
 
We have never fought an offensive war. It’s always defensive.
The one time you fought an offensive war you got evicted from a whole city and your houses businesses and Teknikos xooged. :dead:Completely wiped.


not only that but even afterwards every HG was hunted in
Beledweyne until they fully left.

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No. We moved to places where people were leaving, Isaaq sold up in Hodan for example and Darood in xarumaha dowladda so hence why HG are so populated in those areas.

There was no HG ‘expansion’ in Abgaal areas. When 4 month war ended, Abgaal moved back to where they lived. Similarly Murusade. Only Xawaadle after clashing with hg completely left. But I don’t describe this as ‘offensive war’ given we were defending

Also we are not attacking marka, there’s been a peace agreement that’s held for nearly a decade now.

You moved into land that didn't belong to you, that's an offensive manoeuvre, you can attack all the Darood you want in Xamar under made up pretences, but that doesn't explain why the most deaths in that city came from your very own HAG, followed by minorities, (again, you tortured and killed these groups when they weren't even aligned with the Kacaan).
 

World

VIP
You moved into land that didn't belong to you, that's an offensive manoeuvre, you can attack all the Darood you want in Xamar under made up pretences, but that doesn't explain why the most deaths in that city came from your very own HAG, followed by minorities, (again, you tortured and killed these groups when they weren't even aligned with the Kacaan).
Their goal was to wipe out Abgaal from Xamar which failed and led to a stalemate, civil war and divided city that lasted for 20 years.
 
Their goal was to wipe out Abgaal from Xamar which failed and led to a stalemate, civil war and divided city that lasted for 20 years.

HAG destroyed Somalia, I'll admit there was some wrongs Darood committed via the Kacaan, there were ups and downs for sure, but whatever transpired after HG moved into Xamar has destroyed any goodwill & trust in a National government, and has forever put us in a political deadlock, no wonder SNM packed up their bags and renounced it all, who can blame them?

If we don't move the Capital nothing will change, Baidoa is the better choice.
 
HAG destroyed Somalia, I'll admit there was some wrongs Darood committed via the Kacaan, there were ups and downs for sure, but whatever transpired after HG moved into Xamar has destroyed any goodwill & trust in a National government, and has forever put us in a political deadlock, no wonder SNM packed up their bags and renounced it all, who can blame them?

If we don't move the Capital nothing will change, Baidoa is the better choice.
Stalemate ended 2006. Moving the capital is stupid when you consider Baydhabo is surrounded by Al Shabaab from all sides. They will take over the city under 12 hours. You want to move the capital because of HG but your also forget to realise they controlled it in its entirety before Ethiopia kicked them out in the 90’s.
 

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