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Usually women and children travelled with the men. They made the huts and did the hard work like making butter, hides etc which people traded.
@Hubble Is this your flop of a Feminist rant. Are you an unlucky bitter widow by any chance. Not good way to channel your frustrations i might say.
What Somali men around the world create.
Somali : Tele communication technologies and cash money transfer, Mobile banking.
Somalia is leading when it comes to this technology and is way ahead of other nations as well. Somalia now offers some of the most technologically advanced and competitively priced telecommunications and internet services in the world. Infact these services are extended to many African countries.
For example in Somali populated Places in Europe the main use of Money transfering, mobile banking are done via Somali Companies in these countries were the governments have adopted them for use.
Ingenuity and success in this market area has already attracted big name entrepeneurs by the likes of Bill Gates.
Walaal a form of advice you dont have to try and downplay Somali men to went your garoob frustrations. Our business accumen and entrepeneurial skills are highly valued and praised around the world.
What Somali men around the world create.
Somali : Tele communication technologies and cash money transfer, Mobile banking.
Somalia is leading when it comes to this technology and is way ahead of other nations as well. Somalia now offers some of the most technologically advanced and competitively priced telecommunications and internet services in the world. Infact these services are extended to many African countries.
For example in Somali populated Places in Europe the main use of Money transfering, mobile banking are done via Somali Companies in these countries were the governments have adopted them for use.
Ingenuity and success in this market area has already attracted big name entrepeneurs by the likes of Bill Gates.
Walaal a form of advice you dont have to try and downplay Somali men to went your garoob frustrations. Our business accumen and entrepeneurial skills are highly valued and praised around the world.
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Qabyaalad? Sounds like some chicken disease atheists suffer from (That is when they aren't en about religion oppressing them).
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Yes tribalism is a major cause of the divide we see in Somalia today. Whilst Islam didn't precipitate the civil war, it sure is acting as an obstacle towards recovery.
Let's take a look 500 years ago, when we sold The 'Somali Giraffe' to the Chinese, when we where one of the biggest textile exporters. The city of Mogadishu was so rich and flourishing that it was called 'The White Pearl Of The Indian Ocean', and it was so religious that it was called, 'The City of Islam'. The reason why we are in this calamity today is for good reason, Somalia is being tested, day by day in the 70's we lost our religion, but now Alhamdulilah it's one important factor vital things of our lives. Look at Mogadishu 500 years ago rich(we where strong in our religion), 30 years ago Western and Poor, and now religious again, with packed, unlimited resources under the lands the goats are shitting on. So be grateful, take your Deen seriously and say Alhamdulilah.
The Ajuran Empire are 50 times richer than Somalia today, and all they relied on was agriculture. That tells you something. the Ajuran and its clients were active participants in the East African gold trade, the Silk Road commerce, trade in the Indian Ocean, and commercial enterprise as far as East Asia.
The bank government of Somalia can't even print paper when the Ajuuran Empire had:
The Ajuran Sultanate also minted its own Ajuran currency. Many ancient bronze coins inscribed with the names of Ajuran Sultans have been found in the coastal Benadir province
The Somali Army compared to Ajuuran Empire army.
The Ajuran State had a standing army with which the Garen imams and the governors ruled and protected their subjects. The bulk of the army consisted of mamluke soldiers,[36] who did not have any loyalties to the traditional Somali clan system, thereby making them more reliable.
The terms ''Tribalism'' or ''Qabilyaad'' are foreign constructions. Somali clans are not a cult,mentality or ideology. They are just social units or extended network of families. The function of clan is to be a trust/support group an extended community or networks you can rely upon and to draw capital there from.
The civil war did not happen because Clan A hates Clan B.The underliying factor in the violence has less to do with clan, but more so with conflict between unequal distribution of resources and unequal political participation. Thats why far more emphasis has to be placed on greed, wealth disparity, and its effect on the human condition.
The division has alot to do with the mistrust that came as a result of that.
Clans are a soft spot because every Somali is a member of one, so people find it easier to blame our social structure than to dvelve into the complexeities of Somali problems.
The biggest agent of division i see today are the chronic interference by the International community and the so called ''I am enlightened diaspora'' who are doing more to halt the reconciliation process with their Anti-Islam, Anti-Qabil, Anti-Somali, Pro-Western, Pro-SJW-feminism, sentiment. Trying so hard to break the function and the conformity of the Somali People.
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How is Islam acting as an obstacle towards recovery you buffoon? All the problems that Somalia face today would not have existed had they followed Islam in its entirety. Tribalism, money laundering, miserliness, laziness, drugs, bribery, etc. are all anything but Islamic. Since you're making the claim that Islam is an obstacle, the onus is on you to provide evidence for this claim.
@Hitman With or without islam the issues would still exist. Unless we adress the underlying factors ,put a compatible system in place and think in the lines of reconciliation and culture accamodation the issues will still exist.
Following previous threads ive made.
Elder in Bosaso: ''Our system should be tailor fit for us and our society''
http://www.somalispot.com/threads/e...ld-be-tailor-fit-for-us-and-our-society.6904/
The Law Of The Somalis: Xeer
http://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-law-of-the-somalis-xeer.3979/
The problem is the installment of inadequate systems of governance. What the Somali majority need is to excecize their own self-determination, this what is often denied of us our own agency. Somalis are not allowed to pick their own leaders, find their own solutions to their problems within their own cultural context and design their own systems compatible to their societal structure.
Somalia should be left on her own to carve out a democracy that suits the prevailing conditions of it's society.
Following previous threads ive made.
Elder in Bosaso: ''Our system should be tailor fit for us and our society''
http://www.somalispot.com/threads/e...ld-be-tailor-fit-for-us-and-our-society.6904/
The Law Of The Somalis: Xeer
http://www.somalispot.com/threads/the-law-of-the-somalis-xeer.3979/
The problem is the installment of inadequate systems of governance. What the Somali majority need is to excecize their own self-determination, this what is often denied of us our own agency. Somalis are not allowed to pick their own leaders, find their own solutions to their problems within their own cultural context and design their own systems compatible to their societal structure.
Somalia should be left on her own to carve out a democracy that suits the prevailing conditions of it's society.
Walahi this place has gotten more weirder since i left
I see you've been picking up on some of my lexicon. Islam does remain a bulwark towards recovery. Al-Shabaab's suicide bombings are testament to that. Islam isn't the solution because if we see it being applied properly as you suggest it isn't then what we get are football stadiums being converted into execution grounds. Islam also holds the pernicious view of this life being a way station whereas the gaalo prioritise this life first. This means the gaalo strive to make this life a better place through innovations etc whereas the average Muslim will focus on their "Akhira." At best this mentality limits innovation as those who study scripture are valued over the intelligensia and at worst it leads to the bazaar or suuq being bombed.
Zuleikha
Ha igu daalinee dantaada raac
You are way too young to understand that
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