Factz said:
Just more horseshit with no proof. The source:
Africa in the nineteenth century until the 1880s is not a new source and proved Sultan of Zanzibar sought permission from Sultan Ahmed Yusuf to construct a garrison from Mogadishu. It also proves Zanzibar's role on the Benadir coast being merely nominal. The same thing with Cambridge History of Africa proving Geledi Sultanate had more influence on the Benadir coast than Zanzibar Sultanate and regarded their "governors" as customs officers that had no real authority on the coast. Even Virginia Luling alludes to this and this is according to her:
I find it amusing how you're still able to talk with all this evidence in front of you. You said Sultan Ahmed had no control outside of Afgooye but according to
Accounts and Papers of the House of Commons his brother Abubokor Yusuf would collect tributes from Mogadishu, Merca, and Barawa. He would also get involved in their political affairs. In fact, I suggest you learn about Sultan Osman's rule. Please read:
Divine madness: Moḥammed ʻAbdulle Ḥassan (1856-1920). It talks about how Sultan Osman managed to repel Ethiopian forces in Luuq and Dervish forces in Xudur and Bakool regions. Everything you say is hogwash.
Please don't lie about Abdullahi Abdurahman because every claim he has made was referenced and none of them go back to Wikipedia. This only proves you haven't read his book. I also find it strange that you refer to Abdirahman Abdullahi's source as not being reliable when he is in-fact with a reputable peer-reviewed Publisher of African non-fiction/journals.
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Here is what he said about the Benadir coast and goes align with several sources I have shared with you.
Actually, my source is a study that is cited in that book
The Origins and Development of Mogadishu AD 1000 to 1850 Ahmed Dualel Jama. [21]
and which is not a thesis by the way it's a credible peer-reviewed study cited in many books, you can do a google check it here
[22] and it's carried out by an archeological unit for Mombasa Museum in Kenya. It states:
With all the evidence it has collected it has dismissed these Middle East/Swahili origin claims on the Benadir and suggests it was native found with the ancient Somali bones and architecture it managed to find. I suggest you check it out.
You have no excuse as this source has archaeological backing and done repeated studies and investigations on the Benadir coast. I know you're old but that shouldn't give you the excuse to be behind in history because it's been updated.
Lewis, Luling, Casannelli, and Ali Mukhtar's historical claims on false oral traditions have been investigated and discredited by modern historians. They were wrong about the Oromo, Bantu, and Benadir coast myths. I suggest you check out their evidence instead of following older scholars unambiguous claims like a headless sheep.
The Archaeology of Islam in Sub-Saharan Africa states:
The Origins and Development of Mogadishu AD 1000 to 1850 states:
These older scholars also claimed Himyar and Caliphate established a colony on the Benadir coast.
According to the Cambridge History of Africa who have one of the biggest historic documents in Africa investigated these claims and here is what they stated:
and discrediting more of their errors:
I have already gone back and forth with you before discussing what errors they have made and how they have been discredited by modern scholars through archaeological evidence, oral accounts, and ancient text findings. Everything you thought about the south has been wrong. You simply can't spin this and⁶ my advice for you stay updated and accept the evidences.
