Origins of Arabs/Arabic according to historians today

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
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The first arabic speaking population group, were located in northern arabia. Yemen, is actually "arabised", they spoke related languages to arabic but not arabic itself.

The myth that arabs originated in yemen is false

In fact, it seems the yemeni poet Abu Nuwas despited it "If a Tamimi [arab] comes and boasts that he is better than you, then say to him ‘enough you lizard muncher! You dare to boast before the scions of kings, you fool…take up your stick and shoo your goats, you whose mother got the runs and shat herself! We ruled the world both east and west while your old chieftan was a droplet in his father’s loins.”

This also makes logical sense considering arabic's relation to hebrew which is located in the levant.

The modern arab identity does remind me a lot of han chinese formation, where related population groups were consolidated and formed a sort of ethnicity or linguistic-identity.
 
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Al Barqawi

Sultan Al Barbaria
Makes a lot of sense tbh
The entire semitic lineage both linguistically, paternally (ie via haplogroups/dna/lineage/bloodline), geographically and culturally was based around a specific proximity around the Sinai/levant region

Theories of southern arabian origin of modern arab identity mostly comes from the widespread expanion of J1-p58 haplogroups across the arabian peninsula and it's supposed origination/spread from yemen due to the region being predominantly J1
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
You are close but it’s probably a little further south in Najd or Hijaz
This is according to dr ahmed al jallad, the map is pulled from his study. There is little proof of it being in najd or hijaz, the map is based on the earliest evidences of arabic speaking populations and their kingdoms like the nabateans
 

Doctorabdi

A nomad with no true place
Isnt this where the script originated rather than the language?
No the language, the earliest archaeology we have the region is what you see on the map itself. That and the relation of arabic to other closely related semitic language, as well as mentioned empires. The earliest etymology of "arab", is also in said region. Everything pretty much points to that specific region.
 
Arabs as people and Arabic as defined linguistically are separate but linked processes.

Arab (people) as a prehistoric genesis is much more complicated, and it seems the definitions changed through continual historico-tribal reconfigurations and state rise and collapse with tribal merging and divergence. And there also seems to be a unison convergence of calling ancestral Arabians Arab when they were indeed related but distinct tribes that led to the medieval Arabs, and those older tribes could have existed from the Nabatean north, all the way to southern Arabia, in a culturally diffusive way. These people were in a civilizational complex stretching across a vast land beyond the Nabatean north. So in truth, the mythology that Arabs have their true roots in southern Arabia could be congruent with this complex picture. Although southern Arabia also had other Semitic groups.

Linguistics is much simpler (can sometimes be complex; e.g., in Sprachbund spaces (Jalal has written that such a thing might have happened in the Arabian past) to understand. The Arabic language itself is from those Nabatean guys, indeed.
 

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